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Posted by RichieV on Nov-25-2009 06:19:

how confident ?

I will do it for 50$ US just to shut you up. You will also have to apologize to trance addict with the official heading "Sorry for being a douche".

If you can accept that. Then you have a deal.


Posted by DJ Robby Rox on Nov-25-2009 06:20:

quote:
Originally posted by RichieV
no

you came on here saying the virus sounds better than software. It doesn't. Get over it. Nobody has a problem with your synth. Everyone probably owns one. I still have a B rack in storage somewhere. The point is that you have never owned a synth, still haven't even owned a synth yet since it is still most likely being shipped from ebay yet you somehow have the audacity to say it makes everything else sound like garbage from a bunch normal sounding presets that can be achieved with other tools.


Yeh cause it does sound better then software. Get over it. Shitty presets on the virus still have more character then decent presets on softsynths. And decent virus patches sound a lot deeper, dirtier and lusher then the best softsynth patches.
Sell your software and get over the denial.
All you're doing is minimizing how big the difference is.


Posted by RichieV on Nov-25-2009 06:21:

lol I don't know what to say. Would be perhaps more wise to actually get your synth before you spout such rubbish.


Posted by DJ Robby Rox on Nov-25-2009 06:27:

quote:
Originally posted by RichieV
how confident ?

I will do it for 50$ US just to shut you up. You will also have to apologize to trance addict with the official heading "Sorry for being a douche".

If you can accept that. Then you have a deal.


What don't you understand about "terms".
First you said I had to make a patch on the virus, and that you would create what I made. That was your first attempt at changing the rules.

So you saw that failed. And now you actually are asking ME to pay YOU money? What a desperate fucking move.

I'll explain this move to other people in this thread so they understand what you're doing.
Mr. Riche here sensed that he couldnt get over on me by making me make the presets, so instead he tells ME that I have to PAY him to participate in a challenge that **HE INITIALLY OFFERED** for FREE.

But NOW, because he is afraid, he wants me to pay him? Haha. I could give 2 fvcks about apologizing, but I am not paying you a cent BECAUSE that was not part of the original incentive for you to shut me up. It had to do with how confident you were, so what you are really doing, is admitting your own confidence isn't incentive enough to take the challenge, but that I have to pay you too now?

Why? Cause you don't have enough confidence to motivate you? Again, if you change the terms in a way that don't give you an advantage, maybe I'll consider them. Otherwise, try again.


Posted by DJ Robby Rox on Nov-25-2009 06:29:

quote:
Originally posted by RichieV
lol I don't know what to say. Would be perhaps more wise to actually get your synth before you spout such rubbish.


I don't understand what you want me to say? Maybe I'll get my synth and change my mind, maybe I won't. But if you just bought a fucking ferrari (or any car you were excited about) the last thing Im gonna do is sit here and tell you all the faults of the vehicle, and that twenty thousand people died last year due to poor safety specs.

Thats essentially what it seems like you're doing.


Posted by RichieV on Nov-25-2009 06:32:

for the third time, I never bothered to say anything until you starting going apeshit telling everyone how crappy software is. It was only until you started stating falsehoods with absolutely no context other than some preset mp3 demos you heard online did I start to get annoyed with you.

Ever wonder why it is only the people that don't have a virus that are the ones that will say they are better than any synth on the planet ?

And I never offered for free. I said it is easily done if you know what you are doing. So if you really are that confident, then reimburse me for my time. I don't think it is unreasonable. I will wave the fee if you take a picture of yourself in a dress and make it your new avatar.


Posted by Fledz on Nov-25-2009 06:44:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox
I don't understand what you want me to say? Maybe I'll get my synth and change my mind, maybe I won't. But if you just bought a fucking ferrari (or any car you were excited about) the last thing Im gonna do is sit here and tell you all the faults of the vehicle, and that twenty thousand people died last year due to poor safety specs.

Thats essentially what it seems like you're doing.

Of course you won't because RichieV, being at least of average intelligence would have done that research before he bought the fucking Ferrari.

Can't say the same for you.


Posted by DJ Robby Rox on Nov-25-2009 06:44:

quote:
Originally posted by RichieV
for the third time, I never bothered to say anything until you starting going apeshit telling everyone how crappy software is. It was only until you started stating falsehoods with absolutely no context other than some preset mp3 demos you heard online did I start to get annoyed with you.

Ever wonder why it is only the people that don't have a virus that are the ones that will say they are better than any synth on the planet ?

And I never offered for free. I said it is easily done if you know what you are doing. So if you really are that confident, then reimburse me for my time. I don't think it is unreasonable. I will wave the fee if you take a picture of yourself in a dress and make it your new avatar.


"Crappy software" was something you added to this all on your own. I simply made the statement that virus sounded better, not that software was crappy. Lets keep this focused first off.
And no I've never gathered any pattern that only people who don't own viruses talk them up. In fact, the only one other person in this thread has talked up viruses besides me is someone who actually owns a virus. And if you go over to the infected forums (all people who own viruses) you will see thread after thread of how wonderful they all think the virus is.
So please take that generalization as well and burn it. I will gladly take a picture of myself in a skirt. I will actually look better then you think cause I keep myself in shape.. so promise you won't get a boner.. and I'm not leaving my face for the world to see.

Think about it theres no rush, if we do wind up doing it, I won't be able to get everything uploaded till tommorow. Planning on bed in another 1/2 hour or so..


Posted by DJ Robby Rox on Nov-25-2009 06:48:

quote:
Originally posted by Fledz
Of course you won't because RichieV, being at least of average intelligence would have done that research before he bought the fucking Ferrari.

Can't say the same for you.


I did research monkey brains. I've been researching both the Virus and Nord for several years, among the Mopho, tetra and Blofeld. So please shove it.
I could see how it would appear that way as the thread was titled for another synth, but the Virus I would have prefered more anyway, and because of that I actually did more research in general on the Virus.


Posted by Nightshift on Nov-25-2009 07:21:

LOL


Robby you are seriously sadly sadly mistaken mate.


Posted by Fledz on Nov-25-2009 07:34:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox
I did research monkey brains. I've been researching both the Virus and Nord for several years, among the Mopho, tetra and Blofeld. So please shove it.
I could see how it would appear that way as the thread was titled for another synth, but the Virus I would have prefered more anyway, and because of that I actually did more research in general on the Virus.

So years of research and you never bothered to check how to hook them up to your computer? Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.


Posted by Aesthetic on Nov-25-2009 07:34:

You change your fucking tune with every post Robbie.. You're the one that came in here saying that the virus was better than every other soft synth.. then and only then did Richie call you up.

Were you around when people were making entire tunes out of fl studios 3osc? It's because they know how to program a synth.. You complaining that soft synths are inadequate "after 6 years of producing" is making excuses for poor synth programming knowledge.

And yes, I own a virus before you ask, and yes it has its own characteristics, but its not miles ahead of every other soft synth on the planet you dumb shit. If you really believe that you are deluded

Christ.. I feel dumber for having to speak to you sometimes

PS. If you can't program synths in software, you just wasted a fuck load of money son. LOL


Posted by Nightshift on Nov-25-2009 07:36:

quote:
Originally posted by Aesthetic
PS. If you can't program synths in software, you just wasted a fuck load of money son. LOL


+1


Posted by DJ Robby Rox on Nov-25-2009 07:58:

quote:
Originally posted by Fledz
So years of research and you never bothered to check how to hook them up to your computer? Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.


Yeh because if you go do some research yourself, you'll see nearly all the write ups on Nord actually leave that detail out, and focus more on the specs of the synth and what sounds its good for.

Seriously, go do some research yourself and you'll find it a very common trend. The fact you had to point it out only shows you most likely have not researched yourself and realized that trend.


Posted by DJ Robby Rox on Nov-25-2009 08:04:

quote:
Originally posted by Aesthetic
You change your fucking tune with every post Robbie.. You're the one that came in here saying that the virus was better than every other soft synth.. then and only then did Richie call you up.

Were you around when people were making entire tunes out of fl studios 3osc? It's because they know how to program a synth.. You complaining that soft synths are inadequate "after 6 years of producing" is making excuses for poor synth programming knowledge.

And yes, I own a virus before you ask, and yes it has its own characteristics, but its not miles ahead of every other soft synth on the planet you dumb shit. If you really believe that you are deluded

Christ.. I feel dumber for having to speak to you sometimes

PS. If you can't program synths in software, you just wasted a fuck load of money son. LOL


Quote exactly when I "changed my tune" right now you lying piece of shit.
Richie V is the one who changed his tune are you blind AND stupid? Softsynths are inadequate for the level of sound I aspire to, maybe not you, but thats personal preference. If you enjoy working with softsynths, have a happy fucking life.
I on the other hand can see the benefits of a classic set of decidated circuitry. If you wanna sit here and play that socialist hippy shit "all synths are created equal", please go waste someone elses time. I'm obviously not naive enough to buy into it..


Posted by kitphillips on Nov-25-2009 08:05:

quote:
Originally posted by DjStephenWiley
Sounds like a (possibly personal) sound engineering problem. If presets can be made that are great as you described, there is no excuse for them to not be made by others. I don't know if you have checked out OS 3 for the Virus but it added a lot more character to the synth. I can't really hold too strong of an opinion here because its only my second synth to own, but I can tell you right now I will never, ever sell it. I think the Virus sound doesn't get the credit it deserves. It sounds amazing through my Yamaha HS80M's blazing at peak volume. F'ing bass rattling my chest....mmmmmm....


Yeah, most things sound good at peak volume. My opinion's limited, since I'm just going off playing friend's synths and in stores and stuff, don't even know the OS number, but that was my impression from everything I heard. I don't think the presets are practically useful, but they're very dynamic because of the three little macro knobs which are well utilised by the preset creators. This gives the impression that its a lot more hands on and dynamic than it actually is.

Maybe software doesn't sound like a virus, quite frankly I'm happy with that, I don't think the virus sounds good, I like massive better. That's not denial, its personal taste.

PS I was going to say more, but I don't even know what this thread's about anymore
Retards


Posted by Fledz on Nov-25-2009 08:08:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox
Yeh because if you go do some research yourself, you'll see nearly all the write ups on Nord actually leave that detail out, and focus more on the specs of the synth and what sounds its good for.

Seriously, go do some research yourself and you'll find it a very common trend. The fact you had to point it out only shows you most likely have not researched yourself and realized that trend.

It doesn't need to be written, it's something you find out yourself. When I decided to buy my Dyns, do you think I looked at all the options for audio interfaces and made sure I had the right cabling and that everything could theoretically work before I even confirmed my order? Of course I did.

Same thing applies here. Logic would dictate that you have everything planned out before buying something.


Posted by DJ Robby Rox on Nov-25-2009 08:27:

quote:
Originally posted by Fledz
It doesn't need to be written, it's something you find out yourself. When I decided to buy my Dyns, do you think I looked at all the options for audio interfaces and made sure I had the right cabling and that everything could theoretically work before I even confirmed my order? Of course I did.

Same thing applies here. Logic would dictate that you have everything planned out before buying something.


Well forgive me if the first synth I bought had a direct usb connection so I assumed anything digital would have been the same. I did not read a single thing in all the write ups I read to even imagine it would have been an issue that Id research independently.

So great, either A) you're smarter then me or B) you have more experience, either way I'm glad it came up last minute because I wanted the virus more anyway. What matters the most in the end anyway is my music, not whether I'm an expert programmer, or how my synths connect to my computer, or EVEN how smart I am.

What always matters in the end is just the music.


Posted by doublenegative on Nov-25-2009 08:28:

I'd actually argue that the Snow was a good choice for him.

Whilst you can get the same or similar results with other synths, there are some glaring disadvantages when compared to a TI. For example, Sylenth1 sounds great, but the interface is clunky, the FX are gash, and the modulation section is lacking. Likewise, Massive sounds great, but it absolutely thrashes your CPU into oblivion. Personally, I find the TI to be easy to program, and it sounds great, but without putting a load on my CPU....for that reason it's my 'go to' synth.

I don't see any problem with spending $1000 or whatever on a synth, even if you're just a bedroom producer. I've come to the realisation that I'll probably never be a pro producer, but the money I spent on my Snow has been totally worth it because of the enjoyment I get from just fucking around making shit tunes with it. If you can afford to, why not?


Posted by echosystm on Nov-25-2009 08:50:

I want to meet DJ Robby Rox in real life, haha.

Seriously though, DJ Robby Rox, do you notice the pattern in threads you create, or are you completely oblivious to it? I'm curious. At what point are you going to switch from "it's them" to "perhaps it's me"?


Posted by Beatflux on Nov-25-2009 09:02:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox
Softsynths are inadequate for the level of sound I aspire to, maybe not you, but thats personal preference.


What are your reference tracks?


Posted by DJ Robby Rox on Nov-25-2009 09:18:

quote:
Originally posted by echosystm
I want to meet DJ Robby Rox in real life, haha.

Seriously though, DJ Robby Rox, do you notice the pattern in threads you create, or are you completely oblivious to it? I'm curious. At what point are you going to switch from "it's them" to "perhaps it's me"?


I do notice the patterns I create but I do work on "me" all the time. Also in other areas of my life besides music (gym,etc) But there is only so fast a pace I can get better bro.

I just fear if I don't get better faster I may honestly lose the overall drive to produce anymore. And saying that does not implicate the virus as = better sounds, I know that.
But to me its more testing new grounds, I mean after 6 years with a girl you should be married. I've been producing basically every single day (well almost) for all those years, so its time I get at least one good hardsynth.
Maybe the virus won't inspire me, and maybe I'll sell it in 6 months and spend the money on piano lessons idk. All I know is I love some of the sounds it can make, and I'd like to see what I can do with it.


Posted by DJ Robby Rox on Nov-25-2009 09:19:

quote:
Originally posted by Beatflux
What are your reference tracks?


They're earlier in this thread on a youtube link.


Posted by echosystm on Nov-25-2009 09:28:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox
I do notice the patterns I create but I do work on "me" all the time. Also in other areas of my life besides music (gym,etc)


I'm not talking about music, I'm talking about your fundamental interactions with people on this forum. Every thread turns into a shitstorm.


Posted by Ry Thomas on Nov-25-2009 09:41:

quote:
Originally posted by DJ Robby Rox
Thats the same exact thing as saying bread is just flour. Well no, not quite. White bread and potato bread maybe bread, but slight variations prove in life to have significantly different outcomes.

A virus has much better algorithms, and higher end DSPs that are faster and result in better sound. Flour can be made by grain that grows in fields of dry unfertile shit, or it can be grown in moist, warm, fertile regions. Its obvious both lead to flour, but one leads to a much HIGHER GRADE of flour. Same as virus is a MUCH MUCH higher grade of software.
So you saying a virus IS just sofware, is equally relevant as saying water is water and air is air. Well.. yeh, but you're being ignorant to the hundreds of other factors that lend to the grade of air or water you drink or breathe.



dude, i owned a virus for over a year, please dont try to explain to me what it is or what it does, ive been there and done it


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