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Originally posted by Richard Butler then got a nagging TA voice in my ear saying, 'mmm, it would be better if you made more of an Armin pluck'

What the TA voice meant to say was an Andy Blueman pluck. Now how could you reject that advice?

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Originally posted by Richard Butler Give you example from last night. I was quite happy with this little lead sound and then got a nagging TA voice in my ear saying, 'mmm, it would be better if you made more of an Armin pluck', so I stopped and shouted 'go fuk yourself'.

I have the same thought about your track as well. Maybe this will help:

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Originally posted by Beatflux I have the same thought about your track as well. Maybe this will help:

That's a decent pluck actually, mmmmmmmm

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Originally posted by Beatflux What did Shadow Hearts make?

I got 800� from licensing to ministry of sound compilation, about 1000e total from sales and i had a publishing deal and they got me another 1000e from some radio plays, if I remember right.

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Originally posted by MiikkaLeinonen Just for your info, i got royalty statements for some old tracks.. people keep asking here these "how much i get paid if i get a release " questions so i decided to share latest roaylty statements. I have received about 2k before but here you can see amount of sales and what i got etc.. Track was in top-10 of audiojelly trance chart and original (kingdom fall) sold 250 copies. --removed images-- But here's some info: ..... Costs & Expenses Mastering �-30.00 Promotion �-7.50 Remix1 �-20.80 Remix2 �-21.58 Remix3 �-9.62 Cover Artwork & Banners �-12.50 TOTAL �-102.00 Expense Share (50%) �-51.00 Digital Downloads [Full Release] 12 �7.90 (Original Mix) 245 �117.81 (Remix1) �74.56 (Remix2) �33.64 (Remix3) �65.08 TOTAL �298.99 Royalty Share (50%) �149.50 + compilation and streams �6.88 + �21.81 + �14.19 Total Royalty : �116.40 ..... This is the final statement of a great label. Not a signle bad word for a Alter Ego Records, dont know why they're quitting. Total income from these tracks are about 2k euros plus publishing what gave me about 1k euros top of this

All of the values are in euros right? Looked up the symbol and it said it was the lebanon pound....

The Euro symbol looks more like a C with two lines dashed through it.

Richard do you have reason? I can cook you up some sweet trance plucks/stabs.

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Originally posted by Beatflux All of the values are in euros right? Looked up the symbol and it said it was the lebanon pound.... The Euro symbol looks more like a C with two lines dashed through it.

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Originally posted by MSZ Richard do you have reason? I can cook you up some sweet trance plucks/stabs.

No I'm on Cubase5.
Thx.

I'm still on Cubase 4. I win the hardcore oldskool war.

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Originally posted by tehlord I'm still on Cubase 4. I win the hardcore oldskool war.

only because i don't use buzz any more

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Originally posted by MSZ

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Originally posted by Beatflux All of the values are in euros right? Looked up the symbol and it said it was the lebanon pound.... The Euro symbol looks more like a C with two lines dashed through it.

No. What the hell you're thinking? Its the intergalactic sign for the Swiss Toblerones which is something like 1/470 863 541 of earth money called "coins".

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Originally posted by MiikkaLeinonen No. What the hell you're thinking? Its the intergalactic sign for the Swiss Toblerones which is something like 1/470 863 541 of earth money called "coins".

Are you guys aware there's different curencies out there? DIFFERENT CURRENCY SYMBOLS? I ASK A LEGIT QUESTION AND I GET FLAMED FOR IT, WTF?

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Originally posted by Beatflux Are you guys aware there's different curencies out there? DIFFERENT CURRENCY SYMBOLS? I ASK A LEGIT QUESTION AND I GET FLAMED FOR IT, WTF?

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or

₤

or

�

Well? Which one do you mean? Jesus.

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Originally posted by DJ RANN � or ₤ or � Well? Which one do you mean? Jesus.

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Originally posted by MiikkaLeinonen Just for your info, i got royalty statements for some old tracks.. people keep asking here these "how much i get paid if i get a release " questions so i decided to share latest roaylty statements. I have received about 2k before but here you can see amount of sales and what i got etc.. Track was in top-10 of audiojelly trance chart and original (kingdom fall) sold 250 copies. --removed images-- But here's some info: ..... Costs & Expenses Mastering �-30.00 Promotion �-7.50 Remix1 �-20.80 Remix2 �-21.58 Remix3 �-9.62 Cover Artwork & Banners �-12.50 TOTAL �-102.00 Expense Share (50%) �-51.00 Digital Downloads [Full Release] 12 �7.90 (Original Mix) 245 �117.81 (Remix1) �74.56 (Remix2) �33.64 (Remix3) �65.08 TOTAL �298.99 Royalty Share (50%) �149.50 + compilation and streams �6.88 + �21.81 + �14.19 Total Royalty : �116.40 ..... This is the final statement of a great label. Not a signle bad word for a Alter Ego Records, dont know why they're quitting. Total income from these tracks are about 2k euros plus publishing what gave me about 1k euros top of this

No one commented on the royalty statement specifics I posted earlier. Here it is again.

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Originally posted by zodiac9 Far as I can tell the minimum payout is not in the contract. It's 90 euros if I remember right. Here's some of the details of a statement from last year. I'm not mentioning the name of the label. ___________________________________________________________________ royalties: Track Downloads, Streams, etc. 01/2011 - 06/2011 15(tracks) 0,00 EUR royalties: compilation downloads 5(tracks) 0,32 EUR royalties: compilation downloads 13(tracks) 0,83 EUR royalties: Track Downloads, Streams, etc. 01/2011 - 06/2011 22(tracks) 0,16 EUR ___________________________________________________________________

The contract says I get 35% from digital downloads. With the sales above, I'm not even getting anywhere near that. 13 tracks downloaded and only .83 EUR. Has anyone else seen a royalty statement like this? After seeing that royalty statement from Alter Ego Records, I'm going to see if I can get the label to explain and/or give me more details. The language barrier is a bit of an issue. There was a more recent statement where I had 118 downloads and streams, and that totaled to about 4,00 EUR. Again, this is an older label with a well established name, not a fly by night operation.

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Originally posted by zodiac9 No one commented on the royalty statement specifics I posted earlier. Here it is again. The contract says I get 35% from digital downloads. With the sales above, I'm not even getting anywhere near that. 13 tracks downloaded and only .83 EUR. Has anyone else seen a royalty statement like this? After seeing that royalty statement from Alter Ego Records, I'm going to see if I can get the label to explain and/or give me more details. The language barrier is a bit of an issue. There was a more recent statement where I had 118 downloads and streams, and that totaled to about 4,00 EUR. Again, this is an older label with a well established name, not a fly by night operation.

Is there any chance they ran a free promotion? I publish eBooks and I know if I run a free promotion it lists those downloads with the paid sales (with nothing differentiating them). So I have literally had thousands of downloads in a cycle and barely any royalties listed next to it. Now, I know the reason since I am the publisher and chose to run the promotion. But if I didn't tell someone I was working with and just forwarded the statement then they would wonder why they were only getting a few bucks. Just an idea.

I had a remix with bonzai, I didnt have a clue about anything at the time being fresh as fuck, I asked them for information, they were fucking cunts. let me find the email.

le me:

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Question regarding a remix release: greets, I released under MSZ and did a remix for you guys over at bonzai. Artois - coffee & cigarettes (MSZ remix) I havent seen any royalties, can you give me any information on this? i've noticed it was also featured on a compilation. all the best

le bonzai:

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On 05 Oct 2010, at 18:45, INFO @ BONZAI PROGRESSIVE wrote: > another one who thinks he's gonna get rich... >

I believe they had like a 200 dollar payout minimum or something.

yea suck my dick.

is this for real ?

Like they won't even issue you a statement ? What does your label have to say about this ? Fucking disgusting. Do they have an american office ?

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Originally posted by MSZ I had a remix with bonzai, I didnt have a clue about anything at the time being fresh as fuck, I asked them for information, they were fucking cunts. let me find the email. le me: le bonzai: I believe they had like a 200 dollar payout minimum or something. yea suck my dick.

If you are accurately describing what happened that is absurd. All you did was politely ask for documentation. That is like someone being offended at being asked to sign a contract or something.

They couldn't be this fucking overt with how little they care. I mean this is just ridiculous. I mean it angers me that they are fucking people over, but even more so that they do it in such a transparent way. I mean not even a , we will look into it form mail. This is something i would probably pay someone to start breaking knee caps over. It is just disgusting. And that guy who has such little disregard for people doesn't deserve his 2 legs.

Im just pasting the emails word by word. I complained then they sent me the statement. But fuck, thats not how you treat people.

is mistique your current label ?

Yea it is run by nice people right now, I trust them anyway. Im easy to trust though.

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Originally posted by MSZ Im just pasting the emails word by word. I complained then they sent me the statement. But fuck, thats not how you treat people.

Do you have the name of the guy. Or is it a one man show. Surely there must be more than you out there.

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