Well you can say a lot of things but Anjunabeats/Anjunadeep are one of the very few labels holding on to what they believe in
Posted by Beatflux on Aug-27-2010 17:15:
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Originally posted by JEO
I've seen so many shit attempts from even known artists to sound "original". "I'm not trance.. I'm not house.. I'm not minimal.. I'm *artist name*, genres can't define me!" And still failing at it, or sounding extremely idiotic with fucking chromatic scale bleep bloops and no actual musical content at all. Just drums and blipblops saying "I am so original" through the speakers. That's the other end of it, and I hate it too.
The genre switch is usually just as cliche. I can't think of any artists off the top of my head that made better music after a switch. Maybe someone else does?
Posted by JEO on Aug-27-2010 19:02:
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Originally posted by Storyteller
Well you can say a lot of things but Anjunabeats/Anjunadeep are one of the very few labels holding on to what they believe in
Well don't get stuck on it. I know nothing about Anjuna and maybe shouldn't even talk about it, then I got to thinking you might even clarify what you are referring to with your post.
I said it solely because I saw the anjuna logo on many of the songs in the video by the op.
Posted by owien on Aug-27-2010 19:40:
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Originally posted by JEO
All of a sudden everyone seems to agree that almost everything has already been done. So it's time to turn to music theory 2.0 since all possible chord progressions have been turned to plucked arpeggios already? I would like to get a list having every classic trance track that has occupied these chord progressions, melodies, everything.
I expect it by this evening +2 gmt so I can start checking and memorizing the melodies that I can't use anymore, since they have been used already.
Anjunabeats signing 59 tracks that sound the same is one thing, but hey..
because its all about what works and what people want to hear hence why shit sounds the same
Posted by Looney4Clooney on Aug-27-2010 19:47:
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Originally posted by Beatflux
The genre switch is usually just as cliche. I can't think of any artists off the top of my head that made better music after a switch. Maybe someone else does?
scot project's style has slightly shifted and he is still unique and extremely good.
Posted by MrJiveBoJingles on Aug-27-2010 20:02:
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Originally posted by Beatflux
The genre switch is usually just as cliche. I can't think of any artists off the top of my head that made better music after a switch. Maybe someone else does?
I think many genre switches are the result of not-so-creative producers trying to hop on to the latest trend in order to stay in the cool kids club and keep selling records.
Posted by Looney4Clooney on Aug-27-2010 21:01:
yup
difference between genre hopping trying to catch the tail end of a trend and artists that just explore beyond their current genre and incorporate new elements into their craft.
Posted by Rodri Santos on Aug-27-2010 21:27:
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Originally posted by Mad for Brad
scot project's style has slightly shifted and he is still unique and extremely good.
Scot Project it's quite good in my opinion too, he was more like a hard trancer now more techy but his remixes of Global Code and Hartseer are awesome O.O
I think Sander van Doorn is original, he tries new sounds, new structures, melodies.... very underated as a producer, not really my taste but i have to recognize who is god at it.
Uplifting Trance is all the same... well Armada + Anjunabeats = 50% of the Trance industry right now and they sign crap after crap. Anjunabeats rejected the Florescence EP by Andy Blueman, which wasn't his best EP but wow Blueman makes Classical music and Trance blend together in a way very few people have achieved... While they sign tracks that you can listen and don't notice that the song has ended because it's bloody boring.
A good uplifting label is Blue Soho, i have lost the track of his releases this summer but looked more for the music than for the name... not very original tracks but at least where enjoyable.
Looking on my recent tracks i think this one is pretty original
The structure is the same, but has some unfrequent sounds that are always welcome
Posted by Storyteller on Aug-27-2010 21:46:
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Originally posted by JEO
Well don't get stuck on it. I know nothing about Anjuna and maybe shouldn't even talk about it, then I got to thinking you might even clarify what you are referring to with your post.
I said it solely because I saw the anjuna logo on many of the songs in the video by the op.
The tracks this label puts out might not be original every time. But the particular sound of the anjunabeats/anjunadeep is highly recognisable (and copied by numerous artists due to it's success). They're one of the few that aren't selling out and starting tons of sublabels just to maintain a certain income. The production quality is usually very high. Tons of big labels are taking on more and more artists and lowering the (quality) standards they have as they want to put out as much as possible because they otherwise wouldn't earn enough anymore. What I respect about Anjunabeats/deep specifically is that they seem to the opposite of what is the trend now, they hold on to that what defined them and do it well.
Posted by DJ RANN on Aug-27-2010 22:20:
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Originally posted by Storyteller
The tracks this label puts out might not be original every time. But the particular sound of the anjunabeats/anjunadeep is highly recognisable (and copied by numerous artists due to it's success). They're one of the few that aren't selling out and starting tons of sublabels just to maintain a certain income. The production quality is usually very high. Tons of big labels are taking on more and more artists and lowering the (quality) standards they have as they want to put out as much as possible because they otherwise wouldn't earn enough anymore. What I respect about Anjunabeats/deep specifically is that they seem to the opposite of what is the trend now, they hold on to that what defined them and do it well.
I have to agree - even though not all of their output is my favourite stuff (I do like a fair bit of it though) their sound is clearly recognisable without having gone down the path of deliberately carving a cheesey signature for the sole sake of being instantly identifiable (like so many DJ's do these days).
However there is a difference between changing styles to be cool and changing styles to pioneer something.
For example, Fergie, was at one point, the pinup boy for hardhouse (which even at that point was a a serious bastardisation to what I knew as "hard house" but that's another thread) and he switched to techno, as he says for two main reasons: he didn't like where hard house was going, and thought some of the new Techno had a place in the mainstream (and not just being this stigmatic geek or drug only EDM thing).
He had a point - Hard house died in it's then present form and at that point techno (some of the slower and funky stuff) began really evolved into something new and interesting.
All uplifting trance does sound the same in the most part, but that's becuase people aren't thinking outside the box.
It's all about perspective though - I find it funny that everyone is posting links to ferry costen tracks and doing the "if only it was still like this" - Out of the Blue is one of the tracks that I consider killed dance music as I knew it.
I'm like where the fuck is Blue Amazon, Jayne Hannah and Way Out West? They really made music that doesn't sound the same.....
Posted by tehlord on Aug-27-2010 22:36:
I have no idea what genre I make. I'm that cool.
Posted by owien on Aug-27-2010 23:16:
hmm liking that ferry corsten track somthing a bit fresh
Posted by cryophonik on Aug-28-2010 00:16:
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Originally posted by tehlord
I have no idea what genre I make. I'm that cool.
I have no idea what genre anyone makes. I'm that clueless.
Posted by DJ RANN on Aug-28-2010 01:41:
I have no idea. I'm that clueless.
Posted by Stephen Wiley on Aug-28-2010 02:39:
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Posted by tehlord on Aug-28-2010 09:16:
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Originally posted by Stephen Wiley
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Aha, cool AND ambivalant. We have a winner.
Posted by JEO on Aug-28-2010 16:50:
Does anyone of you listen to chiptunes or the like?
I love them. Such a great getaway from basic edm.
np. She - Supersonic
Posted by Beyer on Aug-28-2010 17:19:
Airbase, Orjan Nilsen, Signum.. All great producers of uplifting stuff
and original at it, if I might say As long as it gets my heart racing, it�s all good.
I don�t care much for snobbery.
Posted by Kysora on Aug-28-2010 18:20:
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Originally posted by JEO
Does anyone of you listen to chiptunes or the like?
I love them. Such a great getaway from basic edm.
Chiptune is awesome, some of the stuff some people can make with such a limited set of sounds blows me away. aa.kurtz is fucking incredible.
Posted by Owsey on Aug-28-2010 18:58:
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Originally posted by JEO
Does anyone of you listen to chiptunes or the like?
I love them. Such a great getaway from basic edm.
np. She - Supersonic
Hell yeah. Malmen, Elwood, Radix/Mosaik have really stood out from the majority of chiptune artists I've came across. There's a feel good trait to the genre.
Posted by 4everX on Aug-29-2010 00:42:
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Originally posted by Storyteller
The tracks this label puts out might not be original every time. But the particular sound of the anjunabeats/anjunadeep is highly recognisable (and copied by numerous artists due to it's success). They're one of the few that aren't selling out and starting tons of sublabels just to maintain a certain income. The production quality is usually very high. Tons of big labels are taking on more and more artists and lowering the (quality) standards they have as they want to put out as much as possible because they otherwise wouldn't earn enough anymore. What I respect about Anjunabeats/deep specifically is that they seem to the opposite of what is the trend now, they hold on to that what defined them and do it well.
man i know a lot of talents around here, they really have potential, they have the right styles for change, but they do not sign cause anjunacheese or anything else just think about your name and don't listen at other tracks; yea they sign often very good stuff but always the same shit; trust me there are a lot of undiscover good producer around the world and they simply ignore that; this is why EDM is going shit...
Posted by Rodri Santos on Aug-29-2010 13:04:
Airbase is so cool, i vote for him always on the djmag but he rarely produces right now :S he has an album to be released but i think he has been on duties for almost 3 years... either is awesome or he hasn't found any label to release it, something that in this sad industry could happen