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| Originally posted by Anas Attia The whole sound cannon thing needs to be resolved quick, because to me I take that as PHYSICAL ABUSE, just as a baton hit is considered physical abuse. People could argue left and right but at the end of the day my receptors (hair cells) are being physically damaged and the damage is permanent, where at least you can heal from a baton hit. |
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| Originally posted by Magnetonium Indeed, there are so many jokes and criticism of this stupid technology. As I said, government does so much with little impunity because noone gives a shit. This technology should be illegal because it is not safe for the public, it would violate so many rules and safeguards if it was sold commercially - product would be pulled before it hit the shelves. Its like they are using a WEAPON against the protestors, worse than tasers. For me, hearing is very important. |
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It appears toronto is more or less "shut down" for 3 or so days within the zone. (25th to 28th?)
Just a heads up to anyone in Toronto to avoid this area (DOWNTOWN) unless you are protesting. Really bad events could happen to someone who is just casually observing - they set up a "medical trailer" with treatment cells for detained individuals to avoid bringing people to emergency rooms. In addition to the potentially instantaneous hearing loss from sound cannons - if based on previous major protests, there could be much hurt and pain, even for bystandards. BEWARE. "PRIVATE SECURITY - personnel are being hired in addition to other governmental paramilitary type forces eg. OPP, RCMP etc..
http://www.thestar.com/staticcontent/810896
g20 ends the day the Queen starts her Canadian tour.
BTW they were still hiring last I knew for this, but maybe not.. security is getting like $25 an hour and medical is getting like $120/hour
IF THE RIOT ACT IS READ - arrest could warrant a life sentence.
SEE Section 67.
Her Majesty the Queen charges and commands all persons being assembled immediately to disperse and peaceably to depart to their habitations or their lawful business, on pain of being guilty of an offence for which, on conviction, they may be sentenced to an imprisonment for life. God Save the Queen!
Unlawful Assemblies and Riots
Unlawful assembly
63. (1) An unlawful assembly is an assembly of three or more persons who, with intent to carry out any common purpose, assemble in such a manner or so conduct themselves when they are assembled as to cause persons in the neighbourhood of the assembly to fear, on reasonable grounds, that they
(a) will disturb the peace tumultuously; or
(b) will by that assembly needlessly and without reasonable cause provoke other persons to disturb the peace tumultuously.
Lawful assembly becoming unlawful
(2) Persons who are lawfully assembled may become an unlawful assembly if they conduct themselves with a common purpose in a manner that would have made the assembly unlawful if they had assembled in that manner for that purpose.
Exception
(3) Persons are not unlawfully assembled by reason only that they are assembled to protect the dwelling-house of any one of them against persons who are threatening to break and enter it for the purpose of committing an indictable offence therein.
R.S., c. C-34, s. 64.
Riot
64. A riot is an unlawful assembly that has begun to disturb the peace tumultuously.
R.S., c. C-34, s. 65.
Punishment of rioter
65. Every one who takes part in a riot is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years.
R.S., c. C-34, s. 66.
Punishment for unlawful assembly
66. Every one who is a member of an unlawful assembly is guilty of an offence punishable on summary conviction.
R.S., c. C-34, s. 67.
Reading proclamation
67. A person who is
(a) a justice, mayor or sheriff, or the lawful deputy of a mayor or sheriff,
(b) a warden or deputy warden of a prison, or
(c) the institutional head of a penitentiary, as those expressions are defined in subsection 2(1) of the Corrections and Conditional Release Act, or that person�s deputy,
who receives notice that, at any place within the jurisdiction of the person, twelve or more persons are unlawfully and riotously assembled together shall go to that place and, after approaching as near as is safe, if the person is satisfied that a riot is in progress, shall command silence and thereupon make or cause to be made in a loud voice a proclamation in the following words or to the like effect:
Her Majesty the Queen charges and commands all persons being assembled immediately to disperse and peaceably to depart to their habitations or to their lawful business on the pain of being guilty of an offence for which, on conviction, they may be sentenced to imprisonment for life. GOD SAVE THE QUEEN.
R.S., 1985, c. C-46, s. 67; 1994, c. 44, s. 5.
Offences related to proclamation
68. Every one is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for life who
(a) opposes, hinders or assaults, wilfully and with force, a person who begins to make or is about to begin to make or is making the proclamation referred to in section 67 so that it is not made;
(b) does not peaceably disperse and depart from a place where the proclamation referred to in section 67 is made within thirty minutes after it is made; or
(c) does not depart from a place within thirty minutes when he has reasonable grounds to believe that the proclamation referred to in section 67 would have been made in that place if some person had not opposed, hindered or assaulted, wilfully and with force, a person who would have made it.
R.S., c. C-34, s. 69.
Neglect by peace officer
69. A peace officer who receives notice that there is a riot within his jurisdiction and, without reasonable excuse, fails to take all reasonable steps to suppress the riot is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding two years.
R.S., c. C-34, s. 70.
Use of force to suppress riot
32. (1) Every peace officer is justified in using or in ordering the use of as much force as the peace officer believes, in good faith and on reasonable grounds,
(a) is necessary to suppress a riot; and
(b) is not excessive, having regard to the danger to be apprehended from the continuance of the riot.
Person bound by military law
(2) Every one who is bound by military law to obey the command of his superior officer is justified in obeying any command given by his superior officer for the suppression of a riot unless the order is manifestly unlawful.
Obeying order of peace officer
(3) Every one is justified in obeying an order of a peace officer to use force to suppress a riot if
(a) he acts in good faith; and
(b) the order is not manifestly unlawful.
Apprehension of serious mischief
(4) Every one who, in good faith and on reasonable grounds, believes that serious mischief will result from a riot before it is possible to secure the attendance of a peace officer is justified in using as much force as he believes in good faith and on reasonable grounds,
(a) is necessary to suppress the riot; and
(b) is not excessive, having regard to the danger to be apprehended from the continuance of the riot.
Question of law
(5) For the purposes of this section, the question whether an order is manifestly unlawful or not is a question of law.
R.S., c. C-34, s. 32.
Duty of officers if rioters do not disperse
33. (1) Where the proclamation referred to in section 67 has been made or an offence against paragraph 68(a) or (b) has been committed, it is the duty of a peace officer and of a person who is lawfully required by him to assist, to disperse or to arrest persons who do not comply with the proclamation.
Protection of officers
(2) No civil or criminal proceedings lie against a peace officer or a person who is lawfully required by a peace officer to assist him in respect of any death or injury that by reason of resistance is caused as a result of the performance by the peace officer or that person of a duty that is imposed by subsection (1).
Section not restrictive
(3) Nothing in this section limits or affects any powers, duties or functions that are conferred or imposed by this Act with respect to the suppression of riots.
R.S., c. C-34, s. 33.
Self-induced Intoxication
When defence not available
33.1 (1) It is not a defence to an offence referred to in subsection (3) that the accused, by reason of self-induced intoxication, lacked the general intent or the voluntariness required to commit the offence, where the accused departed markedly from the standard of care as described in subsection (2).
Criminal fault by reason of intoxication
(2) For the purposes of this section, a person departs markedly from the standard of reasonable care generally recognized in Canadian society and is thereby criminally at fault where the person, while in a state of self-induced intoxication that renders the person unaware of, or incapable of consciously controlling, their behaviour, voluntarily or involuntarily interferes or threatens to interfere with the bodily integrity of another person.
Application
(3) This section applies in respect of an offence under this Act or any other Act of Parliament that includes as an element an assault or any other interference or threat of interference by a person with the bodily integrity of another person.
1995, c. 32, s. 1.
As far as the cost is concerned.
Outside infrastructure costs
about 400 Million is for the up to 10,000 RCMP officers contracted - of that 400 million somewhere around 150 million is for buying equipment. The total police and infrastucture costs such as housing units and utilities infrastruture build might well amount to about a third of the overall cost meaning. That the rest is being pumped into salaries (taxable incomes), flight costs (airlines), transportation, (action plan signs), etc..
Basically around a quarter of the money (1 cent of every tax dollar for the year) will go to to police and military equipment "not in the regular operating budget" of those parties.
The Queen's 2010 tour appears to be costing less than 10 million as far as I can tell. Ottawa costs are 3 million - the lt. governor house was remodeled (the bathroom only cost as much as 1 night in a hotel for charles and camilla - and the cash stays in public state on a property development instead of transfering to a third party - so tax payers shouldn't need to cry foul based on the spending - although one might question why a bathroom would costs $15,000 to remodel - but heck I'm sure lots of well to doers would consider 15,000 on their 3 million dollar home to be smidgings.) in Nova Scotia, not sure the total costs but it is nothing compared to this G8/G20 stuff.
These OMG figures such as olympics summits etc.. are just a forcast of the costs of the "withdrawl" from afghanstan (the withdrawl where only about half of the forces deployed will be removed, with the rest assigned to "non combat roles" although I have heard that this is just a rumor, I still have no absolute indication that the withdrawl plan actually includes a total personnel withdrawl - side point, but if anyone has seen reports on the withdrawl kindly let me know cause I still don't believe it) the plan has to start about now.
Good weekend for a bush party not near huntsville?
^ Great post. Thanks for the info.
News release on traffic closures (May 28)
Link
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| Parking From Friday, June 25, 2010 to Sunday, June 27, 2010, there will be heightened enforcement of parking in the downtown area, particularly for the area surrounded by Queen Street, Yonge Street, Lakeshore Boulevard and Spadina Avenue. All parking regulations for No Parking, No Standing and No Stopping will be strictly enforced. Vehicles may be tagged and/or towed. |
Updated Traffic Info -> Here
(What a HORRIBLE way to display all the closures/traffic detours...13 separate PDFs, lol)
My only question is will I be able to get to the Guv at 1030 Sat night without having to wait in traffic???
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| Originally posted by VDub My only question is will I be able to get to the Guv at 1030 Sat night without having to wait in traffic??? |
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| Originally posted by Jayx1 doubtful doubtful still is parking. not to mention u run the risk of your car being used as a burning barricade that weekend. |
PLEASE LEAVE THE FENCES ALONE
in an effort to recover some of the expenses paidout for security... we at the MTCC have decided to leave the Tags on the fences so that after the summit is over.... we can just return them to homedepot and get the taxpayers money back
Ridiculous!
Trees latest G20 security casualities
First it was trash cans, transit shelters and mailboxes. The latest casualty of G20 security concerns are saplings that line city sidewalks.
The trees could be ripped out of the ground by demonstrators �and then you�ve got a huge bar,� said Constable Wendy Drummond, a spokeswoman for the Integrated Security Unit. Despite promises from summit organizers to replace the trees once foreign leaders leave town on June 27, the move bewilders tree lovers.
�The idea that tearing down something that�s going to be living for 100 more years for a three-day meeting is insane,� said Mark Calzavara a spokesman for the Council of Canadians.
The trees will be removed from within the RCMP-controlled zone, which envelopes the Metro Toronto Convention Centre and the surrounding area. Organizers would not say which trees or how many will be hauled away.
�If they�re removing any trees, it�s because they don�t want folks to jump over and launch things from above,� said local city councillor Adam Vaughan.
Mr. Calzavara says the thought that a sapling could be turned into a weapon is �outrageous.�
�I would challenge the police to get a couple of burly officers and try to pull one of these trees out of the ground,� he said. �You�d need an axe to cut the thing down. And if you�ve already got an axe, you wouldn�t need a tree.�
Those poor innocent saplings. What did they do to deserve this bloodshed. Murderers!!!!
And as if all this isn't enough of an impact to the city... Uncle Sam warns its citizens to stay the hell away from Toronto during this time... gold!
G20 - what a win!
oops
http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/tor...ert-for-toronto
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| U.S. issues G20 travel alert for Toronto Peaceful demonstrations can turn �violent and unpredictable,� Washington warns Published On Fri Jun 18 2010 American tourist beware: Toronto has joined the U.S. State Department�s list of unsafe travel destinations, joining the ranks of gang-war-ravaged Jamaica and East Asia�s typhoon alley. Washington issued the travel alert for Americans who live in Toronto or plan to visit the city during the G20, warning that the summit will draw large numbers of protesters. �Even demonstrations that are meant to be peaceful can become violent and unpredictable. You should avoid them if at all possible,� the advisory said. The alert also advises U.S. citizens to forego travelling in or through downtown Toronto during the summit, anticipating �significant traffic disruption.� Toronto Mayor David Miller called the alert an �overreaction,� saying that while parts of downtown will be disrupted, other parts of the city will be unaffected by the June 26-27 summit. Protests and rallies are expected to begin the week leading up to the summit. On June 26, thousands are expected to turn out to the People First! march, but organizers have vowed that the event will be a peaceful, family affair. However, protest organizers have confirmed that numerous activists plan to splinter from the larger demonstration and continue a �militant� march to the security perimeter. Washington says the temporary travel alert expires June 28. The exclusive list of travel alerts includes just six countries and regions. Among them is Jamaica, where the capital city has become the battlefield between government forces and gangs. Also on the list is South Africa during the World Cup, where the State Department warns U.S. citizens could be exposed to terrorism, crime and public health risks. �Isn�t it ironic that the World Cup and the G20, two international gatherings by definition, have travel alerts?� said Andrew Weir of Tourism Toronto. This is only the third time in recent history that Toronto has been brushed with a travel alert. In 2003, the World Health Organization issued travel advisories after several cases of SARS were diagnosed in the city. Less authoritatively, the San Francisco Chronicle published a warning to Toronto-bound Americans about garbage piling up during the municipal strike in 2009. In other G20 news: � The Toronto Police union is calling for Sid Ryan to resign after the labour leader suggested police may plant agents provocateurs among the G20 protesters to incite violence. Mike McCormack, president of the Toronto Police Association, denounced Ryan�s comments that police could use disguised agents to cause chaos in order to provoke a violent response from security forces as �irresponsible, inflammatory and idiotic.� Ryan said he laughed at McCormack�s comments. �Police have used agents provocateurs in the past and we think it�s a possibility they could be used here. I raised the spectre.� � The Hester How Daycare Centre inside City Hall will be closed during from June 24-27 for safety reasons, a notice to the parents said. �The RCMP and Toronto police have strongly recommended that children should not travel through the downtown core on those days due to potential violence.� � The Toronto Community Mobilization Network unveiled its new �convergence space� on Queen St. W. for protesters to gather, share ideas, grab some food and hang out during the summit. |
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| Originally posted by jon jon http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/tor...ert-for-toronto |
Money well wasted.
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| Originally posted by hardcore trancer Money well wasted. |
I think the US is right on....I would warn my citizens to stay away from Toronto to. Hell, I suggest anyone who works anywhere close to downtown take the week off....its going to be hell in toronto
I got a memo from work today regarding the G8/G20. Mississauga Transit has 2 route that service the Pearson Airport infield where all the VIP's and Celebraties are escorted away, (they dont usually go throught the main terminals). Routes 57 and 59 will both have heavily armed military and police officers onboard. They will check the passes of every rider on the bus from the start to the finish of the route on top of the security posts on the Brittania and Courtney Park entrances to the infield. There will also be check points set up throughout the infield itself, and when a convoy is departing or arriving, the traffic in the infield will be closed all together causing massive delays.
So glad so few people can disrupt the lives of so many. I would laugh so hard at the government for wasting all this time and money if there was no violence whatsoever, it would really make them look foolish.
I hope there's not a repeat of the UK subway bombings over here like it happened during their summit.
You guys are WAY TOO PARANOID about this whole thing.
Since I live out in Mississauga I'm not even going to attempt to make it into the city Fri, Sat, or Sun of next weekend. It'll be my first time not going out in many weeks.
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