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Originally posted by ThisIsTulsa A. Wow, never seen so much change from one year to the next. Think this is attributed to explosion of dance music of past two years. Have feeling that lot's of people voted for first time this year and our newbies to EDM. I was shocked to see such a dramatic change. Usually poll moves very slowly from year to year and can predict who is moving up 5-10 spaces and who is moving down. Not this year. Think rise will continure next year also. C. Swedish House Mafia and Armada have hijacked half the poll. It's amazing how fast SHM have taken over the poll and brought there support DJ's into it. Read on some forums where people are like who the is AM21 and (whatever I don't even know correct initials nor care to) what do they play? It's amazing that they have pretty much all there support DJ's in the poll in a year. And secondly Armada, DAMN promotion machine. I can't even count how many DJ's they have in the poll, it's a lot for sure. True most of ones that were in it last year dropped a few places but also several new entries and continual rise of Dash Berlin ( and his anthem vocal trance). D. Hey Gareth how is broadening your sound working out for you? Seems like he tried to copy Tiesto to some degree and it's not paying off. Surprised he fell the way he did. Think for the most part it pays to be true to your sound. Think DJ's get kinda high in poll then purposely try to broaden there sound and make it more commercial thinking they will get voted even higher. I don't think it works very well for them. I think Tiesto would still come in at number 3 if he was still playing only trance. I don't think his move to broaden his sound has made him any bigger. He was massive 5 years ago when he only played trance. G. Overall trance is really falling in the polls I think (minus Armada, Anjunabeats and there marketing machines.) This year I voted 1. Jerome Isma-Ae, 2. Jody Wisternoff, 3. Nic Fanciulli, 4. Mat Zo, 5. Koen Groeneveld Knowing what I know now I would have voted Jerome Isma-Ae (Still think he will be in the next 50), 2. Nic Fancuilli (also think he will be in next 50), 3. Markus Schulz, 4. Mat Zo, 5. Manuel De La Mare (next 50 maybe I think) or Dubfire.

Re. 'explosion of dance music'? The scene is on its a*** here in the UK. Good its growing elsewhere, if thats the case.

Re. Emery - how does he do it? 13? I remember him getting letters published in Mixmag, djmag and Muzik mag complaining bitterly that he wasnt getting a chance, then he broke through. But why? He's nothing special at all. The trance scene in the UK is on its arse, he's the second highest Brit on the list but he simply doesnt register on most fans radar here. Is he popular in the States or Europe or is he purely a beneficiary of Armada's marketing machine? Its a mystery.

Re. Schulz - he is a fundamental part of Armada! In fact its ruined him imo with his new style. But commercially its been the making of him.

Re. predictions - Fanciulli's most popular days are gone. He was top 50 a few years back. Jerome's got a long way to go too.

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Originally posted by Lotherton Hall Funny you should say that. I wouldnt say he is playing techno these days. 75% of the tunes he plays out (having heard him live twice in three months) are high octaine, trance based fodder with horrible electro stabs. He isnt the only trance dj doing this. In fact I am finding that the majority of trance djs that do not adhere to the melodic Anjunabeats style are doing much the same. Is this trouse? Whatever it is, imo its killing the scene, or at least torturing it. Im really struggling with trance now. It was (is?) my favourite genre and I go back to the early 90s with it so Im not aiming to dis the scene. Maybe Ive grown out of it? Trance djs seem to focus on electro tinged rubbish, melodic Anjunabeats tosh or psycadelia. Its just not for me. Im longing to hear some new, original hypnotic sounds. Can anyone recommend any before I bow out of the scene, maybe for good?

How is it killing the scene? It has made things exciting again. I am so sick of stupid 2 min breakdowns with pianos, violins, harps, and fairy dust. But that is just my taste.

Good for a group of trance DJs to stand up and do something different. Don't diss a style of music that does not fit your tastes. Instead find a circle of DJs that do play what you like and support them.

The whole trance scene has turned into everyone bitching and putting down DJs that do not super serve your what you want to hear, instead of finding and praising the stuff you actually do like.

Don't blame me I voted for SVD.

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Originally posted by Durrrtysouth How is it killing the scene? It has made things exciting again. I am so sick of stupid 2 min breakdowns with pianos, violins, harps, and fairy dust. But that is just my taste.

Not sure how Schulz' brand of trance is any better. Sure, it's a bit tougher than the usual Dash Berlin nonsense, but it's still a pale attempt at 'tech-trance' compared to the beasts Lieb used to release on the regular. Regardez:

So, erm, which post established, once and for all, that this is a superficial contest with no other merit than to establish commercial viability for DJ's arbitrarily designated in its ranking through a democratization which essentially values least objectionable over most deserving? Have we gotten there, yet? Anyone? You folks still arguing about who sucks worse and therefore didn't deserve their ranking?

I'm just glad I didn't see Skrillex #1 or in the Top 5 or 10.

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Originally posted by EddieZilker So, erm, which post established, once and for all, that this is a superficial contest with no other merit than to establish commercial viability for DJ's arbitrarily designated in its ranking through a democratization which essentially values least objectionable over most deserving? Have we gotten there, yet? Anyone? You folks still arguing about who sucks worse and therefore didn't deserve their ranking?

That post was made half a decade ago.

I do agree that Markus Schulz is playing much worse stuff than he used to play in 2004-2008, but at least he deserves to be in the top 10 and dilute those pop djs who call themselves trance producers.

What strikes me the most is that John '00' Fleming didn't even make it on the list. Unbelievable! I think he's one of a few guys who plays real trance music.

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Originally posted by Sykonee That post was made half a decade ago.

My point, exactly!

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Originally posted by farkhad What strikes me the most is that John '00' Fleming didn't even make it on the list. Unbelievable! I think he's one of a few guys who plays real trance music.

There's an obvious "That's because DJ Mag voters don't listen to real trance." joke there, but I'll refrain from saying it.





...Wait a minute!

I'm actually looking forward to TA's - Top 250 poll.

Wonder how far off it'll be from DJMag. Seeing how we're all supreme aficionados to all that is EDM.

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Originally posted by DJRYAN� I'm actually looking forward to TA's - Top 250 poll. Wonder how far off it'll be from DJMag. Seeing how we're all supreme aficionados to all that is EDM.

Nah, that one also gets spammed all to hell by Armin Acolytes. Just because hardly any of 'em post around here doesn't mean there ain't tons of 'em lurking in the shadows.

yeah. My picks won't get done. to get rid of it I typed in

I'm
Not
Voting
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So if "I'm" wins by 1 vote, I guess it's down to me

This was aired on Dutch TV on the day of the DJ Mag Poll event.

With English subtitles.

Armin van Buuren, Ferry Corsten, Sander van Doorn & Afrojack in Dutch TV-Show DWDD (2011)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3v_yRPppnKg&hd=1

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Originally posted by Sykonee Nah, that one also gets spammed all to hell by Armin Acolytes. Just because hardly any of 'em post around here doesn't mean there ain't tons of 'em lurking in the shadows.

nice said!

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Originally posted by Sykonee Nah, that one also gets spammed all to hell by Armin Acolytes. Just because hardly any of 'em post around here doesn't mean there ain't tons of 'em lurking in the shadows.

Same as in any forum, maybe 5% of the visitors post regularily.

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Originally posted by Woonyxoxo Same as in any forum, maybe 5% of the visitors post regularily.

Have a look at the last few pages in the voting discussion topic. Most of these guys have October 2011 as their registraton date. They surely can't all be regular visitors and lurkers.

quote: ShitSchulz has never been relevant, his crap mixes and productions belongs to the garbage all together. You just have bad taste in what you so called trance music..

well come on then, enlighten us as to your superior taste.

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Originally posted by Durrrtysouth How is it killing the scene? It has made things exciting again. I am so sick of stupid 2 min breakdowns with pianos, violins, harps, and fairy dust. But that is just my taste. Good for a group of trance DJs to stand up and do something different. Don't diss a style of music that does not fit your tastes. Instead find a circle of DJs that do play what you like and support them. The whole trance scene has turned into everyone bitching and putting down DJs that do not super serve your what you want to hear, instead of finding and praising the stuff you actually do like.

So I cant diss Schiltz but you can stupid 2 min breakdowns with pianos, violins, harps, and fairy dust? Im quite partial to fairy dust and deeply offended!

No, variety is the spice of life. But listening to Schulz this year I dont think he's playing much trance, 75% of it sounds like nasty electro to me. And he's not alone. I dont think its doing anything for the more purist, underground and less electro orientated scene For me its a shame, I loved Schulz work until the last 18 months.

As for 'a group of trance DJs to stand up and do something different', what are they doing that is different? Armin, Schulz, Emery, SHM, etal are all playing a similar style. Bandwagon jumping is the phrase that springs to mind.

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Originally posted by Bierheld Have a look at the last few pages in the voting discussion topic. Most of these guys have October 2011 as their registraton date. They surely can't all be regular visitors and lurkers.

Who are we then?

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Originally posted by Lotherton Hall So I cant diss Schiltz but you can stupid 2 min breakdowns with pianos, violins, harps, and fairy dust? Im quite partial to fairy dust and deeply offended! No, variety is the spice of life. But listening to Schulz this year I dont think he's playing much trance, 75% of it sounds like nasty electro to me. And he's not alone. I dont think its doing anything for the more purist, underground and less electro orientated scene For me its a shame, I loved Schulz work until the last 18 months. As for 'a group of trance DJs to stand up and do something different', what are they doing that is different? Armin, Schulz, Emery, SHM, etal are all playing a similar style. Bandwagon jumping is the phrase that springs to mind.

Not sure about the wranglings behind it all, but moving the old Armada night into "BE" at Space this year just didn't work. Saw Schulz there and he hardly dropped a trance record into his set, very tech-orientated.

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Originally posted by Lotherton Hall Who are we then?

Either someone who happened to have stumbled on TA at this exact time but is nevertheless interested in being a member of this community, or a promoter/bot employed by Armada to scour the internet for polls in which to spam their artists. Or a blind fanboy who does the same for no gain other then their own interests. Whatever those may be.

James Zabiela #94 really?

I hope that the mods on here are noticing the registration dates of voters and looking for trends with particular djs registering just to vote. they should have the right to remove the votes if they are suspicious.

its plain annoying how even the ta poll is now cause for djs to twitter and post on fb asking for votes. how many more polls can they beg us to vote in. they look desperate.

^LOL that's really happening? I guess this poll is the last stand for real trance music!!!

i'm sure the following things will hold true when the TA results are finally posted:
1. Armin is still #1
2. Markus scores higher than he did on DJMag
3. Guetta isn't in the top 5 (perhaps not even top 10)
4. much fewer hardstyle djs make the list, and we certainly won't see any of em in the top 20
5. skilled, established, and respected djs will generally all score higher than on the djmag poll (see: zabiela, j00f, sasha, digweed, etc)
6. An21 won't make the list, neither will max vangeli SO HELP ME GOD

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