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Originally posted by Skipper lol, what? The market should cater to people who want shit for free? I hate to burst your little bubble but that's not how things operate.

ITS NOT FREE!!! Just like how we pay for the "free" air conditioning in the price of the food. etc etc.

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Originally posted by Jayx1 ITS NOT FREE!!! Just like how we pay for the "free" air conditioning in the price of the food. etc etc.

Dude, YOU'RE THE ONE WHO SAID THEY ARE FREE BAGS

Read your post above.

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Originally posted by malek if that's a small amount, then why don't they foot the bill for every bag they give out, a few pennies goes to some green-charity? And give incentives to their customers to switch to permanent bags?

i like the old way where you could opt to add a few cents to your grocery bill for a selected charity. Ahhhh the days of choice and option... i miss those.

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Originally posted by Skipper Dude, YOU'RE THE ONE WHO SAID THEY ARE FREE BAGS Read your post above.

they gave them out free but they were paid for within the cost of the food... now they charge twice.

Was there a plastic bag fairy that came down to each store, and dropped off tones of magic/free bags?

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Originally posted by Jayx1 they gave them out free but they were paid for within the cost of the food... now they charge twice.

But aren't you glad you have the choice of not paying the additional 5 cents?

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Originally posted by jennypie Moron. You can buy plain white bags for the garbage at Canadian Tire, Walmart...and I would also imagine hardware stores and the like.

and they cost a lot more than 5 cents, so he really has no argument here.

I think you were bang on in the other thread...he's just a complaining vagina.

@ Canadian Tire

5.99/52= 12cents a bag

i work in the front end of a large grocery store and i can tell you there has definitely been a significant reduction in the usage of plastic bags.

Here is what I've noticed,

When Plastic bags were offered for free:

- customers purchasing few items still took a bag
- customers purchasing few items requested multiple bags
- customers demanded their items be "double bagged"
- customers asked for extra bags, (garbage or whatever use)
- often items that too big for bags were still requested to make it fit
- customers sometimes requested boxes as an alternative.
- few individuals brought re-usuable bags

In the past couple years tho the major chains have slowly introduced reusable bags as alternatives and have offered them at relatively cheap prices. Think $1.00 a bag, - an extended 2for1 introductory sale - and a garentee the bag will be replaced if it wears out. The reusable bags are usually a lot bigger and stronger, so if you were spending $200 on groceries that would use 15 plastic bags, it would only require 5-6 reusable ones. So really, what do you have against them?

Apparently enough people were not convinced or motivated quick enough to switch over to reusable bags even with these marketing tactics, i think thats argument enough to say some form of intervention had to take place to speed up the process of removing plastic bags

Now that we have started charging, all those rediculus trends of excessive bag usage have declined. And the quality of the plastic bags that are being used as well as the size have increased as well.

I mean really.... they are only one of many ways you can take your items home, ive seen people package their groceries in reusable bags made of various materials, knapsacks, baby strollers, large plastic containers (like boxes), boxes, take the cart, etc. i think its pretty short sighted to believe using plastic bags in massive quantities is necessary

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Originally posted by Skipper Well then, the price just went up. that happens with stuff sometimes.

If the price goes up on account of supply and demand, that's one thing; if it goes up because of an arbitrary penalty imposed by the government, that's quite another. I'm surprised that you of all people would treat these two concepts as one and the same.

Yet another example of government interference misrepresented or just misunderstood by the liberal bag-holders.

I think grocery stores should charge for bags. I just don't think that the government should get any of it, not beyond normal sales taxes anyway.

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Originally posted by Jayx1 they gave them out free but they were paid for within the cost of the food... now they charge twice.

How do you know that prices on items haven't been reduced now to reflect this change? I would think that stores would use this opportunity to lower their prices and make them more competetive.

I knew this was a Jayx1 thread the moment I saw the title. Doesn't matter what civic issue it is--dude is always opposed.

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Originally posted by basilisk I knew this was a Jayx1 thread the moment I saw the title. Doesn't matter what civic issue it is--dude is always opposed.

I am for lower taxes, easier commutes, freedom of choice and less government interference.

All worthy civic issues

I am opposed to most everything that champagne socialists come up with that is supposed to improve (burdan) our lives. Unfortunately right now it is those people who are in power.

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Originally posted by mute79 How do you know that prices on items haven't been reduced now to reflect this change? I would think that stores would use this opportunity to lower their prices and make them more competetive.

You havnt been to a supermarket lately have u?

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Originally posted by Flec i work in the front end of a large grocery store and i can tell you there has definitely been a significant reduction in the usage of plastic bags. Here is what I've noticed, When Plastic bags were offered for free: - customers purchasing few items still took a bag - customers purchasing few items requested multiple bags - customers demanded their items be "double bagged" - customers asked for extra bags, (garbage or whatever use) - often items that too big for bags were still requested to make it fit - customers sometimes requested boxes as an alternative. - few individuals brought re-usuable bags In the past couple years tho the major chains have slowly introduced reusable bags as alternatives and have offered them at relatively cheap prices. Think $1.00 a bag, - an extended 2for1 introductory sale - and a garentee the bag will be replaced if it wears out. The reusable bags are usually a lot bigger and stronger, so if you were spending $200 on groceries that would use 15 plastic bags, it would only require 5-6 reusable ones. So really, what do you have against them? Apparently enough people were not convinced or motivated quick enough to switch over to reusable bags even with these marketing tactics, i think thats argument enough to say some form of intervention had to take place to speed up the process of removing plastic bags Now that we have started charging, all those rediculus trends of excessive bag usage have declined. And the quality of the plastic bags that are being used as well as the size have increased as well. I mean really.... they are only one of many ways you can take your items home, ive seen people package their groceries in reusable bags made of various materials, knapsacks, baby strollers, large plastic containers (like boxes), boxes, take the cart, etc. i think its pretty short sighted to believe using plastic bags in massive quantities is necessary

Great, so let the supermarket decide so that the public can reward or punish them for this decision. Government intervention takes away the choice that society should be making for themselves regardless of some CEOs ideology.

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Originally posted by Jayx1 You havnt been to a supermarket lately have u?

Just showing you how absurd your argument is..

I have reusable bags. each one holds as much as 3-4 plastic pags. they also have straps so that i can carry them on my shoulder, which is lot more comfortable then awkwardly carrying handfuls of bags.

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Originally posted by Jayx1 Great, so let the supermarket decide so that the public can reward or punish them for this decision. Government intervention takes away the choice that society should be making for themselves regardless of some CEOs ideology.

you cry wolf on so much stupid shit that one day you will have a really relevant point... and people are gonna look right past it and say "gee, this is the guy who bitches about the 5 cent bags and cannot make a paragraph without using the words "socialist" or "liberal" in it... what's his agenda?"

learn to pick your battles.

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Originally posted by FunkyCrew um it's NOT because it's $0.05 now, but it's because they are "covering" it up as a green move

If you try hard enough you'll notice that this isn't limited to just plastic bags.

It's only 5c a bag and the cost has potential environmental benefits Stop crying like this is some "corporate conspiracy" just trying to screw the little man, cause it's so far from it.

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Originally posted by Jayx1 You havnt been to a supermarket lately have u?

lol nail on the head
food prices have been increasing if anything

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Originally posted by jennypie I'm not arguing. I'm simply showing my disdain towards you through the use of insults and name calling. It isn't rocket science, fucking idiot. Maybe if your head wasn't padded with such a corpulent layer of adipose tissue, something so simple would make sense to you.

Somebody was paying attn in anatomy class...


And it's argumenting btw...

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Originally posted by DigiNut If the price goes up on account of supply and demand, that's one thing; if it goes up because of an arbitrary penalty imposed by the government, that's quite another. I'm surprised that you of all people would treat these two concepts as one and the same. Yet another example of government interference misrepresented or just misunderstood by the liberal bag-holders. I think grocery stores should charge for bags. I just don't think that the government should get any of it, not beyond normal sales taxes anyway.

He may be a twaat but I agree with every point in this post.....

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Originally posted by infinity HiGH If you try hard enough you'll notice that this isn't limited to just plastic bags. It's only 5c a bag and the cost has potential environmental benefits Stop crying like this is some "corporate conspiracy" just trying to screw the little man, cause it's so far from it.

dude honestly, wake up and start thinking clearly
1 - people are still using plastic bags, but now they are just forced to pay for them (not everyone carries the bulky re-usable bags with them every time they shop)
2 - now every store is "coveniently" offering their own brand of re-usable bags
(1 and 2 are just plain revenue makers for the stores)
3 - what mythical "potential environmental benefits" exactly are we talking about? real environmental benefits would be to offer recyclable paper groccery bags to customers (i.e. like LCBO always did), instead of charging 5 cents for plastic bags - instead, everyone is suddenly so freaking GREEN cos they are charging us for the use of something that we technically pay for anyway, when we buy their products

The environment is now being used as a cash grab. Just wait until the "smart" hydro meters take effect.

The "smart" is how smart the green scheme is. The green being your money of course.

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Originally posted by daves you cry wolf on so much stupid shit that one day you will have a really relevant point... and people are gonna look right past it and say "gee, this is the guy who bitches about the 5 cent bags and cannot make a paragraph without using the words "socialist" or "liberal" in it... what's his agenda?" learn to pick your battles.

again, its not the nickle so much as the point. Also this will lead to even more stupid BS as what has happened with other bans and laws that start out "insignificant" and then snowball out of control. Just look at smoking, pitbulls, and just about anything else spouting out of politicians mouths these days. As i said, water bottles, fast food containers, coffee cups etc are already on the radar. So where does it end? Are we destined to carry around bags, tupperware and cups everywhere we go or go hungry/thirsty? Of course not, which is why we will pay pay pay and they know it!

The day socialists and liberals stop acting like fools or are voted out of office you wont hear much of those words from me. Unfortunately it seems 99% of the time its those morons that are perpetrating this nonsense.

If Liberals in Canada were actually liberal, Id vote for them

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