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Posted by Lunar Phase 7 on May-16-2009 12:50:

quote:
Originally posted by R.j.
by the way, Ladytron is such an awesome group: destroy everything you touch na na na na plaaaygirl, why are you sleeping in tomorrow's world, hey playgirl


May I also recommend this?


Posted by bananas on May-16-2009 12:56:

i love that song, but the video is somehow scary to me :[[


Posted by Joss Weatherby on May-16-2009 14:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Omega_M
That is what you think. The prisoners may also feel the same thing, but only in the beginning of their incarceration period. As they adjust to the new environment, they no longer mourn the loss of their freedom.

There is a very good lecture on the topic of "happiness" given by a social scientist on TED.com. The guy talks about how human beings adjust themselves to new circumstances, however unpleasant, and become happy again. You may think that prisoners or people with disabilities remain unhappy for life. But surprisingly that's not the case at all. Nor on the flip side, does a person who's won a multi- million dollar lottery remains happy for ever. I couldn't find that video, but I did find a paper that says the same thing.

HAPPINESS AND PUNISHMENT

http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers....ract_id=1241008



The undesirable effects of incarceration are besides the point ofcourse, if we are strictly concerned with the effects of loss of freedom.



And death is any less of a punishment? That argument needs a whole other thread... Death to me is far more desirable than not being able to see my friends and family or live any sort of normal life again. I'd wish for death in that circumstance.

Who cares if they adapt to it, they have adapted to a hellish life and they are never going to be part of society again.


Posted by Omega_M on May-16-2009 16:58:

quote:
Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
Death to me is far more desirable than not being able to see my friends and family or live any sort of normal life again. I'd wish for death in that circumstance.

Who cares if they adapt to it, they have adapted to a hellish life and they are never going to be part of society again.


Why would you want to die when you can "manufacture" happiness in whatever circumstances you find yourself in ? Once in jail when seeing their family is not an option, people don't fret over it and remain unhappy forever. Their brain manufactures its own "synthetic happiness" under these circumstances and they are truly just as happy as you think you are, when you meet your family. That's better than dying and having nothing left to ever feel any happiness at all, "synthetic" or "natural". You don't have to believe me. Watch this Harvard Psychologist's fascinating account of what makes us happy.

http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/...e_we_happy.html


Posted by elFreak on May-16-2009 17:02:

if the only evidence available to convict is eye witness testimony, the death penalty should not be able to be applied. Time and time again eye witness accounts are proven to be unreliable at best, and many scientific studies have shown this as well.


Posted by pkcRAISTLIN on May-16-2009 17:19:

quote:
Originally posted by Slylee
yea well there are just as many guilty pieces of shit who get off every day too because of loopholes in the system. the system is fucked and abused/manipulated on a daily basis. it's just wrong. everything needs to be re-written to reflect modern society.


people that know how to fix society's ills don't sit round in their pyjamas all day.


Posted by RickyM on May-16-2009 17:32:

quote:
Originally posted by Slylee
yea well there are just as many guilty pieces of shit who get off every day too because of loopholes in the system. the system is fucked and abused/manipulated on a daily basis. it's just wrong. everything needs to be re-written to reflect modern society.


So your solution to the problem is taking people out the back and shooting them?


Posted by Slylee on May-16-2009 20:19:

quote:
Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN
people that know how to fix society's ills don't sit round in their pyjamas all day.


lol yea i know. did i say that they did?


Posted by Slylee on May-16-2009 20:19:

quote:
Originally posted by RickyM
So your solution to the problem is taking people out the back and shooting them?


which people?


Posted by Sunsnail on May-16-2009 20:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Slylee
which people?


why, the bad people of course!


Posted by Slylee on May-16-2009 20:22:

quote:
Originally posted by Sunsnail
why, the bad people of course!


oh ok you mean repeat offenders, murderers/rapists/child mollesters? yea. shoot them out back and move on.


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