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ont fuck with nou he led a guild on counterstrike and the military was impressed at the fact he was able to play party poker in between games.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN If you�d go back and read my posts you will plainly see my main contention was your ludicrous assertion that you know about warfare because you mod a computer game (and that I don�t consider you an expert regardless). note MOD, you didn�t even make the game yourself. So yeah, im sure if I wanted to know a few technical details, say the ballistic differences between rifles with 5.56 compared to 7.62 at 150m in pixels you might have an opinion that isn�t completely worthless.

http://www.virtualbattlespace.com/PR_VBS2_VTK.pdf If the game is good enough for these guys...

I also talk to the main developers regularly on Skype, including the CEO of BIS.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN No, I do not rate your opinion outside your little video game because your posting history does not indicate that I should. I find your assertion that the US spends money on defence so the rest of us don�t to be largely nonsense, simply because the US� main priority with defence spending is the furthering of its own interests, and if they happen to coincide with the interests of other nations, that is coincidental. Indeed I can think of a few areas where those interests have been downright harmful to your �allies�. I find your implied comparison between yourself and RAND to be quite laughable. You have absolutely no metric (either professional or educational) to measure your knowledge and opinion by, and I do not find your history of posts to indicate being particularly trustworthy with regards to making reasonable inferences/analyses from information provided (Trancer-X was also a �huge� reader.) I might be unfair in this analysis, but I am simply working with what you have given me over the last few years.

All I said is that if the US didn't have such a capable military, other nations that have relied on us in the past, or could rely on us in the future would be spending more on their domestic forces. Where is the fallacy in that?

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN Yes, Lilith made a single mistake with her mischaracterisation of what LIC happens to mean but I find lil�s analysis of your persona generally to be reasonably accurate, and given you have never served in the military nor worked in any field related to warfare or its analysis i place no significant weight in your opinions, other than those I have briefly alluded to above. It it funny you should mention this because your armchair warfare expertise is reminiscent of those same false experts exhibited in CTs on a regular basis. But hey man, im just trolling.

The issue is Lilith claimed to be more of an expert than I am because she buys stocks. Fucking buys stocks. LOL. I wasn't comparing myself to RAND either you fuckwit. She said that only people in the military can be experts on the military. I gave her a glaring example of where she is wrong.

If you want to test me, ask me a question, I will be more than happy to answer it.

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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby The issue is Lilith claimed to be more of an expert than I am because she buys stocks. Fucking buys stocks. LOL. I wasn't comparing myself to RAND either you fuckwit. She said that only people in the military can be experts on the military. I gave her a glaring example of where she is wrong. If you want to test me, ask me a question, I will be more than happy to answer it.

no lilith said she can probably get the same education you can on the military by following the paper trail hen she invests in stocks. shes probably right. you have no training, no education, youre an obsessive compulsive and a chickenhawk. Reading a few books on the military does not mkae you an expert. Reading a few books on psychology does not make you a psychologist. Reading a few books on Real Estate does not make you an agent. Reading a few books on electricity does not make you an electrician. Reading a few books on nursing does not make you a nurse. Reading a few books on programmin does not make you a programmer. See nou i picked professions that ta's here work. They can all speak up and tell you themselves it took reading a few books a shit load of education and years of on the job experience to become their trade. You've only read a few books, and played a video game,...you know fuck all. We all very much do doubt you do anything for the military. We could care less about your stupid video game

So reading does not impart knowledge? Obviously you can not read Vivid. That sucks.

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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby http://www.virtualbattlespace.com/PR_VBS2_VTK.pdf If the game is good enough for these guys...

If we were talking about your capacity to make a decent mod for a game you didn�t develop, you wouldn�t find an argument from me. im sure youre really good at making minor adjustments to other people�s work.

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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby I also talk to the main developers regularly on Skype, including the CEO of BIS.

Great, please ask BIS why they released armas in such buggy POS states for me.

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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby All I said is that if the US didn't have such a capable military, other nations that have relied on us in the past, or could rely on us in the future would be spending more on their domestic forces. Where is the fallacy in that?

Well your original comment seemed to be referencing Australia in particular, and you have �saved� us money by making us spend squillions on getting our soldiers killed in your wars. Our regional activities have had little or no subsidisation from the US or the UK, other than you to sell us second hand shit you don�t want any more. Having said that, im sure there are nato areas where you do subsidise the cost for other nations.

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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby The issue is Lilith claimed to be more of an expert than I am because she buys stocks. Fucking buys stocks. LOL. I wasn't comparing myself to RAND either you fuckwit. She said that only people in the military can be experts on the military. I gave her a glaring example of where she is wrong.

See, this is what I was talking about where you display a distinct inability to understand anything. the implication of your comment was that because RAND could do it, that meant you could too, fuckhead, as lilith�s comment was in reference to your lack of expertise and experience with warfare.

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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby If you want to test me, ask me a question, I will be more than happy to answer it.

When I want to know how to calibrate the army men in my sandpit I�ll be sure to give you a call.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN If we were talking about your capacity to make a decent mod for a game you didn�t develop, you wouldn�t find an argument from me. im sure youre really good at making minor adjustments to other people�s work.

Do you know what our fucking mod even does? It totally replaces the VOIP system in the game... http://dev-heaven.net/projects/a2ts3/wiki Not only does it replace it, but it adds accurate simulations of military radio systems and takes into factors like terrain in determining signal quality (based off of a number of algorithms from groups like ITU and other researchers in radio propagation). We also fully simulate antenna gain patterns based off of real antenna designs used for these radios.

It also does dynamic volume gain on direct speaking voices and other things related to voice propagation to provide more immersion to the simulation.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN Great, please ask BIS why they released armas in such buggy POS states for me.

Because its a game that does far more shit than any other game. You played with any of the patches yet, or with Operation Arrowhead? Game is much better.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN Well your original comment seemed to be referencing Australia in particular, and you have �saved� us money by making us spend squillions on getting our soldiers killed in your wars. Our regional activities have had little or no subsidisation from the US or the UK, other than you to sell us second hand shit you don�t want any more. Having said that, im sure there are nato areas where you do subsidise the cost for other nations.

My point was that if the US played no roll in the Oceanic region (which it would, if there was a major issue) then Australia wouldn't be buying second hand shit from us, but procuring new weapons systems on their own. The fact that they buy second hand shit from us pretty much goes on to prove that...

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN See, this is what I was talking about where you display a distinct inability to understand anything. the implication of your comment was that because RAND could do it, that meant you could too, fuckhead, as lilith�s comment was in reference to your lack of expertise and experience with warfare. When I want to know how to calibrate the army men in my sandpit I�ll be sure to give you a call.

She said that she wouldnt take advice from a civilian, instead she would take it from a mercenary (LOL who the fuck even knows if the merc served in the military, a lot of mercs are fucking dead-head cops that want to play army man)... She was being fucking obtusely ignorant and stupid because she has some sort of personal issue with me (which I didn't have with her, till now).

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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby Because its a game that does far more shit than any other game. You played with any of the patches yet, or with Operation Arrowhead? Game is much better.

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Originally posted by Vivid Boy /Thread

Indeed, this thread blows.

And IGK - do you save EVERY SINGLE PICTURE that's ever posted on TA?

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Originally posted by Vivid Boy /Thread

ArmA2 is not VBS2. Idiot.

Game or not, it is used by the US Army, USMC, USN, British MoD, Australian Defence Forces, Canadian Defence Forces, and NATO. So who care what you think, those are big users.

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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby Do you know what our fucking mod even does? It totally replaces the VOIP system in the game... http://dev-heaven.net/projects/a2ts3/wiki Not only does it replace it, but it adds accurate simulations of military radio systems and takes into factors like terrain in determining signal quality (based off of a number of algorithms from groups like ITU and other researchers in radio propagation). We also fully simulate antenna gain patterns based off of real antenna designs used for these radios.

That all sounds very impressive nou, I wish you well in that regard.

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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby Because its a game that does far more shit than any other game. You played with any of the patches yet, or with Operation Arrowhead? Game is much better.

No, its because eastern Europeans can�t code for shit. I only ever mucked around on my mate�s copy of arma II, and it was a steaming buggy piece of crap. Yes, I know it is mostly improved. I only mentioned it to get up your nose.

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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby The fact that they buy second hand shit from us pretty much goes on to prove that...

Actually it would appear to me that we are subsidising your shit.

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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby She said that she wouldnt take advice from a civilian, instead she would take it from a mercenary (LOL who the fuck even knows if the merc served in the military, a lot of mercs are fucking dead-head cops that want to play army man)... She was being fucking obtusely ignorant and stupid because she has some sort of personal issue with me (which I didn't have with her, till now).

Lilith might have gone overboard initially but she has a lot more goodwill in the tank than you do.

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Originally posted by Ang ' ela_ie Indeed, this thread blows. And IGK - do you save EVERY SINGLE PICTURE that's ever posted on TA?

I only save the classicos. Look deep into those eyes and tell me what you see? I see egomania, self loathing, and a dash of self pity (bordering on madness). How bout you? No matter how many times I see it there always something new. For example Jenny pointed out the shit on his nose (which I overlooked for all these years).

That picture is 4 years old.

I have a beard now.

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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby That picture is 4 years old. I have a beard now.

It captures who you are on the inside and that hasn't changed. I bet you still have serial killer eyes.

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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby That picture is 4 years old. I have a beard now.

please post pics

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Originally posted by Vivid Boy please post pics

See Ang he doesn't save all the pics posted on TA.

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Originally posted by Nrg2Nfinit bible thumper.

also lol @ thread

I like this thread.

Nou does know what he's talking about.

Nou, is that Wiki the main web presence for the project? If so, you should probably get someone to edit it. There are lots of spelling / usage errors.

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Originally posted by Zewad I like this thread. Nou does know what he's talking about.

im not saying he doesnt know what hes talkin about. Im arguing the fact he isnt going anywhere playing a videogame.


you know what zewad its all funn n games until you find out his main character is named zewad, that wears a pink tunic and was suspended for making a pass at his comanding officer.


Nou comes across as one of those war hungry kids whos parents won't let him enroll, so he sits on his ass all day shoving cheetos down his throat playing video games and reading everything he can on war.


But at the end of the day hes no expert....hes just a fat kid without any goals and ambitions.

Nou is a lesser version of politicians and military bureaucrats who treat war as a game. They lack humility because they are sending someone else off to die. The worst type of knowledge is the book type without experience and wisdom.

but thats just it..i also argue he has the book type of knowledge. I just have a feelin he regurgitates something he heard or an article he read. I really dont think he has any of his own knowledge. How can he? no experience, hes never took any formal education in ANYTHING, he just reads ebooks and his video game instruction manual

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Originally posted by Vivid Boy im not saying he doesnt know what hes talkin about.

Actually I think thats what you have been saying the whole time...

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Originally posted by MrJiveBoJingles Nou, is that Wiki the main web presence for the project? If so, you should probably get someone to edit it. There are lots of spelling / usage errors.

I know! Its annoying, I need to clean it up. There is a lot of contributions from non-native english speakers on it. I have not contributed a lot to the content of the wiki (much to many peoples annoyance).

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Originally posted by Vivid Boy but thats just it..i also argue he has the book type of knowledge. I just have a feelin he regurgitates something he heard or an article he read. I really dont think he has any of his own knowledge. How can he? no experience, hes never took any formal education in ANYTHING, he just reads ebooks and his video game instruction manual

You realize that a lot of military knowledge is theoretical till it is put in practice, in fact, besides the last 10 years a lot of doctrine in the US military was based on little experience, and more theoretical and taking history and other countries lessons into account.

If you read some of the field specific journals (my favorite being Field Artillery Magazine) from around the end of the cold war you can see a lot of this type of learned or expected knowledge and how rapidly it can change.

I read a good piece from the Jan. 1990 issue about how mortars were useless because we will never fight an enemy again that is dismounted (and they will only dismount within ~500 meters, too close for effective indirect fire from mortars). Skip ahead 1 year and the same journal is talking about the importance of LIC and accurate and small fires to minimize collateral damage against civilians.

If you look at Iraq and Afghanistan there is now a huge amount of indirect fire support from mortars because of the ranges involved and the amount of fires needed, and the fact that insurgents are 99.99% of the time not in armored APC/IFV but dismounted or in Suzuki pick-ups and Renaults where HE rounds will easily be effective on them.

All I am saying is that studying previous history or tactics is how new tactics are thought up, but you are right, experience does matter, because most of the time huge portions of those tactics go right out the window (and written down for others to learn).

Oh, I bet you read a lot of Gordon Wood, huh? You read your Gordon Wood and you regurgitate it from a textbook, and you think you're awesome doing that and how 'bout them apples and all that Gordon Wood business?

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Originally posted by Chris Crossland Oh, I bet you read a lot of Gordon Wood, huh? You read your Gordon Wood and you regurgitate it from a textbook, and you think you're awesome doing that and how 'bout them apples and all that Gordon Wood business?

Who the fuck is Gordon Wood?

Oh... bahahaha... ffs.

I love that episode. Those painted up bitches were fucking hot.

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