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Originally posted by Notle I bought ableton livea about month ago and this is my first project with it. you can listen whole track here and please give some feedback: http://soundcloud.com/hanselhousemu...am-original-mix

Nice tune!

Your break doesn't come to a full stop, it doesn't relax completely. Take out some of those bits of percussion so you get that sunken feeling, then when the song comes back it hits harder. You could even make it a bit longer.

Cut the main section at the end in half. There's nothing new in it, so there is no good reason to replay it for that long. You want people wanting more, not loathing more. Fill the cut out half with a build up to the outro.

Just my 2 cents.

man live is ugly as hell.

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Originally posted by Mad for Brad man live is ugly as hell.

Tell me about it. The arrange view reminds me of protools through a shitty videocard.

btw, what was your project? 2-step jazz score?

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Originally posted by Mad for Brad man live is ugly as hell.

It really, really is - I don't even want to use it because it's just so terrible to look at, like a plastic toy. And awkward to use.

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Originally posted by DJ RANN Tell me about it. The arrange view reminds me of protools through a shitty videocard. btw, what was your project? 2-step jazz score?

the intro cue to an episode, it starts off kinda off inspector like then sort of breaks into a more comedy styled score with traditional orchestra and string plucks and the like. The actual intro you heard kinda builds until the person gets hit by a bike. Pretty sure you've seen it in tv. Its a pretty common thing they do now. Impose a certain feeling that isn't correct and then when you realize this isn't anything serious and the music goes back to normal, its sort of funny. I synced the horn hits to the times he looks at his watch, the camera changes and a few other things happening in the video.

it is neat tho as TV demands a more upfront lighter touch and the hollywood sound doesn't work. Unfortunately alot of people don't seem to realize that so you get half assed muddy orchestrations that just don't fit the relatively sparse canvas of the drama. Well compared to lets say inception. I've been really listening to alot of oldschool goldsmith as he tends to orchestrate very light. Also I suppose Prokofiev who also did alot with little.

What I am starting to do with Logic is make icons! I love making my logic look sexy.

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Originally posted by Dj_Kile definitely interesting and technically well put together , i'm most certain that if you tried to milk more energy out of the main riff you'll have stormer , you're main riff is a killer

Thanks alot mate, ill try to put some more energy some how, maybe extra percussion or extra lead.

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Originally posted by Beatflux Nice tune! Your break doesn't come to a full stop, it doesn't relax completely. Take out some of those bits of percussion so you get that sunken feeling, then when the song comes back it hits harder. You could even make it a bit longer. Cut the main section at the end in half. There's nothing new in it, so there is no good reason to replay it for that long. You want people wanting more, not loathing more. Fill the cut out half with a build up to the outro. Just my 2 cents.

Thanks alot man, very good feedback. I did already a new version without the percs in breakdown and cutting the end, and other polishing. I will upload it soon to soundcloud.
Thanks again mate! Very much appreciated!

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Ableton is ugly

One of the reasons i bought it because i find it so damn sexy I also have logic, but i find ableton so much creative to work with. Workflow is not so fast yet but maybe soon...

live is ugly, but fl studio is the ugliest imo

I feel like they didn't even try. Reaper looks better.

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Originally posted by Notle I bought ableton livea about month ago and this is my first project with it. you can listen whole track here and please give some feedback: http://soundcloud.com/hanselhousemu...am-original-mix

you should expand those clips not duplicate them. ableton uses different data pointers if you duplicate that track because you can change it (ie pitch, volume, etc). and eventually if you freeze it or render it down it's incredibly hard on your HD & RAM. you can hit the "lock" button on the top right and expand all the blocks that are the same throughout the track.

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Originally posted by Zombie0729 you should expand those clips not duplicate them. ableton uses different data pointers if you duplicate that track because you can change it (ie pitch, volume, etc). and eventually if you freeze it or render it down it's incredibly hard on your HD & RAM. you can hit the "lock" button on the top right and expand all the blocks that are the same throughout the track.

It's not on any decent new system. Live is loop based primarily, you can expand or not. It doesn't make any major difference at the end of the day in most cases. I think it's about what works best for the individual so everyone uses it in a different way. It's so simple to select what you need and just "ctrl+d".

As for Live's looks, it was never designed to be a sequencer at first. It was designed for Live use so the minimal look is quite appropriate.
I just wish they would give us proper multi screen support already and modular windows

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Originally posted by Zombie0729 you should expand those clips not duplicate them. ableton uses different data pointers if you duplicate that track because you can change it (ie pitch, volume, etc). and eventually if you freeze it or render it down it's incredibly hard on your HD & RAM. you can hit the "lock" button on the top right and expand all the blocks that are the same throughout the track.

How do you mean expand?

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Originally posted by music2dance2 How do you mean expand?

so on his example the SC trigger is made up of like 25 different copies of the SC trigger. Ableton sets aside different data points for that because each of those could be altered. I highly doubt he's automating anything INSIDE the audio/mid clip so it be best to drag it out over the entire lenght of the track so it's just 1 data point for ableton to reference (this is assuming it's audio).


his project is actually pretty clean and he makes good use of condjoined clips but some peoples projects that drop sounds in and never consolidate is where you run into HD/RAM & Cpu issues.

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Originally posted by Zombie0729 so on his example the SC trigger is made up of like 25 different copies of the SC trigger. Ableton sets aside different data points for that because each of those could be altered. I highly doubt he's automating anything INSIDE the audio/mid clip so it be best to drag it out over the entire lenght of the track so it's just 1 data point for ableton to reference (this is assuming it's audio). his project is actually pretty clean and he makes good use of condjoined clips but some peoples projects that drop sounds in and never consolidate is where you run into HD/RAM & Cpu issues.

I see, any help to reduce cpu & ram load is good to know. Thanks

Does ableton run better with multi-core machines? The latest version of Ableton?

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Originally posted by Zombie0729 you should expand those clips not duplicate them. ableton uses different data pointers if you duplicate that track because you can change it (ie pitch, volume, etc). and eventually if you freeze it or render it down it's incredibly hard on your HD & RAM. you can hit the "lock" button on the top right and expand all the blocks that are the same throughout the track.

I dont quite get it what you are saying, is there a youtube video to explain this or something?

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