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Originally posted by Maher Daniel the reality of things is, allot of underaged kids were coming to piknic with booze and getting totally ruined, the site was attracting allot of police so by not allowing any booze from outside controls the underaged drinking. which is a particular reason why i think this is happening it sucks but maybe it will control the amount of young bloods that come to piknic and act a fool

so u're saying they are still gonna make it an "all-ages" event, let in anyone of any age but when they get to the bar, every bartender will card any client who looks underage? hello, 45 min wait for drinks.

and instead of coming down hard on underage kids, how about coming down harder on the legal-age GHB freaks who OD every month? they get too fucked, ban them, point final.

in my humble opinion, i think piknic should be 18+, end of story. the second you have an event that attracts recreational activities such as snorting blow & alcohol galore...an 18+ rule should be in place immediately. i mean, i dont see many children under the age of 12 hanging out with their parents...they aren't rly the demographic that will make or break piknic's attendance.

just my opnion...but having to buy your booze = bottle service will surely be available? i'm assuming but it seems logical...what's next? "broooooooo, we gotta buy 2 bottles of goose to get a booth" aka humongous bean bag...pfffff, that's the last thing i wanna see is fkn bottle poppers with daddy's credit card.

it rly sucks tho, im a poor student, i work as a waitress. everytime i go out & buy drinks to have a lil fun, it's easily $6-$10 per drink, plus tip of between $2-$4. plus my 10$ entrance for the event...by 7pm, i'll have spent well over 100$. just not in my budget to do that every sunday. i have a feeling i'll defo have to wisely pick and choose the events i attend...preferably on a payweek

i love piknic, i'm just very curious to see what kind of effect this rule will have. i vote for 'more ppl taking hard drugs' and seeing even more fucked up ODs on a more regular basis...hopefully not!

Well either way, piknic will probably come out with an answer and their vision as far as if this should be an adult party day or a family day.

One thing is for sure, they obvioulsy can't keep things as they were if they need to apply this rule.

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Originally posted by Ravemontreal Because the point of Piknic is to spend a day outside, listening to music, and have the chance to spend that day with family, friends and kids. And that is more important then to get wasted on a cheap budget. It's not a big deal. Either you go easier on your drinking, or you bring a few extra bucks.

Honestly, if you're bringing your kids to Piknic I'm questioning your parenting skills. I see these moms with their 4-5 year olds on their shoulders, walking around with the music blasting in their ears, kids smoking pot all over the place, gay dudes making out.. It's fun, and I have no problem with all of the above, but it's not for kids. If you wanna spend quality time with your kids, go to the Biosphere, or to a museum, or to the Old Port.

next will be bottle service and Piknic will turn into Jersey Shore

BYOB, sunny weather and kids just seemed like a curious mix.. convenient but curious. I think ppl who will wanna pop will pop regardless of the cost of booze. Heavy drinkers aren't poppers and heavy poppers aren't drinkers, for the most part. I could be wrong, however

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Originally posted by corjay9 Honestly, if you're bringing your kids to Piknic I'm questioning your parenting skills. I see these moms with their 4-5 year olds on their shoulders, walking around with the music blasting in their ears, kids smoking pot all over the place, gay dudes making out.. It's fun, and I have no problem with all of the above, but it's not for kids. If you wanna spend quality time with your kids, go to the Biosphere, or to a museum, or to the Old Port.

You see, when guys from Piknic started this thing, it was about spending a nice day outside and being able to bring your kids.

Your answer is what stupid people made of it and what the event as become. And now that everybody doesn't know how to behave, then block out the families. Do a 18+ so people can get fucked up and save on beer.

What about if that wasn't the first initial goal of this organization?

I actually think it's a beautiful thing that kids and families can spend the day there. And that if you don't put the kid 3 feet away from the speaker, it's quite nice and you have all evening and all week-end to get fucked up in 100 different ways and place.

And btw 2 guys making out is not worst or better than 2 straights making out. Were not in the 50's.

it's nice martin, for sure.

in a hypothetical world.

it just doesn't work anymore. drugs and booze have defo corrupted the "family side" of piknic...it's been years it's like this too...

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Originally posted by ~*Stereohead*~ it rly sucks tho, im a poor student, i work as a waitress. everytime i go out & buy drinks to have a lil fun, it's easily $6-$10 per drink, plus tip of between $2-$4. plus my 10$ entrance for the event...by 7pm, i'll have spent well over 100$. just not in my budget to do that every sunday. i have a feeling i'll defo have to wisely pick and choose the events i attend...preferably on a payweek

This is what I'm getting at. For many youth, students or newly working, disallowing BYOB either makes the event less accessible or encourages drug usage because of their limited amount of disposable income.

Of course there is the middle ground of just drinking less, but you would be living in a fantasy world to think that a majority of Piknik's regular attendees wouldn't supplement less drinking with more drug usage.

My problem is I have a high alcohol tolerance. For me to feel loose and in the mood to dance, I need like 5-6 beers in me. I don't really wanna spend $50-60 when I go to Piknic..

I don't go to Piknic to get fucked out of my mind, throw up all over the place, and start fights either.. I'm talking about getting a little happy here.

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Originally posted by Ravemontreal So my answer is: Piknic is an outside, day time, family event. So it shouldn't be otherwise just so you can save a few bucks on a beer. And that if you drink moderatly and not like a fucking pig, then you shouldn't see such a huge difference on your wallet to have a few beers. It should be an overall sober day and they should also be much more strict on drug surveillance.

I think this is what we'll end up with. Stricter controls on booze and drugs and more alcohol revenue to boot. You clean it up and you keep the festival.

Drunkards are more annoying than the high folks anyways.

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Originally posted by Ravemontreal You see, when guys from Piknic started this thing, it was about spending a nice day outside and being able to bring your kids. Your answer is what stupid people made of it and what the event as become. And now that everybody doesn't know how to behave, then block out the families. Do a 18+ so people can get fucked up and save on beer. What about if that wasn't the first initial goal of this organization? I actually think it's a beautiful thing that kids and families can spend the day there. And that if you don't put the kid 3 feet away from the speaker, it's quite nice and you have all evening and all week-end to get fucked up in 100 different ways and place. And btw 2 guys making out is not worst or better than 2 straights making out. Were not in the 50's.

You have to ask yourself: realistically speaking, do you really think disallowing people to bring their own drinks is going to make Piknik more family friendly? Not a chance!

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Originally posted by Spin Laden I think this is what we'll end up with. Stricter controls on booze and drugs and more alcohol revenue to boot. You clean it up and you keep the festival. Drunkards are more annoying than the high folks anyways.

Maybe drunkards are more annoying to you, but ask the people who bring their kids to Piknik whether people who drink or people who do drugs are more annoying to them?

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Originally posted by The Highroller You have to ask yourself: realistically speaking, do you really think disallowing people to bring their own drinks is going to make Piknik more family friendly? Not a chance!

It'll make the music sound better

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Originally posted by The Highroller Maybe drunkards are more annoying to you, but ask the people who bring their kids to Piknik whether people who drink or people who do drugs are more annoying to them?

Times I've been I haven't really seen that many kids, at least in the mosh pit areas.

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Originally posted by Ravemontreal You see, when guys from Piknic started this thing, it was about spending a nice day outside and being able to bring your kids. ... What about if that wasn't the first initial goal of this organization? I actually think it's a beautiful thing that kids and families can spend the day there. And that if you don't put the kid 3 feet away from the speaker,

but who said that you are right about this? That this concept was a good idea from the getgo? Just check the comments in this thread!!

This has never been a family piknic even if that's what the organizers made it out so that they can get a permit.

Let's not kid ourselves here. EDM music + BYOB + drugs is far from being a family setting.

The crew has to assume it's initial choices and pisses off alot of their clientele or just change to a more honnest formula.

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Originally posted by malek Let's not kid ourselves here. EDM music + BYOB + drugs is far from being a family setting.

Totally right.

I can't understand how parents would take their children to this.

Going every Sunday is no longer an option. I'd spend more than twice of what I would've spend normally. 70$+ every weekend? ouch

like everyone said, lets wait till this press release so we have the real info

but as mentioned before, i think many people now will pick and choose to go to certain events, not make it a weekly or bi-weekly thing, most of the piknic crowd isnt your typical spending 80-100 bucks a day crowd

if this is a cash grab, i think its going to hurt them in the end, or if this is really about under-age drinking, then they have a point, but resolve it with 18+ not what they have in mind now

It should also be considered that this may be a non-negotiable condition of keeping their permit.

amen le grand Malek

This wont change much for me but I don't think it makes any sense either. They should definately make the switch to 18+ instead of banning BYOB. I think bringing your kids to hear Electronic Music is great but there isnt enough people doing it to matter. I see maybe 3 or 4 different kids when I go, to make it 18+ will be sad for a very small minority compared to banning BYOB which affects allmost everyone. Hopefully they have a good excuse for doing this, either way I usually buy my booze there so ill be ok.

if this is an issue about under age drinking, they should have had a contingency plan from the beginning. isnt piknik isolated with fence? while they check everyones booze can they not card people at the same time? call me an asshole. call me synnical but this is definately a cash grab. 84th ave is right about waiting for the press release but i think we all have preconceived notions. agreeing with everyone i will definately have to pick and choose which events i will go to from now on. i mean pre drinking is always an option but thats gay since we have to drive down from ottawa. lets just say their are going to be some expensive weekends this summer. taking into consideration what we do friday and saturday then having to drop 80 to 100 bucks at piknik.

too weak.

ya 80-100$....

for that i would rather go to beach club...at least theres T&A everywhere

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Originally posted by 84th Ave. ya 80-100$.... for that i would rather go to Kamasutra...at least theres T&A everywhere

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how about 18+ with NO booze NOR drugs (booze is a legal drug, btw).

Imagine then just how much more bad MSTRKRFT would sound?

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Originally posted by The Highroller It should also be considered that this may be a non-negotiable condition of keeping their permit.

from what i understand this is what's happenning. Trust me piknic is not about making the highest possible profit. They have always made compromises to make their product accessible to everyone. This is what they built their brand on...

Trust me, Piknics is not happy about this...but we have to pay now for minority who abused in the past....;-(

The piknic limits would still allow you to set up shop and drink your own booze while listening to the music just outside the perimeter: Down by the river or by the pond next to Parc Jean Drapeau. Of course, it's not the same as being inside but it's a small inconvenience.

If I had a choice, I would pay more and still allow BYOB. $20 entrance w/BYOB is better than same entrance ($10) and $5/beer inside.

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