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| Originally posted by srussell0018 Why is it? It seems pretty hard for me to think of any possible explanation for hating 300 million people simply for living in the same geographical area. I completely understand hatred towards the government, or various individuals in the government or public sector, but it's getting pretty fucking annoying constantly seeing people hating on other people simply for the fact that they are American. What you're doing is literally no different at all from people that hate black people because they're black. Somebody please enlighten me as to when 300 million people all became the exact same type of person. Is hating Americans the fashionable thing to do? Do you really have nothing more clever to say than to insult a person based on the country they live in (like they had any choice where they were born anyway)? I really don't understand it. |
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| Originally posted by Trevort Oirish thread. Not really just some yanks trying to be Irish as they dont have any real national identity or culture. Um...not trying to be Irish or anything |
The lack of organic national culture is one of the good things about America.
We are a proposition country, basing national feeling around relatively stable political ideals and founding documents, rather than stupid romanticism about blood and soil that has gotten Europe in trouble so many times.
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| Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles The lack of organic national culture is one of the good things about America. We are a proposition country, basing national feeling around relatively stable political ideals and founding documents, rather than stupid romanticism about blood and soil that has gotten Europe in trouble so many times. |
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| Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN I don�t know anyone who �hates america� that doesn�t wear a tea-towel. |
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| Originally posted by Trevort Yeah cos the Iraq war worked so well for the respective parties |
Well that was a topical post if I ever saw one.
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| Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles Are you trying to address what I said, or just posting whatever mental flatulence bubbles up inside of you? |
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| Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles Are you trying to address what I said, or just posting whatever mental flatulence bubbles up inside of you? |
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| Originally posted by Trevort Yet you boys give us a spiel about how you are protecting us when really we are protecting you lot as you guys were either too thick, insane or naive. |
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| Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles I have never given you or anyone else such a "spiel." Done posting irrelevancy yet? |
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| Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles The lack of organic national culture is one of the good things about America. We are a proposition country, basing national feeling around relatively stable political ideals and founding documents, rather than stupid romanticism about blood and soil that has gotten Europe in trouble so many times. |
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| Originally posted by EgosXII that's probably why the US is so dangerous though |
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| Is that really true about putting race aside? The divide between races in the US is far wider than in a lot of other colonial states (Like Austrailer)-- Its definitely not as rigid as most historical states though, but there seems to be definite racial/etchnic group divides within communities from what i've seen (this is a question, not a statement, so do enlighten me |
I'm one of those Americans who despises what the government is currently doing. Watching them shrink the middle class, cutting education and social services, all the while maintaining the two wars in the Middle East. It feels more like an Empire these days pretending to be a democracy, all the while more people die and more jobs are being lost to the economy. I also hate plenty of my countrymen, including the cast of Jersey Shore, Republicans, Christian fundamentalists, and vegans with a holier than thou attitude.
Oh and this too is just shameful.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/4057231..._news-americas/
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| Mexican cartels are taking advantage of U.S. gun laws to buy thousands of weapons that are being used in an escalating drug war that has claimed more than 31,000 lives since late 2006, experts and law enforcement officials tell NBC News. U.S. firearms agents estimate that around 80 percent of the weapons used by Mexican drug traffickers come from the United States, where cartel leaders are hiring Americans with clean records to make the purchases for them. In the past four years, Mexican authorities say they have seized 90,000 weapons from their nation's drug war. "The cartels need their tools of the trade, which are the weapons, and they are coming to the U.S. to get those weapons," William McMahon of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives told NBC News. Authorities say the straw buyers are paid up to $200 per weapon and cite a recent case in Oklahoma City, where a former state narcotics agent pleaded guilty in such a gunrunning scheme. Francisco Reyes, 29, was accused of paying two friends to buy dozens of firearms destined for Mexico, according to court documents. One of those buyers, Jorge Alexis Blanco, bought at least 15 guns and attempted to buy three more, according to Michael Randall of the ATF in the criminal complaint. "They are being taken advantage of by these cartels and really are providing something that's going be used to kill someone in Mexico," said McMahon, adding that the cartels are specifically looking for high-caliber weapons. 'Acapulco Police Massacre' Authorities say they have no doubts that weapon purchases are being used to fuel the violence in Mexico, including a recent case known as the "Acapulco Police Massacre," in which four officers and three secretaries were murdered. Guns used in that and other cases were traced to Houston. Overall, the Southwest border states, especially Texas, California and Arizona, are the primary sources of weapons used by the cartels in Mexico, where buying guns is much more difficult than in the U.S., according to the Department of Justice. Story: Mexico�s �war next door� linked directly to United States In 2009, ATF reported to Congress that about 90 percent of the guns recovered in Mexico that ATF has traced were initially sold in the United States. However, the National Rifle Association has said the percentage is much lower. In smuggling weapons across the border, experts say, the guns are usually hidden in cars and trucks. "They'll hide them in secret compartments, whether it's a spare tire, a gas tank, camper shells or they even build secret compartments to put them in there," said Rick Serrano, an ATF supervisor in Tucson, Ariz. In Texas, authorities arrested Ernesto Gonzalez-Reyes, 48, in March alleging they found five 7.62mm semiautomatic rifles, 10 high-capacity 7.62mm magazines and 50 rounds of .40-caliber ammunition hidden within the cargo area panels and the front and rear bumpers of the Chevrolet Suburban he was driving. 'Not going to honest American hands' During his visit to the United States in May, Mexican President Felipe Calderon urged a joint session of Congress to ban assault weapons that are showing up in his country. Calderon said the U.S. need to "regulate the sale of these weapons in the right way." "Many of these guns are not going to honest American hands," he said. "Instead, thousands are ending up in the hands of criminals." Although U.S. officials say they have recently seized more than 10,000 weapons headed for Mexico, Mexican authorities say more work needs to be done to stem the flow, including better use of a gun-tracing program known as eTrace. That program was announced in Mexico in January 2008 as the cornerstone of efforts to "terminate the illegal shipment of arms to Mexico and reduce the violence they cause on both sides of the border." But a recent inspector general's preliminary report, first publicized in October, called eTrace underused and unsuccessful. One top official said not enough Mexican investigators had been trained or had access to the electronic database. "It doesn't mean the system is not working. It's not working as well as it can," ATF Deputy Director Kenneth Melson told The Associated Press in October. "The information was being submitted by people who didn't know how to trace guns." Melson said the system, when used properly, can provide strategic and intelligence information to fight gun-smuggling, establishing trafficking patterns as well as identifying weapons sources. "We're now at a point where we can process much more information quickly, information that will be more accurate and more complete," Melson said. 'Iron River' But finding a way to stop the weapons flow, now known as the "Iron River," is being hindered to some extent by U.S. gun laws, officials say. In November, the inspector general of the Department of Justice detailed the problem, citing the lack of a federal statute specifically prohibiting firearms trafficking. Meanwhile, Mexican authorities are taking steps to ensure the weapons that are seized don't find their way back to the cartels. At a military base, in Mexico City, soldiers use torches and hammers to destroy thousands of guns, saving others for evidence in criminal investigations. |
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| Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles Dangerous compared to nations with serious outbreak of blood and soil ideology? WWII-era Germany, Italy, Japan? Not really. Certainly it is far from perfect here, and this is because America is not really a complete "proposition nation," but a mixture of that tendency with holdovers based around imperialism and ethnocentrism. The mental baggage that the colonists carried over here from Europe and never entirely gave up, ya know. But still, I think things are getting better over time. |
the ways states try and connect races is always interesting...
The US is definitely one of the friendlier, generous countries I've visited and I've been to quite a few. Wont say 'average american' as a definition is a good one as they like to be individuals despite any social associations they have and I admire people that are at least self reliant and independent. Majority of the middle class and professionals are also very hard working and productive, for what that's worth.
It's probably an unfair comment that they're xenophobic, ignorant and not very worldly, that's fairly much everywhere you travel you'll meet people like that. Difference is an American will integrate to some extent and go to the trouble of learning enough about where they are not to stick out too much, unlike say the Chinese who hands down are probably some of the densest, clueless bastards you're likely to meet as they have no social integration with the outside world. You think US media and education is bad? Go to China, they know nothing of other cultures or countries!
Only half of them are fat bastards, like most of the westernised world brought up on too much sugar 
I have big problems with the way the US government behaves outside its backyard and in other countries, they're condescending, closed minded and in reality, no better than any of the colonial countries or communists that came before them from overseas.
They prop up aggressive governments
They sell them dirt cheap armaments
They DONT provide developing countries with the necessary means to educate, feed and encourage any level self sufficiency beyond a meagre hand to mouth dolling out of charity. A lot of which gets stolen along the way.
They encourage and conduct warfare like tourists. Roll up, break things, hang around a while and then bugger off thinking they've done something useful.
Domestically, my advice is to actually bother voting- and once you do get there, vote for someone who isn't a dickhead, B-grade actor, former pro wrestler, upper class aristocracy dipstick or something. Vote for an actual professional!
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| Originally posted by Meat187 I'm not talking about any posts in this thread, but this is something I've noticed frequently on TA. Someone makes a post mostly devoid of original content and meaningful insights, just some intellectual rambling either relativating everything or cleverly pointing out obvious truths. But the whole thing is wrapped in nicely structured sentences and exquisite words. Even worse, other applaud this crap and blindly say he's right and so great a writer. Certain people do this quite often. Probably most people are just too lazy to carefully read through such drivel wrapped in an expensive dress and point out the flaws, starting a prolonged discussion with the verbose poster. |
hey, fuck you! you fat degenerate fuck!
oooh, its captain irony.
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| Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles The lack of organic national culture is one of the good things about America. We are a proposition country, basing national feeling around relatively stable political ideals and founding documents, rather than stupid romanticism about blood and soil that has gotten Europe in trouble so many times. |
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| Originally posted by Fledz Funny that. I consider your founding documents as one of the worst things about the USA. |
I see American as just about any other groups of people in the world. A few good ones, a ton of retards.
american schmerican watever 
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| Originally posted by Kenny Rogers god damnit you idiot, these are people from countrys who needs help, who have lost everything! |
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| Originally posted by Kenny Rogers fucking Israeli raping **** |
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| Originally posted by Chimney I see American as just about any other groups of people in the world. A few good ones, a ton of retards. |
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| Originally posted by Fledz Funny that. I consider your founding documents as one of the worst things about the USA. |
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