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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby Ironic how, in that I can say that because of free speech?

haha yeah

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Originally posted by Lews lol ******ry.

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Originally posted by EgosXII haha yeah

How is it ironic? Wouldn't being for limiting speech be something that people wanting to limit speech be for as well? If it was something you got in trouble for because you advocated limiting free speech in a free speech society, then wouldn't that in itself be a denial of free speech?

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Originally posted by Lira Fair enough. Who exactly should define and deny these rights?

Me, or people smarter than myself, and that follow an agenda I agree on.

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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby How is it ironic? Wouldn't being for limiting speech be something that people wanting to limit speech be for as well? If it was something you got in trouble for because you advocated limiting free speech in a free speech society, then wouldn't that in itself be a denial of free speech?

because you're endorsing a vast change in social activity which barely anybody would agree to.

and thats the exact thing you're trying to stop: Therefore Irony. If you had what you wanted you wouldn't be able to do what you're trying to do.

you're also posting a stupid idea on the internet, which is specifically what you're trying to stop.

brilliant lulz

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Originally posted by EgosXII because you're endorsing a vast change in social activity which barely anybody would agree to. and thats the exact thing you're trying to stop: Therefore Irony. If you had what you wanted you wouldn't be able to do what you're trying to do. you're also posting a stupid idea on the internet, which is specifically what you're trying to stop. brilliant lulz

I never said I was against vast change in social activity. I just want a vast change that doesn't piss me off. If BoredHouseWifeKansas and JoeBuckTexas can't post freely online I'd be more than happy.

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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby Posts like his make me sad that the internet exists because it allows like minded idiots like him to meet other like minded idiots. People organizing/communicating is fucking dangerous when there is this level of stupidity.

Funny, pretty much everyone here feels the same way about you.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunnin...93Kruger_effect

Ok, I agree with these statements. The only good point that I think he pointed out was the increase in child abuse but noticed he used "committed by homosexually prone deviants". There is a difference between a Homosexual prone deviant when compared to a gay man. I have gay friends, ff's when I worked on the River walk my best friend for 2 years was a female that was Lesbian and her friends were nice and chill. So I always consider him a "Bigot" on this issue.

But here is the real kicker, he went to prison when he was 18. Many years ago but I'm sure the same rules applied then. So, it's not something he really talks about but I think you know what happened and this has created these radical views of his. It's hard to get through to him on this subject, he just doesn't understand that I am more tolerant, WAY MORE TOLERANT, than he is. If it isn't the issue of him going to prison I don't know what is because to me a Homesexual prone deviant is a big man doing life and likes to rape men in prison which I don't see the gratification out of that either. I understand maybe this has warped his perception but he is still a good friend of mine.

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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby Posts like his make me sad that the internet exists because it allows like minded idiots like him to meet other like minded idiots. People organizing/communicating is fucking dangerous when there is this level of stupidity.

I'm sorry you that in your big ivory tower you sit on you never took the time to understand this was a debate between me and a friend of mine that I bailed out of because it was no going further for me without causing hard feelings.

Did you call me an idiot for asking TA how they felt about this?

I am organizing what that is dangerous? A simple debate that I was left out of words to continue with? I think possibly you have Seattle shoved so far up your arse, you think it's the correct way of speaking and now thinking. Possibly all this alone time people have claimed you spend by yourself (even with your talent behind it) has warped your perception with your emotions when you see something you don't agree with. I have been guilty of this myself but that ways the old me (a douche) but NOT NO MORE. Now see how experience plays a part in this and a part in his views as well.

Kansas and JoeBuckTexas....you need to understand people in San Antonio and Austin are way more Liberal on gay issues than a back town like El Paso or a mega city like Houston for that matter.

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Originally posted by EgosXII its fucking dumb- there's not heaps of use responding to most of it, but homosexuality is far more nature than nurture: Most gay people i've asked have known they were gay since they were kids, it doesn't just happen one day, or happen because their mother treated them like girls instead of boys or some stupid crap like that: the reason there are more now is because they won't be medically castrated if they admit they are gay now. I highly doubt there are more gay people now than there have been in the past, its just that more gay people feel comfortable admitting it, or are able to live with it- its not some social movement, and comparing it to one is absolutely ridiculous: homosexuality is not an ideology, its a physical disposition ffs.

This is where I am possibly wrong, I never took the time to think how more difficult it must of been to come out in the past compared to now. I still feel that nurture plays a role in the weak minded atleast.

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Originally posted by ModernNosferatu I'm sorry you that in your big ivory tower you sit on you never took the time to understand this was a debate between me and a friend of mine that I bailed out of because it was no going further for me without causing hard feelings. Did you call me an idiot for asking TA how they felt about this? I am organizing what that is dangerous? A simple debate that I was left out of words to continue with? I think possibly you have Seattle shoved so far up your arse, you think it's the correct way of speaking and now thinking. Possibly all this alone time people have claimed you spend by yourself (even with your talent behind it) has warped your perception with your emotions when you see something you don't agree with. I have been guilty of this myself but that ways the old me (a douche) but NOT NO MORE. Now see how experience plays a part in this and a part in his views as well. Kansas and JoeBuckTexas....you need to understand people in San Antonio and Austin are way more Liberal on gay issues than a back town like El Paso or a mega city like Houston for that matter.

I don't think we ever mentioned you, but since you are one of those NWO conspiracy theory people anyways its not surprising that you think we did.

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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby I don't think we ever mentioned you, but since you are one of those NWO conspiracy theory people anyways its not surprising that you think we did.

Your wrong again. Now what two people were you referring to in this statement? Quoted twice now by me.

And the Kansas and JoeBuckTexas? That is two people again and I am from Texas. Ok, explain ... GO !!

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Originally posted by ModernNosferatu Your wrong again. Now what two people were you referring to in this statement? Quoted twice now by me. And the Kansas and JoeBuckTexas? That is two people again and I am from Texas. Ok, explain ... GO !!

Hypotheticals? FFS do you even know who Joe Buck Texas refers to? Ever seen Midnight Cowboy?

Well... this won't happen in Uganda anytime soon. The movement against gay men who eat the poopoo has began .

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Originally posted by LiquidX Well... this won't happen in Uganda anytime soon. The movement against gay men who eat the poopoo has began .

Interesting fact about Uganda and its legislation: they have been influenced by a powerful U.S. Christian group called "The Family," whose membership includes some American politicians:

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/...oryId=120746516

I heard about that on NPR, too.

They eat the poo poo!

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Originally posted by Joss Weatherby Me, or people smarter than myself, and that follow an agenda I agree on.

Quite as I predicted

Paraphrasing what Jon Stewart once said about democracy, it is one of the finest forms of government until the candidate you don't like wins the election, then it's just a mass instrument of manipulation governed by sheeple

[ Not his exact words, but the idea is the same ]

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Originally posted by Lira Quite as I predicted Paraphrasing what Jon Stewart once said about democracy, it is one of the finest forms of government until the candidate you don't like wins the election, then it's just a mass instrument of manipulation governed by sheeple [ Not his exact words, but the idea is the same ]

Nah, it is always governed by idiots. Even when the less-bad guy wins.

Some of the politicians may be pretty smart, but they are crafting their image and policies to appeal to morons, so they may as well be dumb themselves.

That may well be true, but democracy is so complicated, and the power struggles are so numerous that it's I don't see a reason to ditch it. Aren't there facts that do show democracies seldom declare war against one another (specially compared to other forms of government)?

I'm sure Nou would take this to be a disadvantage but this is beside the point

I think stronger economic bonds explain the lack of war better than the change of government type.

Also, there is too much tongue-sticking-out in this thread. I'm going to quit using that smiley for now.

Rock out with your tongue out

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