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| Originally posted by srussell0018 Education is not more powerful than AK-47s and bombs. I think you're idealizing the role that education would play in the reforming of the Afghani government. Without weapons or a centralized military, it doesn't matter how smart or how literate the average Afghani citizen is. |
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| Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN I don�t have an answer to that. I guess as long as the afghani government wants them there. All I was stating though is I think an invasion was an acceptable response to the 2001 attacks. |
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| Originally posted by Lews Eh, I do think it's important to get rid of the Taliban first and then educate, but your second statement isn't entirely correct. Education can be extremely powerful. |
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| Originally posted by Lews Eh, I do think it's important to get rid of the Taliban first and then educate, but your second statement isn't entirely correct. Education can be extremely powerful. |
I never said education enough is enough to change a country, especially when the government (like the Taliban) is willing to kill lots of people. However, it's not worthless by any means. Often educated citizens are the ones who will start to rebel and who will be responsible for people getting money which buys guns and which is the ultimate key to changing anything 
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| Originally posted by Comrade Stalin The Afghan government is a puppet regime. Of course they want the Americans to stay. If America leaves, the Afghan government will crumble as fast as you can say "Adios". |
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| Originally posted by Lews Often educated citizens are the ones who will start to rebel and who will be responsible for people getting money which buys guns and which is the ultimate key to changing anything |
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| Originally posted by hardcore trancer What the fuck are these so called special operations you idiot? Does invading another country count as special operations to you? Lay off the crack bro seriously.  |
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| Originally posted by Marcus Summers Did anybody here know a person that was killed in Iraq or Afghanistan, here? |
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| Originally posted by Zewad Iraq 2005 - 3 of my Soldiers died in an IED blast 10 meters in front of me. The 4th, our medic, died under my care as I put tourniquets on his arms and legs as they were blown off. |
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| Originally posted by psymon.d fuuuucking hell |
I figured Zewad knew people. I think VAR was there too. I know he mentioned at one point in another thread getting a TBI (traumatic brain injury).
I don't know anyone who has died personally but I've known a few people that have come back with injuries, lots of them TBI or non-physical mental injuries, PTSD, etc. TBIs suck. I know a Major who got one in Iraq, he isn't too bad off but every so often he'll be talking and just wont be able to remember common words or ideas in his train of thought. It sucks.
Another guy I know came back from Iraq with a TBI (from multiple explosions, he was Abrams commander, the gun on that thing probably fucked with his head, not to mention taking RPG and IED explosions...) and he said he developed a bi-polar condition. Sometimes you'd talk to him and he'd be on top of the world, the next he'd be so down in the dumps you worried about his safety.
War fucking sucks. People often forget the non-fatal casualties, the maimed, physically and mentally. We owe them the most.
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| Originally posted by Joss Weatherby War fucking sucks. People often forget the non-fatal casualties, the maimed, physically and mentally. We owe them the most. |
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| Originally posted by The17sss absolutely brutal. one of the toughest movies to watch. |
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| Originally posted by Syntonic Damn, never seen that movie but that clip was pretty intense. I can't imagine the real thing. |
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| Originally posted by The17sss Best acting job by Tom Cruise ever |
ugh... can't wait to gtfo this bitch. that youtube clip scurrs me
That's the account and record we should not miss. Students have released a study through Brown University tallying up the past ten years of battle expenses and added in for secondary costs of these battles. The final cost of the battles in Afghanistan and Iraq may add up to $4 trillion, and might have resulted in the deaths of up to 250,000 individuals. Wars cost American taxpayers almost $4 trillion in past decade . Since the Bush and Obama administrations have borrowed heavily to finance the war, the interest payments alone are staggering. Its where majority of taxpayer's money go.
The worse, the final costs aren�t going to be known for decades, if ever. Aside from costs to American taxpayers, the cost to Iraq and Afghanistan in repairing destroyed infrastructure, caring for people with disabilities and lost income from people who were killed may never be tallied.
it's so sad that the passionate american anti-war movement from the first part of the decade kinda died out
i guess after 10 years people don't really care any more
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| Originally posted by TranceArmstrong it's so sad that the passionate american anti-war movement from the first part of the decade kinda died out i guess after 10 years people don't really care any more |
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| Originally posted by Comrade Stalin They will once it affects their daily life, most likely now through a debt crisis. |
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| Originally posted by Comrade Stalin They will once it affects their daily life, most likely now through a debt crisis. |
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| Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN nope. i figured knowhope would though, given that he's spent the last X years apologising for OBL & AQ with his truther idiocy. |
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| Originally posted by pkcRAISTLIN there are, of course, many other reputable sources that mention AQ prior to 911. |
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