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Posted by chimera66 on Jun-21-2009 23:44:

quote:
Originally posted by yankeeBaby
I dont know whats going on with "trance" nowadays, but its just not the same.....not even close. I havent been to an "epic" party since 2006-7 MAYBE. maybe even before. fun, yes, epic, no.

hopefully someone will come along and sweep us off our feet like we used to Have faith!! <3 <3


one epic night this year and it was a house party. steve angello's set at pacha in april was by far the best set i've heard in 2009.

crossing my fingers for parties in the fall!


Posted by jmauro on Jun-21-2009 23:49:

this deserves another thread, lol.


Posted by Excess on Jun-22-2009 00:18:

holy christ those videos make ME want to cry, and i wasnt even there.

the fact of the matter is the more experienced of the crowd are always going to compare and say "back then" was always better - but damn. those videos make me want to experience that night.

still, i bet if you dug up a review for that night there'd still be critics saying the same thing they do now... and i dont think it's the DJ's fault. i think it's just not as fresh to most of you guys as it was then. i know for me, mccarren park last year (my first trance event) was AMAZING. and im positive some of you will disagree


Posted by GTS3gEclipse on Jun-22-2009 00:24:

quote:
Originally posted by yankeeBaby
^^epic freaking night~!!!!! is that your vidoe, andrew??


It was, i'm uploading my vids from that night on youtube now cuz i never got around to it back then. I was pissed when i ran out of memory during silence, but i got most of it, right up to when armin shed some tears:


And here's Shivers with the Yankee hat:


And finally Lift while playing with the lasers:




PS this thread has officially been hijacked.


Posted by hellosam on Jun-22-2009 01:25:

Re: [Review] ATB & Victor Dinaire

quote:
Originally posted by Burak14
i gotta be up in few hours for work but i feel like i really have to post this... victor is a fucking beastttttttttttt....no, i'm not saying this because he is one of us but the guy seriously kicked some ass... i have never seen pacha that packed 5 in the morning on a trance night his last track of his opening set was tell me from isos6...so sickkkkkkkkkkkkk and if i remember correctly, he played both remixes of run and hide

atb is a dickkkkkkk.... whats with him and hisnot letting anyone get 5 feet close to him? i requested "swept away" and he gave me that "meh" face



Im so happy someone else has said this. He knows that we follow him everywhere...post on his site- SHARE INFO of HIS sucess FOR HIM bc no one really updates his shit.,....help promo his shit and happen to KNOW his manager (the poor guy is constantly trying to make excuses for andre having ZERO care and love for his fans). ATB has made note that I go all over to see him yet consistantly doesnt have the time to take a simple pic with me...hell wave of course, as he is walking out of the building.


Andre is actually a jerk. I hate to say it- but I have said it before and Ill scream it from the roof tops- I see no reason to support someone like that. Not when there are FUCKING FABULOUS DJs/producers like Markus Schulz, and the huge list of wonderful NYC people here who all go out of their way to not only adore us but be real and even be our friends.


its sad. he could be better, and do better. hes his own worst enemy, imo


Posted by hellosam on Jun-22-2009 01:31:

quote:
Originally posted by yankeeBaby
I dont think thats funny at all. I understand that DJ's get hounded every night and it gets old, but at least show some respect and kindness to the people who are paying your bills.



Markus Schulz is all over the world all fucking year long making records well beyond ATB.....and he goes OUT OF HIS WAY to FIND US IN THE CROWD and send US UP TO HIS VIP because weve been his fans and support him


'nough said!!!!!!!!!!!!!


atb needs to really sit back and ask himself what he loves most- MUSIC....or MONEY


bc he has a weird way of showing his fans any sort of gratitude


btw EDT: i have to add....although im kind of happy to hear my predictions were right...IM still sad I missed this- wouldve been cool to see everyone its been too long.


theres GOT to be a way to get MADE to understand ATB someplace else would be worth it!!


AND>...BTW....i heard he didnt even really play ATB tracks? True?


Posted by Stunade on Jun-22-2009 02:40:

Party Hat

Well, I heard 3 Tiesto tracks...

ATB cannot mix very well live. I heard lots of shoddy and abrupt transitions. The tracklisting was boring. Wasn't feeling him at all...

Victor, you were the complete opposite. Great mixing and bangin' songs.

Pacha security and lists SUCK BALLS! Good thing I was free. Thanks for all my birthday wishes.


Posted by jmauro on Jun-22-2009 03:13:

quote:
Originally posted by euphoria
Wrong..there IS a Pacha in Munich

http://www.pacha-muenchen.de/


Thank you soo much Euphoria!


Posted by Burak14 on Jun-22-2009 05:30:

does anybody know exactly why pacha doesn't have lasers anymore? its too dark in there sometimes


Posted by jovjo003 on Jun-22-2009 05:44:

Im soooooo glad I didn't go to this. My instinct told me at the very last minute to not go. It would have been a bad experience first time clubbing in NYC.


Posted by ArminD1981 on Jun-22-2009 08:23:

quote:
Originally posted by GTS3gEclipse
Cuz 2009 looks like a gay.

And i have to agree with G, don't ever compare Tiesto to Armin @ TW.





2009 is definitely gay

TW was Epic but Tiesto did his thing @ Roseland for NYE , last 4 hours of his set


Posted by ArminD1981 on Jun-22-2009 08:36:

quote:
Originally posted by yankeeBaby
totally agree with everything you said!! you got the years on point!

oakie: 1998-2001
Tiesto: 1999-2003/4
Armin: 2003-2006

^^amazing years for each DJ, and each have fallen off a bit since....






Great years indeed

Ferry is the most consistent dj of all in my opinion. Ferry hardly or never dissapoints even when he plays his gay productions like FIRE and BEAUTIFUL which i love sooo much lol


Roxy nights were insane but TIESTO @ Exit back in 2002 was UNfuckingReal


and did I mention Armin @ Spirit ???


Posted by jmauro on Jun-22-2009 12:09:

quote:
Originally posted by Burak14
does anybody know exactly why pacha doesn't have lasers anymore? its too dark in there sometimes


^^

can anyone explain this? I was looking for the lasers on Friday and couldnt find them, I have always seen lasers in previous videos.


Posted by Scoops on Jun-22-2009 12:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Burak14
does anybody know exactly why pacha doesn't have lasers anymore? its too dark in there sometimes


Some kuntt called the board of health and complained saying it was detrimental to her eyes


Posted by euphoria on Jun-22-2009 12:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Scoops
Some kuntt called the board of health and complained saying it was detrimental to her eyes


Are you serious? Tell that bitch to put on some sunglasses and suck it up!

quote:
Originally posted by jovjo003
Im soooooo glad I didn't go to this. My instinct told me at the very last minute to not go. It would have been a bad experience first time clubbing in NYC.


If there is one thing I've learned when it comes to selecting parties.. always go with your gut instinct.

quote:
Originally posted by hellosam
Im so happy someone else has said this. He knows that we follow him everywhere...post on his site- SHARE INFO of HIS sucess FOR HIM bc no one really updates his shit.,....help promo his shit and happen to KNOW his manager (the poor guy is constantly trying to make excuses for andre having ZERO care and love for his fans). ATB has made note that I go all over to see him yet consistantly doesnt have the time to take a simple pic with me...hell wave of course, as he is walking out of the building.


Andre is actually a jerk. I hate to say it- but I have said it before and Ill scream it from the roof tops- I see no reason to support someone like that. Not when there are FUCKING FABULOUS DJs/producers like Markus Schulz, and the huge list of wonderful NYC people here who all go out of their way to not only adore us but be real and even be our friends.


its sad. he could be better, and do better. hes his own worst enemy, imo


He doesn't deserve you...


Posted by Scoops on Jun-22-2009 12:45:

quote:
Originally posted by euphoria
Are you serious? Tell that bitch to put on some sunglasses and suck it up!



yea...she did it the night of a Boris Party


Posted by yankeeBaby on Jun-22-2009 14:49:

quote:
Originally posted by euphoria

If there is one thing I've learned when it comes to selecting parties.. always go with your gut instinct.




ugh I have to agree. Thankfully, got into VIP, but visiting friends didnt have access and I didnt wanna ditch them, so I stayed downstairs in the pit of hell the whole night (until I couldnt take it anymore!)



btw my complaint of the night: rude f*cking b*tch who says she works for Pacha is pushing and PLOWING through people (we were at the back bar, so there was actually plenty of space for a path if she had simply walked one foot to the left....).
I said "cant you go behind everyone, there is a ton of space behind us....." Then she starts bugging out saying "I work for Pacha you f*cking b*tches, I can go wherever the f*ck I want...." and then proceeds to HURL insults and choice four-letter-words at everyone in her way. Now, its not like she was working or carrying a box of booze or something major...she was leading a group of her girlfriends around by the hand..... partying!

what.the.fuck. Pure class by pacha employees, especially to someone who is a regular customer and spends a LOT of money there, including most nights in VIP.


Posted by jmauro on Jun-22-2009 15:06:

quote:
Originally posted by yankeeBaby
ugh I have to agree. Thankfully, got into VIP, but visiting friends didnt have access and I didnt wanna ditch them, so I stayed downstairs in the pit of hell the whole night (until I couldnt take it anymore!)



btw my complaint of the night: rude f*cking b*tch who says she works for Pacha is pushing and PLOWING through people (we were at the back bar, so there was actually plenty of space for a path if she had simply walked one foot to the left....).
I said "cant you go behind everyone, there is a ton of space behind us....." Then she starts bugging out saying "I work for Pacha you f*cking b*tches, I can go wherever the f*ck I want...." and then proceeds to HURL insults and choice four-letter-words at everyone in her way. Now, its not like she was working or carrying a box of booze or something major...she was leading a group of her girlfriends around by the hand..... partying!

what.the.fuck. Pure class by pacha employees, especially to someone who is a regular customer and spends a LOT of money there, including most nights in VIP.



thats the reason I hate Pacha and I strongly encourage Made Event and any other Event organizer to avoid doing events at Pacha. From the moment you step into Pacha all the employees and bouncers treat customers like shit. I dont think they realize they cant survive without customers, yet, I just hope more people would realize this.


Posted by hellosam on Jun-22-2009 15:08:

quote:
Originally posted by yankeeBaby
ugh I have to agree. Thankfully, got into VIP, but visiting friends didnt have access and I didnt wanna ditch them, so I stayed downstairs in the pit of hell the whole night (until I couldnt take it anymore!)



btw my complaint of the night: rude f*cking b*tch who says she works for Pacha is pushing and PLOWING through people (we were at the back bar, so there was actually plenty of space for a path if she had simply walked one foot to the left....).
I said "cant you go behind everyone, there is a ton of space behind us....." Then she starts bugging out saying "I work for Pacha you f*cking b*tches, I can go wherever the f*ck I want...." and then proceeds to HURL insults and choice four-letter-words at everyone in her way. Now, its not like she was working or carrying a box of booze or something major...she was leading a group of her girlfriends around by the hand..... partying!

what.the.fuck. Pure class by pacha employees, especially to someone who is a regular customer and spends a LOT of money there, including most nights in VIP.


omgosh kelly that sucks!!! Im so sorry to hear that!! When we went to benassi we were treated like that too...and the nice ones were so fucked up i thought theyd chip a tooth from clentching.

the service has definitely gone SO FAR downhill!

you should say something!! I plan on it too- i wish i had earlier but now hearing that you are getting treated badly too! UGH! youre right, people in VIP are there paying good money they should be treated well. In addition, people who are there often should NEVER be even given a bad glance! have they forgotten what VIP stands for?? im lost here


Posted by yankeeBaby on Jun-22-2009 15:17:

quote:
Originally posted by jmauro
thats the reason I hate Pacha and I strongly encourage Made Event and any other Event organizer to avoid doing events at Pacha. From the moment you step into Pacha all the employees and bouncers treat customers like shit. I dont think they realize they cant survive without customers, yet, I just hope more people would realize this.

I've actually had great service from the Made bouncers and VIP....but this girl literally bugged the f*ck out. BUT:

1) why do you need to place your hands on people and continuously plow through people, spilling their expensive drinks..... when there is clearly a 3-foot-wide path on the other side of them. I was standing flush against the bar, getting my drink, and she was trying to push THROUGH the patrons leaning against the bar, rather than go behind us, where there was plenty of room. How does that make sense? It seems like she was just using her "employee status" to prove how she could do what she wanted.

2) why are you bugging the f*ck out? the statement I made was clearly rational, made sense, and would cause a lot less drama/drink spillage/arguing......And to hurl insulting statements, scream at the top of your lungs, and proclaim that you "deserve" the right to piss anyone and everyone off because you work at Pacha? WHO THE F*CK are YOU???? Dont talk to me and the people around you like that. If it wasnt my frist drink, the fact that I had people come from out of town, and the fact that I didnt wanna waste my entrance fee on 30 minutes in a club..... I would have snapped her like a twig.


Posted by jmauro on Jun-22-2009 15:18:

quote:
Originally posted by hellosam
omgosh kelly that sucks!!! Im so sorry to hear that!! When we went to benassi we were treated like that too...and the nice ones were so fucked up i thought theyd chip a tooth from clentching.

the service has definitely gone SO FAR downhill!

you should say something!! I plan on it too- i wish i had earlier but now hearing that you are getting treated badly too! UGH! youre right, people in VIP are there paying good money they should be treated well. In addition, people who are there often should NEVER be even given a bad glance! have they forgotten what VIP stands for?? im lost here


+1

If anything, I dont think people in VIP should be treated like this at all. Since when is being in VIP the same as being in General Admission. Events will still happen at Pacha, Im just hoping they get their act together before they start pissing off everyone in the city.
And even people in General Admission deserve respect. Even when you call their number you get terrible service.


As I said, Pacha has the worst service from the beginning you go in the door.


Posted by Scoops on Jun-22-2009 15:18:

Pacha representives read and post on this board every so often...

i have yet to hear any explanation from either of em for the terrible service


Posted by yankeeBaby on Jun-22-2009 15:23:

quote:
Originally posted by hellosam
omgosh kelly that sucks!!! Im so sorry to hear that!! When we went to benassi we were treated like that too...and the nice ones were so fucked up i thought theyd chip a tooth from clentching.

the service has definitely gone SO FAR downhill!

you should say something!! I plan on it too- i wish i had earlier but now hearing that you are getting treated badly too! UGH! youre right, people in VIP are there paying good money they should be treated well. In addition, people who are there often should NEVER be even given a bad glance! have they forgotten what VIP stands for?? im lost here


agreed! I wasnt even IN VIP at the time....but lets be serious here. I dont think I have been in Pacha for two years (until ATB) without getting a table and spending money.

But thats besides the point. Even the people spending $33 via ticketmaster dont deserve half the treatment they get. It PAINED me to keep my mouth shut, because I was already pissed off at the crowd, the heat, the f*cking taxi cab driver that I had to curse out, and the other incidents that lead me to be pissed off that night. when Im happy I usally laugh at the people who act like idiots, but when Im pissed off, I am likely to SNAP.


Posted by hellosam on Jun-22-2009 15:32:

quote:
Originally posted by yankeeBaby
agreed! I wasnt even IN VIP at the time....but lets be serious here. I dont think I have been in Pacha for two years (until ATB) without getting a table and spending money.

But thats besides the point. Even the people spending $33 via ticketmaster dont deserve half the treatment they get. It PAINED me to keep my mouth shut, because I was already pissed off at the crowd, the heat, the f*cking taxi cab driver that I had to curse out, and the other incidents that lead me to be pissed off that night. when Im happy I usally laugh at the people who act like idiots, but when Im pissed off, I am likely to SNAP.



Everyone should be treated well. Period. Ive been to REAL clubs now ::ehem:: and it amazes me. The ONLY difference between VIP and the floor?

Table, Bottle, personal bartender...people literally kissing your ass to the point you feel embarassed.


there should never be a point in time where you think: she was a bitch! or Does that person actually work here?


its just good business.


I hope someone from Pacha reads it. But I plan on contacting a few people myself. Not that itll necisarrily matter but until we start telling someone and going out of our way to let them know, well never know if they actually care


One thing I DO KNOW...they hired a couple- i think a lot- of new waitresses for VIP and they had come to me asking me how it was working out. they actually wanted my opinion on it. NOW, this was before one of the new girls got all fucked up and started begging me for extasy (which i dont have access to, so why they picked me to ask i still have no idea!) ....this they will now know about. Gives me a glimmer of hope that maybe if we all tell them when we have these bad experiences- maybe they will try to do something.


Posted by jmauro on Jun-22-2009 15:38:

quote:
Originally posted by yankeeBaby
I've actually had great service from the Made bouncers and VIP....but this girl literally bugged the f*ck out.


I agree, you can tell who the people that work for Made are because they are nice and they know how to do things.

Pacha Security and Employees on the other hand
You guys really need to get your act together.

When I said VIP, I was referring to that one time on another thread that someone mentioned that one time in VIP a girl that works for Pacha was asking people/customers for her fix of E while serving people. its on another thread but I cant find it right now.

Ive been three times to Pacha one time last summer, during winter and now. Its only gets worse every time I come.


Edit: hellosam just wrote about the girls in vip above


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