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Posted by Joss Weatherby on Apr-09-2013 17:59:

quote:
Originally posted by idoru
http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/20...ropaganda-mean/



I'm telling you guys, they're doing this for their own "benefit" (I use that word very loosely) internally, and to make themselves feel as though they actually have some sort of an impact on the world stage. That's it.


No one is doubting that Jake. It's more of a worry over an accidental incident.


Posted by idoru on Apr-09-2013 18:01:

Oh, so we're all getting our panties in a wad over nothing, then.


Posted by enydo on Apr-09-2013 18:33:

Well, maybe nothing, but maybe not. They probably wont actually DO anything, but there is a small chance some sort of communications misstep or confusion could escalate into an actual conflict.


Posted by Lagrangian on Apr-09-2013 18:36:

They don't have the technology to nuke the U.S. But they could target their neighbors. China's a fucking bitch, she hasn't said anything about N. Korea's threats because they're both sleeping together. Rest assure, one hit to South Korea, Japan, or other ally of the U.S within the radii of interest will trigger a bellicose response from America.


Posted by Lews on Apr-09-2013 20:05:

quote:
Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
No one is doubting that Jake. It's more of a worry over an accidental incident.


This.

That's why the US is being careful with their rhetoric now, since the Navy/someone fucked up the other day. Don't want to accidentally start something due to miscommunication.


Posted by Joss Weatherby on Apr-09-2013 20:55:

quote:
Originally posted by idoru
Oh, so we're all getting our panties in a wad over nothing, then.


No, because the rhetoric is very high and that increases tensions. You can't just ignore a country that is threatening nuclear war, especially in such an outright manner. There really is no precedent on how to handle a situation like this, where the threats are overt and the capability is real.

So its not a "over nothing" situation. There is firm justification to raise the level of defenses and there is a real possibility that some random incident from an otherwise totally benign actor could spark a real conflict.

You don't want to trifle with nations that are armed to the teeth and ready to fight.


You have to remember that on the border there is no "release authority" that is actually very strong for conventional weapons systems. All you need is an itchy trigger finger or random battery commander (or even gun crew) to get pissed or go nuts and they can start a massive war. Its literally in the hands of tens of thousands of individuals who may or may not be entirely rational.


Posted by idoru on Apr-09-2013 21:32:

I know, I know. I was just kidding around, damn.


Posted by itsamemario on Apr-09-2013 22:13:

quote:
Originally posted by geroin


haha so silly


Posted by itsamemario on Apr-09-2013 22:17:

quote:
Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
No one is doubting that Jake. It's more of a worry over an accidental incident.


What the fuck are you talking about? An accidental incident would bleak in comparison to the effects of an incidental accident.


Posted by Halcyon+On+On on Apr-10-2013 17:36:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/11/w...sile.html?_r=1&

Well yeah.


Posted by srussell0018 on Apr-10-2013 17:43:

Where is Lews? I can't make any informed decisions on this topic without his expert Political Science opinions.


Posted by OrangestO on Apr-10-2013 17:51:

quote:
Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/11/w...sile.html?_r=1&

Well yeah.


I didn't know the AP had a bureau in North Korea.

quote:
The Associated Press, which has a bureau in the North Korean capital, Pyongyang, reported on Wednesday that despite warnings from their leaders of impending nuclear war, residents of Pyongyang gave no sense of panic, with people planting trees and dancing in the plazas ahead of the holiday


Of course they were.


Posted by srussell0018 on Apr-10-2013 17:53:

Just like they were all overcome with sadness when Kim Jong Il died.


Posted by Alex on Apr-11-2013 20:46:

Why did the chicken cross the road?

To escape North Korea's long range missiles!


Posted by Zharen on Apr-11-2013 20:56:

quote:
Originally posted by Lagrangian
They don't have the technology to nuke the U.S. But they could target their neighbors. China's a fucking bitch, she hasn't said anything about N. Korea's threats because they're both sleeping together. Rest assure, one hit to South Korea, Japan, or other ally of the U.S within the radii of interest will trigger a bellicose response from America.



Posted by Joss Weatherby on Apr-12-2013 01:44:

LOL so China took Obama's call for help a little too seriously...

http://english.chosun.com/site/data...3041200566.html

They moved an entire corps to the North Korean border.


Posted by itsamemario on Apr-12-2013 02:15:

That's not what that article said at all.


Posted by Joss Weatherby on Apr-12-2013 02:22:

quote:
Originally posted by itsamemario
That's not what that article said at all.


Actually it is you mental midget:

quote:
China recently moved an Army corps close to the North Korean border and staged a live-fire exercise with tanks and self-propelled guns.

Experts believe Beijing is taking no chances in case a North Korean provocation leads to an emergency.


Posted by itsamemario on Apr-12-2013 04:59:

Yeah, I was thinking more in the lines of your Obama comment, but I guess you're too smart to remember your own words.
Also, your post lacks about three commas. Right now it's nonsensical [word like tirade or harangue, only shorter], only intelligible at the discretion of the reader. There's like four different meanings of that sentence, all depending on where you put commas.

Nowhere in that article is Obama, USA, heck even America as a continent, mentioned. Which makes your comment pure speculation on your part. You are presenting the case as though PLA are moving forces closer to border as a result of a statement made by Obama, and that simply is not true. They have been mobilizing forces along the border since April 1.


Posted by Joss Weatherby on Apr-12-2013 05:29:

quote:
Originally posted by itsamemario
Yeah, I was thinking more in the lines of your Obama comment, but I guess you're too smart to remember your own words.
Also, your post lacks about three commas. Right now it's nonsensical [word like tirade or harangue, only shorter], only intelligible at the discretion of the reader. There's like four different meanings of that sentence, all depending on where you put commas.

Nowhere in that article is Obama, USA, heck even America as a continent, mentioned. Which makes your comment pure speculation on your part. You are presenting the case as though PLA are moving forces closer to border as a result of a statement made by Obama, and that simply is not true. They have been mobilizing forces along the border since April 1.



Obviously humor is lost on you, as I was referring to something else entirely, in that the US has asked China to reign in Pyongyang.

Get your dick out of your ear and quit being so literal.


Posted by itsamemario on Apr-12-2013 06:14:

quote:
Originally posted by Joss Weatherby
Obviously humor is lost on you, as I was referring to something else entirely, in that the US has asked China to reign in Pyongyang.

Get your dick out of your ear and quit being so literal.


Whatever dude. You're so not worth the effort.


Posted by Lagrangian on Apr-12-2013 12:12:

'Let's talk about sexy baby lets talk about you and me'

We need more black people in this forum


Posted by Marcus Summers on Apr-12-2013 12:31:

quote:
Originally posted by Lagrangian
We need more black people in this forum


Nah, I'm good.


Posted by srussell0018 on Apr-12-2013 12:39:

Goddamn Mario is an idiot.


Posted by idoru on Apr-12-2013 14:37:

quote:
Originally posted by srussell0018
Goddamn Mario is an idiot.


Better put a comma after "Goddamn" before Mario gets pissed at you, too!


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