Originally posted by Anton
I think the state of trance is improving with tracks like this:
Nice track!
This is also a nice track mimicking the old trance sounds.
Posted by DigiNut on Aug-17-2009 02:21:
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Originally posted by Anton
I think the state of trance is improving with tracks like this:
If by "improving" you mean "sounding exactly the same as what we heard in 2004 and extremely similar to what we heard in 2001", then yes, it's "improving".
Posted by NickT on Aug-17-2009 05:19:
everyone has a different idea of what good Trance is as well as what they want Trance to be & Where they want it to go. As long as you find the Trance music that sounds good 2 you listen to it. Music always changes & when it changes to much for you, you have to find something that suits your taste
Posted by Anton on Aug-17-2009 14:26:
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Originally posted by DigiNut
If by "improving" you mean "sounding exactly the same as what we heard in 2004 and extremely similar to what we heard in 2001", then yes, it's "improving".
I don't think it sounds like trance from 2004, or 2001. Maybe it has some things in common with tracks from those years but I think it sounds different and fresh.
Posted by ChemEnhanced on Aug-17-2009 14:38:
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Originally posted by *****
everyone has a different idea of what good Trance is as well as what they want Trance to be & Where they want it to go. As long as you find the Trance music that sounds good 2 you listen to it. Music always changes & when it changes to much for you, you have to find something that suits your taste
I can find all the great trance I want but if the DJs play crappy trance over and over again, it doesn't really matter what tracks I find. When I go out, I want to hear good music...not poorly produced tracks that appeal to people that in a years time will be listening to the next great big fad.
Posted by yankeeBaby on Aug-17-2009 14:41:
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Originally posted by DigiNut
I didn't realize that the question "when did you start" implies that one has stopped.
You should be happy that you clocked in 5 years of frequent partying without getting tired. Most people I know (including me) slowed down after 2 or 3 years (none of us have "stopped"). Quality or not, people change, they grow up and take off the rose-tinted glasses.
haha no its was the "again" word that threw me off
yes you definitely have a point when it comes to clubbing. Surely one's priorities change and we all grow. I dont feel the need to be in the club every weekend when there are 50000 more things I can do in NYC.
I think my complaints come more from the quality of the tracks and sets, because I still choose to listen to them on the subway/gym/whatever. (and also on the occasions that I *do* go to the club!) Seems to be very little flow in sets, and a reduced quality and creativity in tracks (which clearly will not help anyone's set, either!)
The argument that listening to the same genre repeitively may hold some truth. But at the same time, why havent I gotten sick of other genre's of music then? I listen to many types of music, but it seems the overwhelming opinion that trance is, indeed, on the decline in the last few years.
At first I thought it was just me, but then I hear the conversation EVERYWHERE...in person, on forums, in clubs, etc.....While I know this is all subjective, i brought the topic up because of the massive similarity of opinion on the subject.
Posted by NickT on Aug-17-2009 15:01:
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Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
I understand what you mean but no one here controls what djs play, if djs decide to play bad records or records that everyone has that shows who they are as djs.
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Originally posted by yankeeBaby
The argument that listening to the same genre repeitively may hold some truth. But at the same time, why havent I gotten sick of other genre's of music then?
You probobly listen to more trance than the other genres thats why you are bored off it right now. Trance changes & moves it doesnt stay stagnant
Posted by yankeeBaby on Aug-17-2009 15:36:
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Originally posted by *****
You probobly listen to more trance than the other genres thats why you are bored off it right now
sorry, but not the case Posted by Endlesswave on Aug-17-2009 16:58:
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Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
I can find all the great trance I want but if the DJs play crappy trance over and over again, it doesn't really matter what tracks I find. When I go out, I want to hear good music...not poorly produced tracks that appeal to people that in a years time will be listening to the next great big fad.
Posted by ChemEnhanced on Aug-17-2009 17:23:
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Originally posted by *****
I understand what you mean but no one here controls what djs play, if djs decide to play bad records or records that everyone has that shows who they are as djs.
We may not control what DJs play but we do have a voice and its up to the DJs and producers to listen. There are many DJs and producers that are on these forums so they can make decision on what to play and produce by what we say.
If DJs and producers want to become big time they have to play and produce tracks that are popular....unfortunately, the majority of club goers are the ones who follow the fads in music and may not really care to look any deeper then "I heard this on the radio so its awesome and popular". The producers are producing similar tracks to something that was big on the radio and the DJs are playing tracks that sound similar to ones played on the radio....all in an attempt to keep the fad music lovers happy.
Posted by DigiNut on Aug-17-2009 23:33:
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Originally posted by yankeeBaby
The argument that listening to the same genre repeitively may hold some truth. But at the same time, why havent I gotten sick of other genre's of music then?
I would assume because you haven't been listening to them for as long, or as frequently. Though that's just a guess, seeing as how I don't know the actual numbers.
I believe that there is some truth to the declining quality hypothesis, but the arguments that would support it (i.e. lower barriers to entry) would apply to all genres. If I have one major criticism of trance, it's that it's become stagnant, not necessarily worse.
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At first I thought it was just me, but then I hear the conversation EVERYWHERE...in person, on forums, in clubs, etc.....
Well of course. Everybody has the same honeymoon-stage experience, and everybody has a tendency to project their own feelings onto the outside world and believe that vague emotions represent hard facts. If they like a tune, it must be a great tune. If they don't, it's crap. Human nature.
Posted by Endlesswave on Aug-20-2009 08:43:
All I know is whatever happened to consistent parties that felt like I was here (yes even in TO):
Posted by yankeeBaby on Aug-21-2009 05:00:
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Originally posted by Endlesswave
All I know is whatever happened to consistent parties that felt like I was here (yes even in TO):
I would rather go to one of those parties twice a year...... then go to some of the weak ass attempts at a party NYC has, every weekend.
Posted by samhouse on Aug-21-2009 06:00:
i don't know...there's still a decent amount of trace being released. Lots of crap too....but still some good shit.