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Posted by ChemEnhanced on Nov-04-2010 16:21:

quote:
Originally posted by randallpink
dude why don't you just relax and just wait it out and see what happens. i mean seriously, I thought I was a a cynical person.....


I'm very relaxed...shit I just spent two weeks cruising the Caribbean. I see no problem in having a healthy discussion on whether or not a club in KW will continue with a House/EDM night long term.


Posted by Endlesswave on Nov-04-2010 16:23:

quote:
Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
And that has been my real issue this whole time. Its not that the club will survive....I'm sure it will....but will they continue with a dedicated House or EDM night.


It's one night. If you do say 70% top 40 nights then the 30% EDM nights it won't be that bad at all.

quote:
Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
I'm very relaxed...shit I just spent two weeks cruising the Caribbean. I see no problem in having a healthy discussion on whether or not a club in KW will continue with a House/EDM night long term.


Fair enough but all we notice on here is your cynicism which sometimes can be healthy but if it's all we ever see you type it can get very tiring.


Posted by ChemEnhanced on Nov-04-2010 16:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Endlesswave
Fair enough but all we notice on here is your cynicism which sometimes can be healthy but if it's all we ever see you type it can get very tiring.


Fair enough but I think some people on here only see what they want to see and fail to see the positive things that I've said.


Posted by Endlesswave on Nov-04-2010 16:46:

quote:
Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
Fair enough but I think some people on here only see what they want to see and fail to see the positive things that I've said.



I'd say it's that PLUS it's hard to see your positives when a LOT of what you post is cynical IMO.


Btw, anyone here going to Dj shadow at the Phoenix? FLOORED when I saw this...


Posted by ChemEnhanced on Nov-04-2010 16:51:

quote:
Originally posted by Endlesswave
I'd say it's that PLUS it's hard to see your positives when a LOT of what you post is cynical IMO.


Btw, anyone here going to Dj shadow at the Phoenix? FLOORED when I saw this...


I haven't been to Phoenix in I don't know how long...DJ Shadow you say....hmmmm.


Posted by jpoechman on Nov-04-2010 17:45:

quote:
Originally posted by ChemEnhanced

You have about 20,000 people in the 19-30 age range that live in the KW area...


quote:
Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
...just as long as any EDM club in Walkerton...but at least we can drink the water here

even if the estimate is actually off its not off by much when you are looking at an age group of about 6 years.


Getting sick of this guy??? He bashes Walkerton's water and then after bringing up a point of the 19-30 age range, he backtracks to say a range of 6 years.

Buddy, you're 36, I'm 34 and we still go to clubs so don't you think your numbers are a little off?

If 19 - 36 year olds attend BETA, it should do just fine... summertime or not.


Posted by *~LiSa-LoO~* on Nov-04-2010 17:52:

quote:
Originally posted by Abercrombie
BBR has the Detroit market too... HUGE advantage in staying afloat all year 'round.

When I went there once, there were a lot of Americans from Detroit that I met, that go because they are of age in Canada, but not the US. They can get shitfaced legally 2 years earlier in Ontario.


Very true.


Posted by randallpink on Nov-04-2010 18:01:

lol this guy is unreal (chemenhanced). okay buddy, you keep doing what your doing


Posted by ChemEnhanced on Nov-04-2010 18:04:

if you don't like me....simple answer....put me on your ignore list....it will make us all happier.


Posted by randallpink on Nov-04-2010 18:06:

but then how would i know what posts everyone is complaining about?


Posted by randallpink on Nov-04-2010 18:09:

on a different note, i think having aleksandra spin alongside christina cruise and sydney blu would be sick! three unbelievable women dj's in one night!!


Posted by ChemEnhanced on Nov-04-2010 18:10:

sorry I couldn't hear you...the ignore button was stuck in my ear.


Posted by ChemEnhanced on Nov-04-2010 18:11:


Posted by randallpink on Nov-04-2010 18:16:

quote:
Originally posted by ChemEnhanced
sorry I couldn't hear you...the ignore button was stuck in my ear.



haha easy there patrick roy


Posted by Moral Hazard on Nov-04-2010 18:18:

Chem's being a dick... but chances are he's right. I hope he's not (okay, I actually don't care one way or another) but probability is any club in any city is going to fail; let alone a night playing a particular genre of music in this particular city. He's also right that other then the Purple room no EDM night has lasted more then two years in K-Dub. Negative; yes, inaccurate; no.

Again though... I wish you well.


Posted by ChemEnhanced on Nov-04-2010 18:32:

quote:
Originally posted by randallpink
lol this guy is unreal (chemenhanced). okay buddy, you keep doing what your doing


you might think I'm being cynical...and you would be right but that doesn't mean I'm wrong....history has shown that I'm most likely right. How many times are you going to touch a fence and get electrocuted before you stop touching the fence.


Posted by jpoechman on Nov-04-2010 18:33:

quote:
Originally posted by randallpink
on a different note, i think having aleksandra spin alongside christina cruise and sydney blu would be sick! three unbelievable women dj's in one night!!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbTf...player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUk3Uy2KA7k


Agreed "randallpink", Christina and Sydney love the crowd... can't wait for the 27th!!!


Posted by ChemEnhanced on Nov-04-2010 18:34:

quote:
Originally posted by Moral Hazard
Chem's being a dick... but chances are he's right. I hope he's not (okay, I actually don't care one way or another) but probability is any club in any city is going to fail; let alone a night playing a particular genre of music in this particular city. He's also right that other then the Purple room no EDM night has lasted more then two years in K-Dub. Negative; yes, inaccurate; no.

Again though... I wish you well.


the reason purple room survives is because it is supported by the two other bars there. The purple room also only needs 50 people in it to make it look happening.


Posted by VERTiG0 on Nov-04-2010 20:27:

I love the Purple Room. In the 6 years I've been going I have never, ever had anything less than a great time.


Posted by Beta on Nov-04-2010 20:34:

This is entertaining

BTW, Tabu before the fire averaged 800-950 through the door EVERY FRIDAY AND SATURDAY (with the exception of xmas day and a snow storm day) and if you added in 140 west they averaged about 2500 people a weekend. If you were there you would have seen that.

Beta will be a destination spot. People will travel in from lots of surrounding areas. This is not a regular nightclub. I guess you will have to see when it is up and running. A large part of our Saturday market is the tri-cities and surrounding areas sick of driving to Toronto paying $15-$20 for parking $15-$20 to get into a venue for the same experience over and over again.

Never the less in respect to the summer months, give you an idea of the busiest months in order of revenue for Waterloo in 2009.

1) September
2) August
3) January
4) July
5) October
6) February

worst month is December.

Summer is a great time to separate yourself from the competition. Most places don't do well because they are not nightclubs in the area. They ARE DARK rooms that throw a couple lights up and hire the cheapest DJ they can get for a night. They do not attempt any marketing nor listen to what people want. If all else fails they lower drink prices and hope for the best. If they really get desperate they sign up for a live to air and dish out 3k while doing $2.50 drinks.

Furthermore, there is no fine line in this business of making money. You either make really good money or you haemorrhage money.

BTW, REV does over 3000 people a weekend now.

I had the pleasure of seeing Calvin Harris play last night infront of 550 people on A WEDNESDAY night with a $30 ticket price at a venue that didn't earn any respect. The scene is there, it needs a venue to find the right combination of DJs, promotion.

FYI - Steve Angello is 75% sold out and the date is 2 weeks out and noone has ever seen the venue.

We are building a WORLD CLASS venue. When you walk in you will know your in something different. So yeah I think people will come down from Milton, London, Guelph, Cambridge, Hamilton to go to a venue that blows 99% of venues in the area away and asks you to pay $5 to see DJs such as Wally Lopez, Glenn Morrison, Sdyney Blu, Deko-ze, Manzone & Strong, and SOOO MANY MORE COMING.


Posted by VERTiG0 on Nov-04-2010 20:36:

Well Beta dudes, I gotta say I'm pumped to check it out.


Posted by Beta on Nov-04-2010 20:36:

I am going to do something special for my TRANCEADDICT friends.

I am going to do my best to bring in one of your Top 10 DJS on the 250 poll and offer all members FREE cover. We want you to give BETA a chance and want you to know we know what we are doing.

Thank-you for all your support.


Posted by hardcore trancer on Nov-04-2010 20:38:

quote:
Originally posted by Beta
Wally Lopez, Glenn Morrison, Sdyney Blu, Deko-ze, Manzone & Strong, and SOOO MANY MORE COMING.


Good to see that at least you guys arent going with the usual Dj's and trying something different for once.. oh wait


Posted by Beta on Nov-04-2010 20:43:

Such a shame of a lineup with a $5 cover attached. Maybe we should have added in Sander or Gareth. WALK BEFORE YOU RUN!!!! This is not footwork or circus in Montreal. So yeah the obvious DJs might be a good platform to grow the scene.

quote:
Originally posted by hardcore trancer
Good to see that at least you guys arent going with the usual Dj's and trying something different for once.. oh wait


Posted by Endlesswave on Nov-04-2010 20:44:

quote:
Originally posted by Beta
I am going to do something special for my TRANCEADDICT friends.

I am going to do my best to bring in one of your Top 10 DJS on the 250 poll and offer all members FREE cover. We want you to give BETA a chance and want you to know we know what we are doing.

Thank-you for all your support.


I'd honestly be down, I mean it's something different.


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