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Posted by iammesol on Aug-02-2009 17:17:






Also, man BJ is going down if KenFlo acts like this Saturday.


Posted by Inertia on Aug-03-2009 16:58:






Posted by lenazi on Aug-03-2009 17:16:

fuck fedor then.

dana said it right when he said you can't be the best unless you want to fight the best.


Posted by iammesol on Aug-03-2009 18:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Inertia






HOLY SHIT



quote:
Originally posted by lenazi
fuck fedor then.

dana said it right when he said you can't be the best unless you want to fight the best.












Btw, Fedor signed with Strikeforce. Epic fucking fail.


Posted by Nerologic on Aug-03-2009 18:57:

I predict Fedor signing with UFC eventually.

That fight card is bound to happen, I hope soon though...


Posted by Pete K on Aug-03-2009 19:08:

Strikeforce signs Fedor Emelianenko to multi-fight deal, M-1 to co-promote

http://mmajunkie.com/news/15713/bre...-co-promote.mma



What a joke.. I wonder how much money they gave up for the co-promotion?



There is no talent in Strikeforce�s heavy weight division. You have the champ and who else?



What it boils down to is Fedor and M-1 trying to use his name to launch a successful promotion company after Fedor retires. UFC was right not to let them co-promote.


Posted by lenazi on Aug-03-2009 19:14:

either way, the heavyweight division (at least to me) in any promotion is by far the most boring one, with 1 dimensional/lame fights.

the same can be said for boxing.


Posted by amp3 on Aug-03-2009 19:17:

Well I am looking forward to seeing Fedor vs Overeem, and I like Brett Roger's too, but I need to see him get one more legit win in before Fedor. After that, I don't really see much more for Fedor in Strikeforce.


Posted by Inertia on Aug-03-2009 21:06:

meh, the multi million dollar deal was never really confirmed by Dana or the UFC.

M-1 declared it false.

so... who knows exactly what the UFC was offering.


Posted by wotyzoid on Aug-03-2009 21:56:

Fedor's contract with M-1 is only valid for three more fights and it seems that he's very loyal to his contracts, that might be the only reason why it isn't going down now. I think there is the possibility that Dana is gonna step up with a new offer after all this stuff clears up.


Posted by squirrelly on Aug-03-2009 22:05:

If Brock was a coach on the Ultimate Fighter, I woudldn't watch that season. End of story. I fucking hate that guy.

//edit

or more likely, I'd fast forward through everything that douche said


Posted by Renzo on Aug-03-2009 22:09:

Fedor is a stand-up guy and his humility is important to this sport. It's a sad day in MMA when arguably the best fighter in the world is not fighting here because of contractual disputes.


Posted by wotyzoid on Aug-03-2009 22:14:

Dana White is douche for throwing it all on Fedor IMO when he knows he has a contract to follow and M-1 is making all the decisions. I also hope to see him knock Lesnar out and I'm thinking it will happen as soon as these 3 fights are done.


Posted by iammesol on Aug-03-2009 22:16:

quote:
Originally posted by Renzo
Fedor is a stand-up guy and his humility is important to this sport. It's a sad day in MMA when arguably the best fighter in the world is not fighting here because of contractual disputes.



Agreed.


Posted by Spam on Aug-03-2009 23:04:

quote:
Originally posted by wotyzoid
Dana White is douche for throwing it all on Fedor IMO when he knows he has a contract to follow and M-1 is making all the decisions. I also hope to see him knock Lesnar out and I'm thinking it will happen as soon as these 3 fights are done.


Well he'd better knock him out. Because if Brock wraps his arms around him before getting knocked unconcious, that fight's going to the ground, and then Fedor will look the same as everyone else who's fought Lesnar.

Hopelessly outsized, taking huge fists to the face.

Whether Brock 'deserves' his title or not. He's lost one fight due to inexperience and, lets face it, pure unadulterated luck. He had a tough match against Couture (I say if that fight went one more round, Lesnar was losing), and has otherwise dominated his opponents.

His wrestling skills are a huge asset, to go along with his giant frame, that's only complimented by his incredible speed for a guy his size.

If he fights Fedor, I'm not convinced it'll be the Ass-kicking so many Lensar haters think it'll be. It will rely entirely on whether or not Lesnar can take a punch, and whether or not Fedor can land a few good ones before Lesnar's lying on top of him punching his arm through his forehead.


Posted by lenazi on Aug-03-2009 23:05:

it seems to me that lesnar got tapped his first fight when he took it to the ground


Posted by Spam on Aug-03-2009 23:09:

quote:
Originally posted by lenazi
it seems to me that lesnar got tapped his first fight when he took it to the ground
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Have you actually watched that fight? Brock was STANDING, Mir was on his knees (in the middle of having his ass handed to him) and blindly dove for Lesnar's leg. It was a rookie mistake by Brock, and and a lucky dive by Mir.

That's not the type of thing that'll happen twice.


Posted by Arbiter on Aug-04-2009 00:56:

quote:
Originally posted by Spam
Well he'd better knock him out. Because if Brock wraps his arms around him before getting knocked unconcious, that fight's going to the ground, and then Fedor will look the same as everyone else who's fought Lesnar.


Hmm? Brock couldn't hold down Randy, and had to ride Heath Herring to a boring decision even though Herring basically just sat there and did nothing.

I wouldn't count Lesnar out, but he still has a lot to prove. He did beat up Frank Mir pretty badly in the second fight, but in so doing he didn't do anything that Brandon Vera, Marcio Cruz, and Ian Freeman hadn't already done faster and more efficiently, and no one thinks that they are top tier heavyweights. It will take more than that to convince me that he's a serious danger to Fedor on the ground.


Posted by Spam on Aug-04-2009 01:03:

quote:
Originally posted by Arbiter
Hmm? Brock couldn't hold down Randy, and had to ride Heath Herring to a boring decision even though Herring basically just sat there and did nothing.

I wouldn't count Lesnar out, but he still has a lot to prove. He did beat up Frank Mir pretty badly in the second fight, but in so doing he didn't do anything that Brandon Vera, Marcio Cruz, and Ian Freeman hadn't already done faster and more efficiently, and no one thinks that they are top tier heavyweights. It will take more than that to convince me that he's a serious danger to Fedor on the ground.


Agreed, and it's never been my position that Lesnar WILL win. Just that many of the haters think it'll be an ass-wuppin', and I'm not convinced that'll be the case.

Couture was on pace to win his fight against Lesnar, and that WAS largely due to the fact Lesnar couldn't hold him down. Couture is also much beefier than Fedor, so it would be interesting to see if he could worm his way out from beneath him. In Lesnar's last fight against Mir, it looked as though he's gotten better at being patient and keeping his weight down.

Against Heath Herring he was still runnin wild with those sissy-girl, 17 punches in half-a-second flurries. Which owed much to the fight lasting til the end. In his last fight against Mir, he seemed to have stopped with the flurries, and started throwing much more powerful, and accurate punches.

In other words, he's improving in leaps and bounds so far, and by the time he fights Fedor (if ever), he could very well be the fighter who takes him out.


Posted by Inertia on Aug-04-2009 05:12:

ehh, while not the wrestler Lesnar is, HMC is 50 pounds heavier than Lesnar.

and at 310 pounds with a major background in striking, i'd say a harder puncher.

and even tho he did mess Fedor's face up a bit, he wasn't really smothering him based on size. Fedor's takedown attempts did end with him on the bottom, but he was able to work his guard damn well. this would leave me to believe, much in the way he couldn't Couture, Lesnar wouldn't really hold Fedor down.

Fedor hits like a ton of bricks. while Lesnar is a wall of beef, he's yet to prove he's a worthwhile striker, from anything other than flapping his giant cartoon arms. so... i don't exactly see him dominating Fedor like he has others.

let's not forget, Fedor is to sambo more than Lesnar is to wrestling. and sambo guys punch.


Posted by DOOMBOT on Aug-04-2009 06:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Inertia
so... who knows exactly what the UFC was offering.

You said it.


Posted by DOOMBOT on Aug-04-2009 06:31:

quote:
Originally posted by Renzo
Well, looks like everything went smoothly


PS - Dana White has some serious issues.


Posted by iammesol on Aug-04-2009 20:44:

Even on the ground, I really don't think Forrest is going to get very far...

http://mmaglory.blogspot.com/2009/0...-vs-nathan.html


Posted by Boomer187 on Aug-05-2009 02:02:

quote:
Originally posted by iammesol
Even on the ground, I really don't think Forrest is going to get very far...

http://mmaglory.blogspot.com/2009/0...-vs-nathan.html



Forrest does have crazy strength, so it could get interesting.

But not that interesting...anderson all teh way.


Posted by Inertia on Aug-06-2009 17:38:

hrmm...

Forrest can be damn scary. you never know...

then again...











well, that kind of makes him scarier.


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