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I'd rather have a couple of thousand stationary CCTV cameras to worry about than 308 million of these running around.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J What the fuck are you talking about? Please tell me how it would affect your life, Jay, because I can't figure it out. I do not think about the cameras, ever. The thing about public places is, they're public. You're always being watched, and so you don't do private things there. And if you do, you have absolutely no right to complain if you get caught. Trust me, your life of cat fondling, mid-market eateries and slightly kinky anal sex would be no different if your country had as much CCTV as mine. The profusion of CCTV is massively exaggerated anyway. That stat that you get caught on camera 500 times a day is only true if you work in London city centre. So yeah, if you commute through one of the largest cities in the world, you'll get caught on camera a lot. OPPRESSIVE. In most suburbs or villages there are no cameras at all. And the idea that it's centralised, that the government has control of all these cameras and that all their footage is recorded and saved is nonsense. Read Michel Foucault's essay on the Panopticon system of social control. CCTV is an urban myth, a 21st Century God that can hear our sinful thoughts and stops us ever acting out of line in the first place. Do you think most of these rioters will actually be caught and convicted?

doubleplusgood.

jon the dentist hit a nerve.

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Originally posted by dj_alfi What you are describing is a (violent) political/socio-economic revolution. I don't think a bunch of criminals running around looting falls in under that category.

That was percicely my point.

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Originally posted by Moral Hazard That was percicely my point.

I don't know what percicely means, so I'm just gonna assume you meant precisely.

It wasn't meant as a rebuttal, as much as it was an emergency brake for a train that was about to derail :P

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Originally posted by Zyklon_Jay doubleplusgood. jon the dentist hit a nerve.

Stop wasting my time with your crayon drawings of intelligent thought.

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Originally posted by dj_alfi I don't know what percicely means, so I'm just gonna assume you meant precisely.

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Stop wasting my time with your crayon drawings of intelligent thought.

Yeah, this is more a magic marker crowd!

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J Stop wasting my time with your crayon drawings of intelligent thought.

You waste your own time, by replying to everything in paragraphs like you fucked frenchie or something.

I read that in a psychology book.

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Originally posted by hardcore trancer

This reminds me of the ordinary citizens in Egypt, doing the police job protecting peoples homes and even the museum.

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Originally posted by jester This reminds me of the ordinary citizens in Egypt, doing the police job protecting peoples homes and even the museum.

Thats what came to my mind too. I'm no sure if this is a good thing or bad. People fighting eachother, How will that calm things down?

This occurred in Manchester. Usually I don't condone police brutality, but this time I couldn't give a shit.

It holds 24 baseballs and can shoot a ball out at 80 mph This would be an interesting thing to use against the looters or you can always line people up on the street with their golf clubs and start hitting people with golf balls

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Originally posted by _Ocean_Drive_ This occurred in Manchester. Usually I don't condone police brutality, but this time I couldn't give a shit.

I would only call that police brutality if they beat that (apparently innocent) lad to a pulp. It seems they only tackled the troublemakers, and I couldn't expect any less.

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Originally posted by Moral Hazard I'm not sure I agree with you, Lira. Certainly, there are historical examples where violence has destroyed something allowing something else to be established in it's place; however, that's not changing an institution but replacing it. Of course, there are also plenty of historical examples where violence preceeded changes but the change itself was initiated internally with violence usually being a result of the resistance to change and then exacerbating the change that was already taking hold. Violence itself doesn't cause change... someone with influence and power must usher in the reform.

That's true, and I wouldn't ever doubt that for a moment. But, my point is, violence does weaken the power of any given authority, even when this is an unintended consequence. For example, there was a very important ideological structure prepared before (and after) the storming of the Bastille - but what they achieve that one time through violence was very unlikely to be accomplished through sheer diplomacy, methinks.

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Originally posted by Lira I would only call that police brutality if they beat that (apparently innocent) lad to a pulp. It seems they only tackled the troublemakers, and I couldn't expect any less.

If you watched it through to the end, you'd see a line of policemen marching up from where the bikers came from. I would assume they notified the lucky ones that got to lay the smackdown over walkie talkie or a similar british communication device.

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Originally posted by dj_alfi If you watched it through to the end, you'd see a line of policemen marching up from where the bikers came from. I would assume they notified the lucky ones that got to lay the smackdown over walkie talkie or a similar british communication device.

I saw that. I believe walkie talkie in British English is, because of all the knobs and the remaining influences of the Beatles, "Twist'n'Spout", which later gave rise to 4chan's very own "Stroll and Troll".

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Massive Attack: In context with the complicit support of the government, the banks looted the nation's wealth while destroying countless small businesses and brought the whole economy to its knees in a covert, clean manner, rather like organised crime. Our reaction was to march and wave banners and then bail them out. These kids would have to riot and steal every night for a year to run up a bill equivalent to the value of non-paid tax big business has 'avoided' out of the economy this year alone. They may not articulate their grievances like the politicians that condemn them but this is absolutely political. As for the 'mindless violence'� is there anything more mindless than the British taxpayer quietly paying back the debts of others while contributing bullets to conflicts that we have absolutely no understanding of? It's mad, sad and scary when we have to take to the streets to defend our homes and businesses from angry thieving kids, but where are the police and what justice is ever done when the mob is dressed in pin stripe.

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Originally posted by srussell0018 Retard

thread was tl:dr.

Also Jay. someone needs to be stealing sasha's smoke from him.

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Originally posted by Redd from Facebook

That is utter bullshit

Keep the fucking photoshops in the photoshop thread. No need for duplicates

There's an underlying anger building around the world with ordinary people getting screwed by economic forces beyond their control. They can't afford houses, get jobs and the violence eventually starts to emerge. There's even been riots in Vancouver and a smaller one in LA recently at the EDC premiere of all things. I think we're going to start to see more of them around the world. People are frustrated. Of course that doesn't excuse the looting and greedy behavior.

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