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| Originally posted by hardcore trancer Hey dont push it there!! |
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| Originally posted by DrummeRaver86 Boy, you've got fuckin' issues. Your problem is you can dish it up, but you can't take it. Hey, all's fair in love and war. |
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| Originally posted by hardcore trancer aaaah man relax,take some chill pills,it is INTERNET FFS!!!just drop it.We are cool aight? |
Please, spare me the sentimental bullshit. All you do on these forums is insult people, maybe it's time you got a taste of it.
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| Originally posted by DrummeRaver86 Ohhh..so now after I discipline you, you've decided to be cool? Please, spare me the sentimental bullshit. All you do on these forums is insult people, maybe it's time you got a taste of it. |
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| Originally posted by hardcore trancer go ahead insult me all u want,it is FUCKIN INTERNET!! Iam not a sensative bitch like you,you got beef with me come say it to my face by all means,and btw I dont insult people,if they do something to me or disrespect me I will fight back by all means. Now if you wanna continue fighting back about everything I say here,then be it,remember you CANT SHUT ME UP.There is no winner when it comes to internet. I just gave u a chance to finish all the stupid fighting,and you refused.ok then have a nice day. |
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| Originally posted by melech_mike Awwww... *passes a tissue* my poor little baby! |
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Originally posted by hardcore trancer |
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| Originally posted by Viber who is your friend? |
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| Originally posted by Cyrus King A secret IDF officer who shoots random people |
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| Originally posted by Viber its not an idf uniforms |
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| Originally posted by hardcore trancer go ahead insult me all u want,it is FUCKIN INTERNET!! Iam not a sensative bitch like you,you got beef with me come say it to my face by all means,and btw I dont insult people,if they do something to me or disrespect me I will fight back by all means. Now if you wanna continue fighting back about everything I say here,then be it,remember you CANT SHUT ME UP.There is no winner when it comes to internet. I just gave u a chance to finish all the stupid fighting,and you refused.ok then have a nice day. |
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| Originally posted by DrummeRaver86 You've obviously never met a guy from Jersey. I'll fight you, don't doubt it. Now, tell me, how did you come to the conclusion that am a "sensative bitch"? Obviously your problem is that you can bring the heat, but for someone to do the same to you is out of your league. Your problem is that you expect to have everything your way. The truth is that you can't have everything your way. So, when I started to become agressive, you automatcially backed off, not having expected such a rash reaction. Don't bother telling me I'm wrong, because I know I'm right. Actually, to predict what would happen, you WILL respond to this post, and once again you will tell me something along the lines of I'm a sensative bitch and I'm not perfect and you gave me the chance to close out the subject. I'm not looking to shut you up. I know that that objective is impossible and any attempt to shut you up is ultimately futile. I also believe that bickering over the internet is a rather childish deed. What I'm trying to do is show you the error of your ways in a grown-up manner..CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM!! I would gladly read any criticisms you have of me, as long as they are not beligerent and they would help me in some way. Like I said, I believe in progress. |
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| Originally posted by Cyrus King Its a JOKE you moron |
SHLOMI SHELLING
On Sunday, Hezbullah terrorists fired shells on the northern Israeli town of Shlomi, killing 16-year old Haviv Dadon and wounding several other Israeli civilians. In response, the Israeli Air Force targeted Hezbullah launching pads on the southern Lebanese border.
Since these two events occurred just hours apart, most news outlets issued one report to cover both. The question: Whose actions made the headlines?
This is a classic example of media bias that HonestReporting has been addressing for years: Despite the fact that Israel was responding to a deadly provocation that violated international law, headlines portray Israel as the aggressor. For example:
MSNBC: "Israel bombs Hizballah in Lebanon"
Reuters: "Israeli Warplanes Raid South Lebanon"
The Age (Australia): "Israeli planes strike Lebanon"
Associated Press: "Israeli Warplanes Blast Hezbollah Areas"
[An earlier AP headline seemed to confer statehood on the Hezbollah terror group: "Shelling in Hezbollah Kills 1, Hurts 4" ]
By withholding the report of Hezbullah's deadly terror attack until the body of the articles, these media outlets falsely suggest that Israel initiated the violent exchange.
By comparison, here's a balanced headline from the Casper (Wyoming) Star-Tribune: "Israeli boy killed in Hezbollah shelling; Israel responds by attacking targets in Lebanon."
We encourage you to monitor your local paper. Did its headline focus exclusively on the Israeli response? If so, write to your local editor, emphasizing the following points:
1) Why was the Israeli strike deemed more significant, justifying a headline, while Hezbollah's deadly terror provocation against civilians was relegated to the body of the article?
2) Why did the headline deviate from chronological order by naming the Israeli strike before the terror attack that precipitated it?
3) Given the fact that many readers see only headlines, doesn't this headline misrepresent the day's full events in the region?
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| Originally posted by melech_mike SHLOMI SHELLING On Sunday, Hezbullah terrorists fired shells on the northern Israeli town of Shlomi, killing 16-year old Haviv Dadon and wounding several other Israeli civilians. In response, the Israeli Air Force targeted Hezbullah launching pads on the southern Lebanese border. Since these two events occurred just hours apart, most news outlets issued one report to cover both. The question: Whose actions made the headlines? This is a classic example of media bias that HonestReporting has been addressing for years: Despite the fact that Israel was responding to a deadly provocation that violated international law, headlines portray Israel as the aggressor. For example: MSNBC: "Israel bombs Hizballah in Lebanon" Reuters: "Israeli Warplanes Raid South Lebanon" The Age (Australia): "Israeli planes strike Lebanon" Associated Press: "Israeli Warplanes Blast Hezbollah Areas" [An earlier AP headline seemed to confer statehood on the Hezbollah terror group: "Shelling in Hezbollah Kills 1, Hurts 4" ] By withholding the report of Hezbullah's deadly terror attack until the body of the articles, these media outlets falsely suggest that Israel initiated the violent exchange. By comparison, here's a balanced headline from the Casper (Wyoming) Star-Tribune: "Israeli boy killed in Hezbollah shelling; Israel responds by attacking targets in Lebanon." We encourage you to monitor your local paper. Did its headline focus exclusively on the Israeli response? If so, write to your local editor, emphasizing the following points: 1) Why was the Israeli strike deemed more significant, justifying a headline, while Hezbollah's deadly terror provocation against civilians was relegated to the body of the article? 2) Why did the headline deviate from chronological order by naming the Israeli strike before the terror attack that precipitated it? 3) Given the fact that many readers see only headlines, doesn't this headline misrepresent the day's full events in the region? |
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| Originally posted by melech_mike Hezbullah |
I like the misspelling "hezballa" better
Sounds ghetto :P
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| Originally posted by DrummeRaver86 this isn't even spelled right. |

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| Originally posted by DrummeRaver86 this isn't even spelled right. |
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| Originally posted by melech_mike I misspelled a terror organizations dirty name; you rolled your eyes. Pathetic! I'm not even going to continue with the rest of what I'd like to say, for the sake of this discussion. ![]() |
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| Originally posted by Viber i think its good to mispell it ,it shows disreaspect |
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| Originally posted by daffodil I'm going to stick my journalist nose in here. Accuracy is essential to reporting. This thread is titled "honest reporting" so start with correct spellings. I've really only read the last page of the thread so I'm sure it has mutated from it's original topic. I saw three different spellings in your original post quoting (I think) a story titled "Shlomi Shelling." Which is correct? I'm horrified that the AP and MSNBC can't even get spellings right. In all of my journalism classes, a factual inaccuracy (misspelled name, incorrect date, etc.) automatically fails your for the assignment even if it's a midterm or final and there's a good reason for it: accuracy. Many news articles seem dishonest or skewed simply because a reporter has not checked for accuracy. Accurate spelling is just one step toward a thorough and unbiased story. This is something of a personal rant because misspellings are like nails on a chalkboard to me. |
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| Originally posted by Viber i think its good to mispell it ,it shows disreaspect |
WHO GOT HURT?
On Tuesday, Palestinian suicide bombers in Ariel and Rosh HaAyin murdered two Israelis � 18-year old Erez Hershkovitz and 43-year old Yechezkel Yekutiel � and wounded more than ten. Hamas perpetrated the Ariel attack, and Fatah's Al-Aksa Brigades carried out the Rosh HaAyin killing.
The most egregiously biased report on Tuesday's terror attacks came from the Christian Science Monitor, whose homepage headline read: "Suicide attacks jolt Mideast peace hopes; Bombings may hurt Palestinian effort to stop Israel's barrier":
The text of the article first indicates that the bombings "threaten to undermine the Palestinian Authority's campaign to stop Israel's barrier," and only afterward notes that the terror attack "left two Israelis dead and 11 wounded." The bulk of the article then continues to address not the bloody terror attack itself, but the damage it caused to the Palestinian anti-fence campaign.
Apparently, the warped moral compass of CSM determined that the most serious injury the twin suicide bombings inflicted was not to actual human victims, but to the "hurt" Palestinian political goals.
Beyond this grave insensitivity, CSM twists this story 180 degrees: The attacks illustrate the clear need for the security fence � whose very purpose is to prevent suicide bombings. Instead, CSM tries to use the attacks to arouse sympathy for those opposed to the fence.
How ironic that CSM prides itself on following the mandate: "To injure no man, but to bless all mankind...to reach many homes with healing, purifying thought."
We doubt the families of Erez Hershkovitz and Yechezkel Yekutiel are gaining much "healing" or "purifying thought" from CSM's insensitivity toward their victimhood.
Comments to: CSM's feedback page
--- BROADER COVERAGE OF TWIN ATTACKS ---
In covering Tuesday's attacks, many news reports promoted two falsities:
1) that the twin attacks were an abrupt break from a Palestinian cease-fire; and
2) that Hamas' bomb was a "revenge attack" for an IDF anti-terror raid four days earlier.
1) What "Cease-fire"?
Fiction: USA Today stated, "Two Palestinian suicide bombers broke militant groups' 6-week-old cease-fire Tuesday."
Fact: Since the beginning of the hudna on June 28, 35 Israelis have been killed or wounded in 180 attacks by Palestinian terrorists. An additional four Israelis have been victims of suspected Palestinian kidnappings. In addition, Israeli security services have foiled 36 planned "major attacks" since June 28.
Palestinian attacks since the "cease-fire" include:
- an Israeli woman killed by a Palestinian suicide bomber at Moshav Kfar Ya'vetz (July 7)
- an Israeli man stabbed to death by a Palestinian on Tel Aviv's beachfront promenade (July 15)
- an Israeli man stabbed in Jerusalem's Yemin Moshe neighborhood (July 20)
- an Israeli man stabbed while riding his bicycle in Jerusalem by four Arab assailants (July 23)
- an 11-year-old girl wounded by Palestinian gunfire (July 28)
- four Israelis wounded in an ambush shooting near Jerusalem (August 3)
- six Israelis injured by a rocket attack, fired from a Gaza area under PA control (August 9)
[For more details, go to the homepage of IsraelInsider � look for the section called "Specials," and the link to "Security Incidents Map and Timeline"]
Clearly, Tuesday's twin suicide bombings did not "break" any cease-fire. The only unusual aspect of these attacks is that they were more dramatic than the stabbings and kidnappings that characterized the past six weeks.
Comments to USA Today: [email protected][/email]
2) Palestinian "retaliation"?
Fiction: Associated Press described Tuesday's suicide bombing as a "revenge attack" for an IDF anti-terror raid four days earlier against Hamas.
Fact: Last week, the Israeli Shin Bet security service announced they were following twelve active warnings of planned attacks, including five warnings of suicide bombings originating from the West Bank. The IDF anti-terror raid on Askar � the pretext for Hamas' "retaliation" � took place on Friday. Tuesday's attacks, therefore, had almost certainly been in the works long before the Askar events.
The media have continually rationalized Palestinian terror attacks as retaliation for IDF actions. For example, the June 11 bus bombing in Jerusalem that killed 17 Israelis was spun by most media outlets as retaliation for the IDF attempt on Hamas leader Rantisi's life, one day earlier. However, a Hamas accomplice to the bombing has now confirmed to Israeli police that the Jerusalem attack was planned by Hamas an entire month beforehand.
Comments to Associated Press: [email][email protected]
none of this matters
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| Originally posted by Eisbaer none of this matters |
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