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have to agree... a month seems a little long... what do the judges think?

Sounds good, but I only need a week or so to judge the tracks.. say I do 4 tracks a day or something. I'd like to write some short reviews too, writing the things I like about the song and etc.

I'm already looking forward to listen to the remixes

Id like 2 weeks to judge...

Cause i have limited time, with heavy education, working progressive stuff for a label now, and working...

Although i might be done in a week too, id just like 2 weekS! So i have time, if crap happens


Anyway,

i tried contacting you eieregooie on icq...but....

So if you could pm where i can dl tracks
or contact me at icq on

14002277

This is gonna be long


Personally I would say:

5 days for the judges to DL all mixes (Myself has a fast connection so it can be shorter, don't know about the others), remember we're talking 20 files hear so this also affects time for checking and judging...

AT LEAST 10 days to check all tracks and give them scores, I would like to have at least 2 hours to devote to each track. Remember, judges are gonna be very picky.

Either Eiereg or one of the judges should talk to Swamper and ask for permission to have the winning remix on the Tranceaddict new tracks page.

As for the way judging will be made:

I) There is no way to reinforce this, so judges will need to be trusted- We will ahve to stay as neutral as possible, overally judging th track to waht we consider a high level of production.

II) Again, can't be reinforced, judges must be trusted: We must treat each and every criteria and remix SEPERATELY, temporarily completely ignoring all other criteria when devoting thought to a certain criteria and all other remixs when devoting thought to a certain remix, no comparison. Judges should not and may not give a certain score to some criteria in order to bring the final average score to any value.

III) Scores are from 0 to 10, with the option of one digit of a tenth (EG X.6, 7.8 etc.)

IV) The average between scorings will be calculated in a way that must be predecided, my suggestion will be:

[Originality Score] * 2 + [Complexity Score] * 1.5 + [Buildup / Breakadown Score] * 1.5 + [Connections Score] *2 + [Sound-Quality/Mastering] * 3 = [Final Track Grade]

(e.g. 4.5, 6.0, 3.4, 7.9, 9.3 will result 9+9+5.1+15.8+27.9=66.8)

I suggest this because the Mastering aspect is the only completely neautral aspect and we should strive for neautrality, thus encouraging producers to use their style whilst knowing high-end production will be rewarded the most.

Complexity and Breakdown are the most subjective aspects and thus should be minimized, and judged mostly by how fitting the buildups breakdowns and complexity of each track to it's style and artistic idea.

As you see, a well connected& designed, plotted track with high sound quality and technical work will have half the work done, leaving the more subjective side with the rest of the score.

V) Judges are not to calculate the final score, but merely to keep track of each criteria's grade for each track within a .txt file, which at the end of the scoring will have it's contents copied and sent through E-mail or Tranceaddict forum personal message to the competitiona manager.

VI) Each of the competing remixers may or may not vote, using the Tranceaddict personal messages, to a remix of another remixer other than himself, by sending a message to the competition manager (Remixers will be allowed to download each f the remixes once they are renamed, and each remixer will be informed of his own number at the competition). All remixer votes will be gathered by the manager and at the end, the remix recieveing most votes will have 3 points subtracted from it's score on the Final List (See below).
To partially avoid artists avoiding voting for others so as to not help them lose these points, each voting artist will lose 1 point at the Final List. The winning artist amongst these will lose the additional 3 points, as explained below. It's each artist's decision whether to vote or not to another.

VII) Along other tasks, the manager's role is to gather all grades, calculate each judges final score for each track, then sort a list of twenty track per judge, sorting them from the remix with the highest score to the lowest. Form now on, a remixe's score will only be used in case of a tie.

IIX) Each track's rank amongst the others will count as the number of points it gets in each judge's ranking (IE first rank recieves 1 point, second will recieve 2 and so on). Once the process of giving points is done for each judge, points will be gathered from all judges to compile the Final List. The remix with the least points will be decided the winning track of the competition. In case of any tie in points, including amongst lower places, the remix with the average highest score will win the higher spot over the other(s)

IX) The manager will notify the judges of the results within 48 hours of the judging deadline and submission of the judges decisions, he will as well notify the winner within 48 hours and the winner will post a message announcing his win by replyig inside this thread, and once the manager aproves, the winner is officially The Winner.

X) Once The Winner had been announced, the competition is officialy over and the remixes may be shared and spread across the world wide web. The Winner and manager (plus possibly the judges) will take care of sorting the prize.



Is this OK with everyone?

uploaded mp3s should be in 192kbit, 44.1khz, full stereo.

Well, the time's up for signing up for this compo... There's exactly one person on reserve list in case any of the competitors drops out...

Reserve list:
- Access

oDrori... I'm gonna have to read that again 'coz I didn't understand it completely the first time through... But it sounds good...

C U guyz around, I'll be in Italy till the 23rd so hope to see some responds here when I get back...

Im dropping out of this competition, I've got alot of stuff going on now, including some events in early october for me. My spot is now up for grabs.

I'll try to make time for the next compo, but this one would be impossible.

good luck

Access... you're in... if you still want to...

Yeah sure ... count me in

Better go fix my pc then ... the pc i'm behind now can hardly handle a bassline

oDrori, there's two things I'd like to see explained when you get back...

quote:

Originally posted by oDrori IX) The manager will notify the judges of the results within 48 hours of the judging deadline and submission of the judges decisions, he will as well notify the winner within 48 hours and the winner will post a message announcing his win by replyig inside this thread, and once the manager aproves, the winner is officially The Winner. X) Once The Winner had been announced, the competition is officialy over and the remixes may be shared and spread across the world wide web. The Winner and manager (plus possibly the judges) will take care of sorting the prize.

IX) Why not just post all the results at the same time? Maybe the winner won't log in on TA for days. Which would mean that the others have to wait for the results, even though the results are known to the judges and the manager...

X) What kind of prize were you thinking?

quote:

Originally posted by Robert uploaded mp3s should be in 192kbit, 44.1khz, full stereo.

Agree... And let's set judging time on two weeks, since McBigMac says he'll need that time...

I posted a thread in Music Discussion trying to get two more judges... I'll PM Swamper too asking him to put the winning mix on the website...

quote:

Originally posted by eieregooie ... I posted a thread in Music Discussion trying to get two more judges... I'll PM Swamper too asking him to put the winning mix on the website...

Nice one mate!

I updated the Overview too...

Couple more days , just puttin effects and mastering it.. OH its so nastaaay.

quote:

Originally posted by eieregooie X) What kind of prize were you thinking?

winner gets to chose the track for remix comp #4.

I would be up for judging

quote:

Originally posted by eieregooie Great! Just post a message in the remix compo thread letting the contestants know that you will judge, and I will add your name to the list of judges... Thanks mate!

i made it on the list of judges

looking forward to hearing all of your remixes, and good luck

Fantastic -=JC=-! You're in!

Now we've got 5 judges

I am out, I got no time to finish it...

Trancevision

Thanks 4 letting us know...

Im sorry but Ive gotta pull out too. Ive recently had a break in the industry and im currently devoting all my time to it, and ive got no spare time to complete the remix.

Sorry. thanks for the oppurtunity.

Sorry to hear you had to pull out. Congrats with having a break in the industry

Heya, back from Italy...

Good luck indeed Delphini, sorry to see you and Chrono pull out...

But also happy to see the new judges


The prize I had in mind is upping the file to the TA picks page, and the "Get to choose the next remixed track" sounds sweet too, only a bit limitating so I would suggest the winning artist gets to put 3 options or so for us to vote on for the next remixed track.


About the announceement thing, it ain't a must, I just thought it would be nice to let the winner announce his victory

But we can give that up.

Hope to have a good listening experience


P.S. are we going along with the artists voting for each other thing?

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