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Originally posted by ziptnf Stephen is right, you don't have to resort to ad hominem here. You feel like you're talking to a 6 year old? Give me a fucking break, asshole, if you're going to start talking down to me like that then I'm not going to bother discussing anything with you. I'm calling you out because you claim moral fiber matters in Washington, but turn a blind eye to the blatant homophobic irrational tendencies of Michelle Bachmann, just because she's a Republican. I'm done with this, since you can't seem to be civil.

dude calm the fuck down. look at your little crybaby "take my ball and go home" tactics. you took what I said about "none of that shit matters" way too literal. that's not my fault. so right after you tell me I need to get my fucking head out of the sand, a pure insinuation that I'm stupid or delusional, I call you a 6 year old for not getting what I said. But I'm the asshole- just me. when did you get so thin skinned man? you used to roll with it pretty well.

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Originally posted by ziptnf I'm calling you out because you claim moral fiber matters in Washington, but turn a blind eye to the blatant homophobic irrational tendencies of Michelle Bachmann, just because she's a Republican. I'm done with this, since you can't seem to be civil.

I'm sure Kevin didn't mean to purposefully be mean, he's actually super nice Let's have a REAL discussion gaiz, no more fighting.

I really don't like Michele Bachmann, however, don't you think both sides portray the same hypocrisy? I mean, we've had some pretty wacko Democrats too... And as Kevin pointed out, don't you think Obama is being a hypocrite? When he was running for President, he clearly stated he believed there should be 'gay marriage' and now you see recent quotes like:

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"I've stated my opposition to this. I think it's unnecessary," Obama told MTV. "I believe marriage is between a man and a woman. I am not in favor of gay marriage. But when you start playing around with constitutions, just to prohibit somebody who cares about another person, it just seems to me that's not what America's about."

the opposite:


I wish Barack had more of a backbone if you ask me...

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Originally posted by The17sss dude calm the fuck down. look at your little crybaby "take my ball and go home" tactics. you took what I said about "none of that shit matters" way too literal. that's not my fault. so right after you tell me I need to get my fucking head out of the sand, a pure insinuation that I'm stupid or delusional, I call you a 6 year old for not getting what I said. But I'm the asshole- just me. when did you get so thin skinned man? you used to roll with it pretty well.

There's nothing different about me, and you can shove your "crybaby 6 year old" insults firmly up your ass. Telling you to pull your head out of the sand is not ad hominem. You are so clearly avoiding the issue when I call you out for having conflicting beliefs on what is considered "moral fiber". If lying and sending cock pics is considered having low moral fiber, but lying and talking about how homosexuals are engaging in bondage and have perversions similar to Satan isn't, then you truly have some skewed fundamentals.

Even Tom Petty doesn't like Bachmann:
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0611/57933.html

Homosexuals need help. There are wonderful programs which under Bachman, the government would subsidize so they can get the help they need. 6 months of rigorous sunrise to sunset biblical instruction should do the trick.

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Originally posted by The17sss the point here is that someone's stance on gay marriage will not win or lose them the election, as it shouldn't. that stance also will not be a precursor as to how well they manage/lead the country and deal with the "more important" things we face as a nation.

The point is, Bachmann's stance on gay marriage and other wedge issues are what WOULD win her the election, if that were to actually happen. The voting base she would draw from isn't essentially voting for her so much as they're voting AGAINST everyone else, especially in support of keepin THEM THERE GAYS FROM MARRYING.

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Originally posted by ziptnf And then do what?

And then you should realize that we / you always have been, currently are and always will be governed by incompetent idiots. And that no matter how much you argue in favor of the party you're a fanboy of and against the evil others nothing will change and nothing will ever get better because of a politician. Things get better despite politicians and the only options are to either behead those fuckers French-revolution-style or at least stop legitimating them by your vote and believe (in the US case) the retarded crap half of them spit out, no matter which half you choose.

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Originally posted by Meat187 And then you should realize that we / you always have been, currently are and always will be governed by incompetent idiots. And that no matter how much you argue in favor of the party you're a fanboy of and against the evil others nothing will change and nothing will ever get better because of a politician. Things get better despite politicians and the only options are to either behead those fuckers French-revolution-style or at least stop legitimating them by your vote and believe (in the US case) the retarded crap half of them spit out, no matter which half you choose.

When you vote, you have 2 choice. Democrat or Republican. There is no choice to not legitimize them. That simply means not voting or voting for one of the 3rd parties which everyone knows will never win.

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Originally posted by Meat187 And then you should realize that we / you always have been, currently are and always will be governed by incompetent idiots. And that no matter how much you argue in favor of the party you're a fanboy of and against the evil others nothing will change and nothing will ever get better because of a politician. Things get better despite politicians and the only options are to either behead those fuckers French-revolution-style or at least stop legitimating them by your vote and believe (in the US case) the retarded crap half of them spit out, no matter which half you choose.

Yeah, no law has ever improved anything, ever!

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Originally posted by Ygrene Oh, you don't think it could change his point of view? I think it could. You are clearly wrong.

shut up

I love it when the COR goes political.

I like how people get excited / outraged about such an obvious non-candidate.

who the fuck cares.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN Yeah, no law has ever improved anything, ever!

Indeed, in Germany during the last 15 years I can't think of a single one I would consider a good decision. Half-assed compromises that replaced old problems with new problems at best.
Stop being naive and get your anarchist pants on!

think of all the great old laws though. like when it was legal to take the property of jews. now that was progress.

Yeah, or when they decided to get rid of all those criminals that only cost the state money by shipping them to Australia. That was genius!

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Originally posted by Comrade Stalin When you vote, you have 2 choice. Democrat or Republican. There is no choice to not legitimize them. That simply means not voting or voting for one of the 3rd parties which everyone knows will never win.

I have settled with not voting. I know it technically makes no difference, but whenever the politicians make complete idiots out of themselves, usually right after the election, I can at least say that they don't have my vote.
And since ours are already a bunch of clueless and corrupt liars I can only imagine how much worse it is in countries like Italy, Greece, Romania, Afghanistan,... or the US.

no sense of humour about the holocaust the krauts.

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Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN no sense of humour about anything the krauts.

Fixed.

haha, saw this on Gawker today.

Kicking off her presidential campaign in Waterloo, Iowa, Michele Bachmann explained the geographic significance to Fox News: "Well what I want them to know is just like, John Wayne was from Waterloo, Iowa. That's the kind of spirit that I have, too."

This is problematic, the Washington Times explains, because "beloved movie star" John Wayne is not from Bachmann's hometown of Waterloo. John Wayne Gacy, the "killer clown" who raped and murdered 33 teenage boys in the '70s, is from Waterloo. Movie star John Wayne is from Winterset, Iowa.

Yeah, Colbert had a go at that last night.

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Originally posted by Meat187 I have settled with not voting. I know it technically makes no difference, but whenever the politicians make complete idiots out of themselves, usually right after the election, I can at least say that they don't have my vote. And since ours are already a bunch of clueless and corrupt liars I can only imagine how much worse it is in countries like Italy, Greece, Romania, Afghanistan,... or the US.

I'd rather have German politicians over ours any day. Your right wingers are our democratic party. Which is sad.

That pic has been going around FB all day today

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Originally posted by Comrade Stalin I'd rather have German politicians over ours any day. Your right wingers are our democratic party. Which is sad.

Wouldn't that also mean that our left wingers are actually communists?

Anyway, I could give endless examples of them lying, being corrupt or just stupid.

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Originally posted by Meat187 Wouldn't that also mean that our left wingers are actually communists? Anyway, I could give endless examples of them lying, being corrupt or just stupid.

Your left wingers would be outcasted as communists. Hell, in this country, being a mere socialist (something normal in Europe) automatically equates to communism (since most Americans are too dumb to know the difference) and essentially disqualifies the candidate immediately.

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