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ATB needs to learn somethings from Bruno.
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| Originally posted by Maizie In addition..... (Taken from planetlove forum) Production needed to perform a double generator change over due to a faulty unit which would eventually knock out the LEDs if not corrected. They spoke with Judge Jules and asked for his help to allow them to do this without causing any prolonged breaks in the show and upseting the crowd. Jules kindly agreed to help in whatever way he could. As ATB was playing for two hours and Jules just over one hour this was the only time it could be done and needed to be done before the final set which was PVD's. The timing of this and what Jules would do to entertain the crowd whilst the two change overs took place was planned in advance, it would not have affected either ATB or PVD and all ATB had to do was just play one little hour earlier. I'm sorry if you are one of his fans but I can not for the life of me understand why anyone would refuse to play at all rather than play one hour earlier. |
does anyone have the article or link to it about pvd slagging off atb or atb slagging off pvd or whatever happened from about 5 years ago??
no but i just mixed in
4. Humate - Love Stimulation (PVD Love kicking atb out of club mix)
LOL
DOWNFALL OF ATB'S ALREADY FAILING CAREER.
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| Originally posted by barry2006 does anyone have the article or link to it about pvd slagging off atb or atb slagging off pvd or whatever happened from about 5 years ago?? |
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| Originally posted by Nik Novo Yup, but both threads are in german: ATB Forum: http://forum.atb-music.com/showflat...sb=5&o=&fpart=1 German Tranceaddict: http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...threadid=146663 |
sounds like pvd & team know exactly how to push atb's buttons, they just ran him out of town.
it does sound, however, like this was instigated by the pvd camp. it sounds like the event organizer would have been breaching a contract to change the timeslot.
here from his twitter
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On my way now to New York. Playing Electric Zoo festival same time with Guetta! I'm in luck that Paul van dyk is not playing in NY! ;o) |
If the following thing is true (found it in the official atb forum) a lot of people will change their mind.
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Well, i am more interested to find out why all this played out so late, as on the festival timetable i bought at the event it clearly states:
ATB 20:45-22:45
Judge Jules 22:45-00:00
Paul van Dyk 00:00-02:00
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What???? Thats very very interesting! If this is true, I think all the people who still thinks I�m talking about wrong facts!?
Still unbelievable for me. Tomorrow my Management and Booking agency will give an official statement to all the things that happened.
I would appreciate, if more people can confirm this timetable published on the festival!
Andre
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| Originally posted by DaveT So what did Judge Jules do? Did the music have to be shut off? WHY did it have to be Judge Jules? What did Jules do to entertain the crowd? WHY did it matter if it happened if Jules played ealrier or later....they said the change out needed to happen before PvD came out. Did they have to wait for the replacement generators to come in or something? This type of stuff isn't really explained. The reasoning there is vague. This all said, PvD has a rep on this stuff and of course he and the promoter would defend any action they did to move slots around....so until I hear clear reasoning, I think both sides are guilty...only way to be fair. ATB's ranting vs the promtoer's nicely written responses aren't helpign ATB though. |
lol (not)
i've been so deceived. This is like the bush administration all over again.
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| Originally posted by Mr.Mystery How are they any different? |
never heard a ATB set before though
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| Originally posted by coolestrl ATB just keeps dropping hits on 9PM in every fucking track, stop doin it already its not new anymore. |
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| Originally posted by Nik Novo And PVD plays For an Angel in every fucking set, he seriously needs to stop it. |
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| Originally posted by _Ocean_Drive_ Does he state a reason? Style too different? PvD wanted more playtime? Doesn't like AT? Wanted more time to play Karaoke with the crowd? Becoming more of an egotisitcal sh!t every day? Ugh, he's playing in Tokyo on 10th October, and I'm currently planning on going down to see him. He sucked balls last time (Feb '08). In fact it was horrendous. The only good thing that came from that night was dancing to Yoda's set before and after. I'm hoping last time was just a blip, but judging by that Youtube clip and other comments, I'm fearing it's gonna be crap, again.  |
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| Originally posted by DaveT So what did Judge Jules do? Did the music have to be shut off? WHY did it have to be Judge Jules? What did Jules do to entertain the crowd? WHY did it matter if it happened if Jules played ealrier or later....they said the change out needed to happen before PvD came out. Did they have to wait for the replacement generators to come in or something? This type of stuff isn't really explained. The reasoning there is vague. This all said, PvD has a rep on this stuff and of course he and the promoter would defend any action they did to move slots around....so until I hear clear reasoning, I think both sides are guilty...only way to be fair. ATB's ranting vs the promtoer's nicely written responses aren't helpign ATB though. |
Interesting! Here is the official statement from the atb management:
Source
Dear friends of the electronic dance music,
My name is Werner Griese, I am the owner and director of the management, booking and event agency Dancefield.
For over 8 years, Dancefield has been a solid and reliable member of the electronic music scene, representing a variety of artists like for example Dr. Motte, Felix Kr�cher, Lucca, Mauro Picotto and ATB.
Each weekend, with our worldwide partners, established through high quality, honest and trustworthy work, we schedule artists all over the globe. Furthermore, we have a long-established and trusty partnership with the Love Parade, Nature One, Mayday and the Alpha Festival.
Until today, I had the utmost faith in this electronic scene and especially in the people working within this scene. But sadly, last weekend I had to realize that there are black sheep in this scene who put their money aims above quality and foremost above your rights and wishes to have the promised party with the scheduled and booked artists.
As you all know, this weekend at the Planet Love Festival our artist ATB was scheduled to play a two hour set for you, other artists at the festival were Judge Jules, Marco V, Fedde le Grand and Paul van Dyk. For this performance, a booking contract was made between ATB and Planet Love Festival via Dancefield, in which ATB was contracted to be presented by the festival as the 2nd Headliner. Among other things, this contract specified a fixed time slot for ATB�s 2 hour performance from 22.00 hours - 00.00 hours. ATB was the only artist besides Paul van Dyk to be contracted with a 2 hour performance time.
Surprisingly, this Saturday evening (5th September 2009) I was called at our hotel by the festival shuttle services. I was asked by shuttle services if we could play at another time slot as there were delayed flights of some DJs who consequently wouldn�t make it on time to the festival. Generally, I have absolute understanding for situations like this and I always try to help, but it simply would not have been possible for us to make the proposed 20.45 � 22.00 time slot, as we were still at the hotel. Besides, it was not the contracted 2 hour performance time. And last but not least, I don�t know why the Planet Love promoter didn�t call me himself, he has my mobile number!
What is more, in my 15 years of working as a stage manager at the largest festivals and events in Germany, I have never encountered the situation that a headliner was moved from his contracted time slot to a shorter and earlier performance time. Arriving on the festival site, we tried to talk to the promoters to discuss and clarify the situation and to find a solution. But during the various talks, it became clear that in the run-up to the event the organisers were informed by Paul van Dyk that ATB was not to play directly before him, otherwise he threatened the organizers that he wouldn�t perform at the festival.
I was told this straight to my face and in front of many witnesses, and I have to say I am more than shocked by this!
The organizers told us that they have no possibility of changing this situation and they were very sorry about this. My question as to whether this was common practice and a basic example of how their organisation works, letting certain DJs decide who is to be contracted for the line-up and when they are to perform, was shamefully ignored and not answered.
In the end, the issue was not about changing artists in the line-up due to problems like delayed flights or other problems, but it was only about Paul van Dyk not wanting ATB to perform directly before him until 00.00 hours, because Paul van Dyk did not want this.
But now the promoters have started spreading wrong and false facts which I will not discuss in detail here. Such behaviour can not be tolerated and certainly will not be tolerated by me, as it throws an unfair light onto my artist who is innocently dragged through the dirt.
Sadly, Planet Love did not and still does not have the courage to stand up against someone who tries to dictate to them how to do their job. They are still continuing this behaviour after the event, which saddens me deeply.
Also, I do not understand why it is impossible for Paul van Dyk to have ATB play directly before him. Up to this very day, nobody can explain this to me. Such behaviour in our scene is absolutely intolerable, especially for you, the fans, the lovers of the music, who have paid to party and can expect to be treated respectfully.
Surely, everyone can understand that such a situation is simply not tolerable for us. Although the behaviour of the organizers and promoters put us into a state of shock, we did offer to play from 23.00 � 00.00 hours. But this offer was also refused by them due to the instructions given to them by Paul van Dyk.
You can be assured that this decision of not performing was not easy for us at all, and I feel very sorry for all the fans. Everyone who knows me and ATB is well aware that we always do everything to make a gig possible, but in this case even with our willingness to help and our offers to solve the situation, it was just not possible.
Finally, I want to make clear that at no time during the discussions were there securities present or in the vicinity or even necessary, and that at no time were threats issued by ATB or myself towards the organisers/promoters or their staff.
We want to clearly dissociate ourselves from the allegations made by the promoters/organizers of the Plant Love Festival at this time.
This event will leave a black spot in our memories, because in the end the people who got really hurt are you, the fans. And that surely is something we never ever want to happen!
Yours faithfully
Werner Griese (CEO Dancefield)
I had Pvd
- Angel (e-werk remix) as cellphone tone, got rid of it the instant i read this topic before i even entered the thread
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| Originally posted by Infinitor Interesting! Here is the official statement from the atb management: Source Dear friends of the electronic dance music, My name is Werner Griese, I am the owner and director of the management, booking and event agency Dancefield. For over 8 years, Dancefield has been a solid and reliable member of the electronic music scene, representing a variety of artists like for example Dr. Motte, Felix Kr�cher, Lucca, Mauro Picotto and ATB. Each weekend, with our worldwide partners, established through high quality, honest and trustworthy work, we schedule artists all over the globe. Furthermore, we have a long-established and trusty partnership with the Love Parade, Nature One, Mayday and the Alpha Festival. Until today, I had the utmost faith in this electronic scene and especially in the people working within this scene. But sadly, last weekend I had to realize that there are black sheep in this scene who put their money aims above quality and foremost above your rights and wishes to have the promised party with the scheduled and booked artists. As you all know, this weekend at the Planet Love Festival our artist ATB was scheduled to play a two hour set for you, other artists at the festival were Judge Jules, Marco V, Fedde le Grand and Paul van Dyk. For this performance, a booking contract was made between ATB and Planet Love Festival via Dancefield, in which ATB was contracted to be presented by the festival as the 2nd Headliner. Among other things, this contract specified a fixed time slot for ATB�s 2 hour performance from 22.00 hours - 00.00 hours. ATB was the only artist besides Paul van Dyk to be contracted with a 2 hour performance time. Surprisingly, this Saturday evening (5th September 2009) I was called at our hotel by the festival shuttle services. I was asked by shuttle services if we could play at another time slot as there were delayed flights of some DJs who consequently wouldn�t make it on time to the festival. Generally, I have absolute understanding for situations like this and I always try to help, but it simply would not have been possible for us to make the proposed 20.45 � 22.00 time slot, as we were still at the hotel. Besides, it was not the contracted 2 hour performance time. And last but not least, I don�t know why the Planet Love promoter didn�t call me himself, he has my mobile number! What is more, in my 15 years of working as a stage manager at the largest festivals and events in Germany, I have never encountered the situation that a headliner was moved from his contracted time slot to a shorter and earlier performance time. Arriving on the festival site, we tried to talk to the promoters to discuss and clarify the situation and to find a solution. But during the various talks, it became clear that in the run-up to the event the organisers were informed by Paul van Dyk that ATB was not to play directly before him, otherwise he threatened the organizers that he wouldn�t perform at the festival. I was told this straight to my face and in front of many witnesses, and I have to say I am more than shocked by this! The organizers told us that they have no possibility of changing this situation and they were very sorry about this. My question as to whether this was common practice and a basic example of how their organisation works, letting certain DJs decide who is to be contracted for the line-up and when they are to perform, was shamefully ignored and not answered. In the end, the issue was not about changing artists in the line-up due to problems like delayed flights or other problems, but it was only about Paul van Dyk not wanting ATB to perform directly before him until 00.00 hours, because Paul van Dyk did not want this. But now the promoters have started spreading wrong and false facts which I will not discuss in detail here. Such behaviour can not be tolerated and certainly will not be tolerated by me, as it throws an unfair light onto my artist who is innocently dragged through the dirt. Sadly, Planet Love did not and still does not have the courage to stand up against someone who tries to dictate to them how to do their job. They are still continuing this behaviour after the event, which saddens me deeply. Also, I do not understand why it is impossible for Paul van Dyk to have ATB play directly before him. Up to this very day, nobody can explain this to me. Such behaviour in our scene is absolutely intolerable, especially for you, the fans, the lovers of the music, who have paid to party and can expect to be treated respectfully. Surely, everyone can understand that such a situation is simply not tolerable for us. Although the behaviour of the organizers and promoters put us into a state of shock, we did offer to play from 23.00 � 00.00 hours. But this offer was also refused by them due to the instructions given to them by Paul van Dyk. You can be assured that this decision of not performing was not easy for us at all, and I feel very sorry for all the fans. Everyone who knows me and ATB is well aware that we always do everything to make a gig possible, but in this case even with our willingness to help and our offers to solve the situation, it was just not possible. Finally, I want to make clear that at no time during the discussions were there securities present or in the vicinity or even necessary, and that at no time were threats issued by ATB or myself towards the organisers/promoters or their staff. We want to clearly dissociate ourselves from the allegations made by the promoters/organizers of the Plant Love Festival at this time. This event will leave a black spot in our memories, because in the end the people who got really hurt are you, the fans. And that surely is something we never ever want to happen! Yours faithfully Werner Griese (CEO Dancefield) |
as I said b4, dont vote PVD.
I listened to pvd - for and angel, its just a repetition of bullshit melody.
That last statement sounded so emo-ish 
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| Originally posted by dj christian I had Pvd - Angel (e-werk remix) as cellphone tone, got rid of it the instant i read this topic before i even entered the thread |
Both ATB and PVD are coked out of their minds anyway and haven't put out a decent set in 5+ years. Maybe the management of ATB/PVD should worry more about getting their acts sober so they can bring quality music and not make idiots of themselves.
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