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uh-huh

Who gives a fuck what Tiesto says , His been Djing most of his life and wants a change.(BTW he still kicks ass)

Vinyl forever.

CD's and PIONEER CDJ 1000's RULE !

vinyl will disappear in time...

I'm not sure about that. Vinyl has the advantage that you SEE what kind of music that's coming up. You dont have that with cd's. Unless you use a computer, but there the options are limited again...

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Originally posted by Tiger777 I'm not sure about that. Vinyl has the advantage that you SEE what kind of music that's coming up. You dont have that with cd's. Unless you use a computer, but there the options are limited again...

More advanced CD players offer the user wavetables, which basically displays the volume levels of the entire track. That's comparable to grooves on a vinyl.

As technology adcvances, better mediums will be discovered and vinyl will disapper, I don't understand how people can't see thet

Possibly, but i dont think vinyl will disapear in the next 10 years

CD and Vinyl in tandem is cool...lots of DJs do that..I saw PvD in Chicago mixing in lots of CDs...i do it on my computer all the time, mixing in MP3s to Vinyl and vice versa, with an external 3-channel mixer

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Originally posted by rickscarf CD and Vinyl in tandem is cool...lots of DJs do that..I saw PvD in Chicago mixing in lots of CDs...i do it on my computer all the time, mixing in MP3s to Vinyl and vice versa, with an external 3-channel mixer

Their still a difference between mixing cd's and vinyl and stolen/ripped mp3's

yes! you LEECHER

i cant believe this is still going on

im my opinion i think that they are roughly the same, although the cdjs (p1oneers, d3non are duff) have an load of advantages over the analouge turntables, i have been playing the technics for about 3+ years and i must say they are quality although i recently bought a set of cdj 800s and was truly amazed, i think the people that cd djs are crap etc are full of hot air, the new gen of cd decks are superior to vinyl, ppl must think everyones on about cdj 100's (compared to vinyl) not 1000s - 800s. they are exactly the same as vinyl with a hell of a lot more features, only thing is the platter dont spin but only reason i can think any dj needs it to spin is if he/she is into scratching (and their aint many in dance that are), pitch control etc is superb .05 accuracy plus its pretty hard on the techs to get a precise pitch without having to 'manipulate the record or pitch bend'.sum it up guys and gals, until u rock it, dont even dream about knocking it (oh and tiesto is glad to see the new gen cdjs)

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Originally posted by Dj-Steve Ok, you pay for a vinyl record, but you pay the ISP you have to get that mp3 you want... You still have rights. And u r so *%@#$!#(%&* that you think that i proved your point! Re-read it and then come again to talk to me. I will ignore everything you say from now on in this thread because you know NOTHING about the stuff we are talking about! Peace

YOu pay the ISP, but the artist doesn't get a cent of that money (usually). I know they have some pay mp3sites, so in that case it would be different.

Dave

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The twist.
Normally this question is really for someone who's gonna buy either the "been there since DJing started" vinyl decks, or up-and-coming cd decks. Perhaps this sin't the place to post this question, but I've got about $3000 (cdn) to spend, and im wondering: should i invest in both? Or will that fuck me up because i won't be able to get used to either or something of that sort? Could it be the best investment to get the best of both worlds?

I posted something along this line in a recent post. I'll recap here.

I personally think that it is best to have and learn both. To make a long post short Pick one or the other as your primary medium. I personally have cds. I have one TT to go with it, and then when I buy my music, it is usually in vinyl, unless I can only get CD. I record the vinyl to CD to make a master copy, then burn that to CD. My CD decks are much more portable, stable and robust over TTs. If I want to modify the music, record at a certain BPM, trim the begining or end of a track, or just record the track with some perfected effects in it... For me, CD is the answer to be able to do all of this and do it at a very cheap price. Not only that, but if someone steals my music or it gets "lost" on the plane etc (which has happened recently to Dj Irish from Digitally Imported) then I can rebuild my music collection in short order.

Despite all of this, I still find that it is important to learn how to mix on TTs. That is why I have one--so that I can mix with it when I'm messing around. One day after I slow my spending on vinyl, home improvements and car parts etc. then I will buy a second TT.

My advise to you is to do one of two things. Buy really nice CD decks OR really nice TTs, and then a very decent mixer, or to get really nice decks or TTs and ONE deck or TT, so that you have two of your primary medium deck/TT and one of your secondary medium. Then along with this, get a semi-decent cheap mixer and save up for a better one at a later date.

I always waited till Bdays or Xmas and asked my parents to put a certain amount towards a very expensive item that I wanted. It has always worked out

Re: i cant believe this is still going on

I'm pretty good on cdj's but am definietly going to learn on TTs. Will also encode all my vinyl onto cd eventually :P

in my opinion, if you truely have a passion for music, you should go for vinyl, thats the most 'pure' music experiance there is (right now)

[edit] but thats just my opinion offcourse [/edit]

Excellent answer

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Originally posted by DJ_Shockwav sorry, but this topic has been beaten to death and flame wars have erupted just do a search and you'll find the answers you seek but basically, it does come down to personal preferance you really can't compare though, it's like apples and oranges

I have seen this question come up so many times on many different msg boards and it always leads to flame wars. I don't DJ but if I did, I'd spin CD's and throw in a few vinyl to keep the PURIST happy. But like you say, it's like comparing apples and oranges and comes down to personal choice; not who's right and who is wrong.

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well sence everyones putting there word in on this subject i my as well i use my laptop when im playing and eather pcdj red or trackstart dj studio i also have 2 cd rom drives to go along with it all i do is upload the songs onto the laptop or play live of the cds it works great becouse i get multiuse out of my laptop and dont have to go out and buy a cd dj system as well as a vinal im curently buying a new vinal system becouse I LOVE vinal i play most of my mixing on vinal and only when iv been working on a track befor hand that iv made of my own or that is very complicated i use the cd's becouse with the computer i can put in 4 decks, record my own samples then mix of these ect. for me its worked out great a combanation of the good and the new...now i just have to weight for one of YOU to call me stupid

HaHa! I just noticed I look like a mix between Sasha and PVD! That's a laugh. Even mi amigos think so. They are probably the world's biggest 2 djs, but that's besides the point.
Anyways, let's end the war right here. Big-name DJs like the ones above have used cdj's just like the way they've used standard turntables. It's all a matter of preference (and the fact that they get sent cdr's in the mail from producers). Why compare them and say vinyl is better? They're different. Just like the way some might like a flavour over another. As a TRU DJ you should be good at both, when the scene innovates, you should too. I prefer vinyl, since its really a classic and buying vinyls can be great cause I find it a bitch to track down all the tracks I want from CDS' while vinyl is still the standard for releases. the point is, I don't care if a DJ is spinning CDs, I DO however mind that if they somehow are playing at a club with illegal cdr's (downloaded, not burned from vinyl, that's ok) because really what does a DJ do? They play other people's music and get payed for it. It's a double whammy if you got a gig and you're playing on illegal cdr's and getting payed for it. YOU DIDN'T EVEN PAY THE PRODUCER THE MONEY THAT THEY ARE ENTITLED TO WHEN YOU"RE GETTING PAYED TO PLAY THEIR MUSIC IN YOUR MIX! That i think is low, i don't care (as much) if someone's got cdr's for their bedroom to practise on, but the producer is always entitled to the money. A lot of the time the producer's on a small record label, so it's not even like Sony Music for example is getting payed 95% of the sale. The cdj's are perfectly fine IMO and good quality cdj decks do offer a close feel to vinyl and sound quality. I'm still all for vinyl though it's the classic and it's nice. As long as you got a job to fulfill youre hobby, vinyls are great cause you know that you've got a huge selection of tracks easy to have access too if you know where to look.

WATEVER U PREFER IS BETTER

I PLAY WIT CD;S, ONLY CD'S NO VINYL. BUT THATS ME, ITS NOT YOU. YOU PLAY WIT WAT U LIKE, ITS THE SAME THING BOTH WAYS.

i stick with the vinyl, dunno just add's that special thing about music .. give's me a better feeling .. of controlling it ..

never the less, i will buy a cd deck just to go with the flow .. i mean the mixing wont be different, only the technix

My experience is that CD's mix easier...

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Originally posted by Tiger777 My experience is that CD's mix easier...

Which is complete bullshit, the only real difference would be the cue point, which takes about 5-6 seconds longer to find on a vinyl, big difference.

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Originally posted by Mister_Michel I've followed the whole discussion, and I am planning on buying 2 cd-decks or 2 phono's, but I don't know which one yet. So basically you say that cd's have a better sound quality, but the best songs(and mostly by unknown artists) come out on vinyl and not on cd don't they?

From reading what others do I'm going to buy a better turntable, and more vinyls. Then I'll save them as wav files to preserve them hehe.
Then i can sell many of the vinyls, but still keep some really special ones.

Dave

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