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Originally posted by Ze TranceLover if you die, that will be their fault! we all have the risk to have terrorists acts EVERYWHERE in the world now. They (some crazy terrorists) said at tv that they are ready to die... BUSH need to return at school and learn the definition of this word : PEACE. but unfortunately, for him it's too hard to understand this word.

I am taking back the comment i made cause it was rude, and ignorant..... however, maybe you need to learn what peace is IN REAL LIFE. Peace is not just a word in book. Peace is a way of life, an idea, and ultimatly a goal. This goal is not free. You have to work for it. sometimes you have to fight for it; cause if you don't, some one will take it from you or others. the only reason why the french have peace now is because of U.N./American Protection, so you keep that in mind when you start throwing the word around like you REALLY know what it is, and where it comes from. Imo your people have forgotten how quickly peace can be taken away from you, you forget so quickly the blood it cost to get that peace back for you, and ensure your human rights to freedom as well. Where i come from it's live free or die, and in america we beleive it is better to die on your feet then live on your knees... so i pray for the iraqi who may die, but i am happy for those who will survive and live to be free people, free to complain about whatever they want. even if it be americans......

Maybe you people would understand the word peace more had your people earned it.....

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Originally posted by HardTrance81 I think it is a good coincidence that your avatar is a big ugly open mouth cause i think all your french people do is.... TALK SHIT!!!!!! I canno stund you, you frunch silly fish! Your mudda was a hampster, and you fadder smelled of endo-berries!!!!!!

your reply isn't much better.. remember, you're part of the "THINK BEFORE YOU ACT Alliance 2003".

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How dare you do a VETO to usa afet what they done to you all over the years, when ever you need help you got , and you didn't pay the money back after WWI.

Newsflash, France didn't call for a veto, simply because the US didn't even bring the matter to the security council, therefore there was nothing France could put a veto on.

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Originally posted by Robert your reply isn't much better.. remember, you're part of the "THINK BEFORE YOU ACT Alliance 2003".

your right, but what i am I going to say to his post? It's not worth it saying anything intelligent because he will ignore it, post another incoherent reply saying "fuck this, fuck that." it's hard for me not to get aggravated with people like this, they are ignorant, and make no sense. It's like they almost REFUSE to see another side, ignoring it like we made it up. people get on these forums and they start posting swears telling every one they are wrong and then when some one says something against them they say they're biased and that we ignoring them and that our government is telling us lies..... and they refuse to even think that their government could be possibly telling them lies..... maybe both governments are...... my point is that people like ze trancelover are cleary close minded, not because he is french, but because he is ignorant. He, among others cant even hold simple arguments let alone debates, why should we take anything he post seriously or respect him for that matter. I am not aggravated because he doesn't know, i am bothered cause he does not want to. i will take back my previous post...

ok....there are obviously too many stupid posts here.....
How about we use the 'political discussions' thread! Then maybe some of you might learn a little bit more, see other sides of the discussion, and then post something worth reading....

I don't know why the French of all people are taking the route they are. I can understand Germany or Russia, China etc Protesting but France.

They have been invaded by Germany twice in the last 100 years. They should realise that appeasment doesn't work.

And to think that we helped to liberate them twice.


Also, they have decided to let Robert Mugabe of Zimbabwe attend the Arica Nations in France when they knew there was a travel order banning him from doing so ending Just days before. This was done just to infuriate the English.

In addition, The French have been most undiplomatic about the whole immigration issue and the closing of the refugee camp at Sangatte.


Why oh why are the French such a pain

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Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0 Newsflash, France didn't call for a veto, simply because the US didn't even bring the matter to the security council, therefore there was nothing France could put a veto on.

NEWSFLASH: On Friday (2 days before the summit at the Azores) Chirac openly said that he would veto ANY new resolution proposed by the US and Britian, NO MATTER WHAT THE CICUMSTANCES. This is a fact. Why should the US be bothered to go through this procedure then? France is hypocirtical. France amongst other countires fucked this whole process of disarmament up. Totally.

You cannot pass a resolution which basically says "this is your last chance, if u dont comply face consequences" and then, when there is a clear breach, step back and say "lets wait and see".

fuck that

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Originally posted by TranceGiant NEWSFLASH: On Friday (2 days before the summit at the Azores) Chirac openly said that he would veto ANY new resolution proposed by the US and Britian, NO MATTER WHAT THE CICUMSTANCES. This is a fact. Why should the US be bothered to go through this procedure then? France is hypocirtical. France amongst other countires fucked this whole process of disarmament up. Totally. You cannot pass a resolution which basically says "this is your last chance, if u dont comply face consequences" and then, when there is a clear breach, step back and say "lets wait and see". fuck that

w3rd... sayin' "this is ur last chance" and ignoring that claim when the time comes is WEAK.

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Originally posted by HardTrance81 WE ARE IN DEBT BECAUSE WE HAVE LENDED ALL OUR FUCKING CASH TO EVERY ONE IN THE WORLD AND NO ONE HAS PAID US BACK!!!!!! We owe the money to ourselves... nt any othe country... if you CAN READ why dont you look it up on the net and it will tell you where the money comes from and where it is spent....! THINK god damn it.... THINK!!!!!!

you do that much of the money goes to israel..like billions of dollars each year..and offcourse they never pay back..my predictions are we wont get sadam..lots of money and life will be lost on the war..forign relations will be screwed..IS IT WORTH IT?

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Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0 Newsflash, France didn't call for a veto, simply because the US didn't even bring the matter to the security council, therefore there was nothing France could put a veto on.

France threatened to veto any motion that the US/UK put foward (whatever it might say)

In effect it's worse than a veto because it's being used as a political tool. Something that doesn't promote democracy.

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NEWSFLASH: On Friday (2 days before the summit at the Azores) Chirac openly said that he would veto ANY new resolution proposed by the US and Britian, NO MATTER WHAT THE CICUMSTANCES. This is a fact. Why should the US be bothered to go through this procedure then? France is hypocirtical. France amongst other countires fucked this whole process of disarmament up. Totally. You cannot pass a resolution which basically says "this is your last chance, if u dont comply face consequences" and then, when there is a clear breach, step back and say "lets wait and see". fuck that

It is different thing to say something and to actually do it. And don't blame it all on france, Russia and China would have most probably vetoed it also, and US would hardly get 9/16 votes from the security council. But regardless of that, doesn't anybody see it's odd that the US is breaching UN resolutions as a response to the Iraqi breach of a UN resolution?

And btw, disarmament process isn't a process that is finished in 2 days. It takes at least several months to disarm a country. Besides, I don't see how France screwed up weapons inspections when it asked, together with Germany to triple the amount of the inspectors in Iraq. And guess which country put a veto on that decision. Why, it was the US, surprise, surprise. So much for who screwed up the inspections. Also a reminder, the first inspections which ended in 1998 were canceled by Bill Clinton. That is, if weapons of which the country should be disarmed of exist, which has not been proven.

PS, go arguing on the political forum about matters like this, that's why it exist, right?

Tell this little boy that he is safe from terror...then i will be against ANY war on terrorism or countries with WMD....He lost his dad in 9.11

k heres a (hopefully) closing statement

its obvious why many are supportive of the war...its cos they are americans and of course one would be patriotic and support ur country..i wouldnt blame u for being patriotic....

we all have our views on this...however its not like things will change by us ponintlessly arguing it over here...

now that the war has started, all we can do is hope it will end VERY soon and that it wasnt a just a waste of resources...

i cant remember who assumed but no im not a muslim. im not even arab. i was born and raised in the middle east and have seen both sides to the stories..

and NO i dont think Hussein is a saint..but IMO Bush is as evil as him..

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Originally posted by DJ El Kay Dee ..but IMO Bush is as evil as him..

proove it

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Originally posted by tiesto14 proove it

justify the sudden desperate need for regime change


and i said that it was my opinion....now if im not allowed to have my own opinion, tell me where the hell is the so called freedom

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Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0 It is different thing to say something and to actually do it. And don't blame it all on france, Russia and China would have most probably vetoed it also, and US would hardly get 9/16 votes from the security council. But regardless of that, doesn't anybody see it's odd that the US is breaching UN resolutions as a response to the Iraqi breach of a UN resolution? And btw, disarmament process isn't a process that is finished in 2 days. It takes at least several months to disarm a country. Besides, I don't see how France screwed up weapons inspections when it asked, together with Germany to triple the amount of the inspectors in Iraq. And guess which country put a veto on that decision. Why, it was the US, surprise, surprise. So much for who screwed up the inspections. Also a reminder, the first inspections which ended in 1998 were canceled by Bill Clinton. That is, if weapons of which the country should be disarmed of exist, which has not been proven. PS, go arguing on the political forum about matters like this, that's why it exist, right?

Ding ding ding.

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Originally posted by DJ El Kay Dee justify the sudden desperate need for regime change and i said that it was my opinion....now if im not allowed to have my own opinion, tell me where the hell is the so called freedom

an opinion is one thing..to spit out absurd crap is another...in no way is Bush as evil as Hussein...Bush does not kill his own people, does not test chemical and bilogical weapons on innocent people, does not set up rapes of women, does not put people in plastic shredders feet first to scream to their deaths and the list goes on and on...how can u honestly say that he is as evil as Hussein.....be real...dont say he is jus cus u dont liek him...or maybe ur unaware of what the word evil means.

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Originally posted by tiesto14 an opinion is one thing..to spit out absurd crap is another...in no way is Bush as evil as Hussein...Bush does not kill his own people, does not test chemical and bilogical weapons on innocent people, does not set up rapes of women, does not put people in plastic shredders feet first to scream to their deaths and the list goes on and on...how can u honestly say that he is as evil as Hussein.....be real...dont say he is jus cus u dont liek him...or maybe ur unaware of what the word evil means.

oh im so sorry i dont know english to know the meaning of evil.

lets see...throughout this thread, i have been told to support with facts...i would like supporting evidence to show that he has done the above mentioned in the past 10 years

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Originally posted by DJ El Kay Dee oh im so sorry i dont know english to know the meaning of evil. lets see...throughout this thread, i have been told to support with facts...i would like supporting evidence to show that he has done the above mentioned in the past 10 years

LOL even Renegade knows he has that stuff...go look it up....

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Originally posted by tiesto14 LOL even Renegade knows he has that stuff...go look it up....

no..u look it up and prove it...


dont ask me for proof if u cant provide any urself

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Originally posted by DJ El Kay Dee no..u look it up and prove it... dont ask me for proof if u cant provide any urself

i cant be bothered...because even if i do get the proof u will say its false...not worth it...when u show proof Bush is evil as Saddam then i will show u proof...

but to be honest if u dispute the universally known fact that Hussein has gassed his own people then ur more uneducated then i thought.

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Originally posted by tiesto14 i cant be bothered...because even if i do get the proof u will say its false...not worth it...when u show proof Bush is evil as Saddam then i will show u proof... but to be honest if u dispute the universally known fact that Hussein has gassed his own people then ur more uneducated then i thought.

its a pity that people like u exist...practice what u preach...

on this case, ur asking me for proof, show me that u urself have proof of ur accusitions...just because they tell u on the news that saddam is evil, u believe it??


its a known fact taht geroge jr is just trying to finish what his father started 12 years ago.

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Originally posted by DJ El Kay Dee its a pity that people like u exist...practice what u preach... on this case, ur asking me for proof, show me that u urself have proof of ur accusitions...just because they tell u on the news that saddam is evil, u believe it?? its a known fact taht geroge jr is just trying to finish what his father started 12 years ago.

here u go dickhead..

Saddam Crimes

heres more


go read little boy....and show me how Bush is this evil...lol

oh and tiesto14...heres a link i want u to check out

LINK

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Originally posted by DJ El Kay Dee oh and tiesto14...heres a link i want u to check out LINK

in NOWAY does your link show any basis for u posting Bush is as evil as Hussein...TRY AGAIN.

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