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Originally posted by Purple And I still hope that equal no. of Israelies are killed as you have killed in Lebanon..because you deserve it. You fucking murderer. I hope god punishes you HARD this time!

Seriously.
Are you just asking for a ban?
If you were from Lebanon or something I might understand but...

You cant ban someone for holding views which aren't in-synic with yours.

Seriously "Purple".. You couldnt possibly mean what you said about the soldiers.. I do however sympathise with your "eye for an eye" view on the events.

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Originally posted by Fir3start3r If you were from Lebanon or something I might understand but...

Really?

Guess what I do business with Middle East contris... my dad is into Chemichal manufactoring business and I help him from time to time in exporting his products outside India.. most of our customers are from EU but a large portion of them were from Midlle East, but we have to stop doing buinsness with and let them literally starving,,,,

What you guys safe in Canada and US think...? that untill and unless US nukes the shit out of them its all safe for them?> well in real life its not like that... all this trash talk and bullshit against these people has already damaged their life to a great extent...

Eg:

Iran is a small country, to make a small thing like shoe you need raw material... and all the raw materials required are not available within the country's boundaries... so an Iranian making shoes have to import some of its raw material like Nitro Cellulose COtton which we export... BUT BECAUSE OF ALL THESE POLITICAL TENSION WE DONT WANT TO TAKE RISKS.... No country is willing to open Letter of Credit of Iranian buinsessmen thus cripeling all their livelihoods...

I have witnessed first hand how all this trash talk and bullshit against Iran have affected Iran and its people already...

you mother ******s sit in US and Canada and label them evil and stuufff,,,,

but you have to understand that all this have already shut more than half of the buinsesses in Iran and rendered them literally jobless and starving,,,

you dont see this.. all you see is that until and unless US nukes the hsit out of Iran nothing happens to them... thats what what your mentality is reduced to...

Iran is not as big as US where you get everything within US boundaries,,,, you relly on other countris... but becos of all this political tension noone wants to help them now.. they are closing there businesses and shutting down shops just because US labelled them 'evil'!

So you don't think Mahmoud Ahmadinejad holds any responsibility for that huh?
Interesting...

Maybe he should learn to play with the rest of the world properly instead of bealching out the paranoia he does; he's hurting his own people!
The Iranian people have nobody to blame but themselves for voting for this nutbar.
And I can say nutbar because I'm hardly a minority when it comes to that conclusion.

If they were anyway half-way serious they would pressure Ahmadinejad to play nice if not for their own future's sake.

But then, we're talking about a people that lets Ahmadinejad support Hizbollah terrorists in a 'crusade' proxy war in Lebanon

You want him to kiss your ass dont you,, why would he play 'nice'? I support Iran's right to have nuclear powered electricuty stations... they need it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! They are starving of power!!!!!!! they IRAN fucnking need electricity.. US wants them to be slave of oil... they NEED alternate source of electricity!!!!!!!! WHY DONT YOU GET IT?

THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO HAVE NUCLEAR POWERED STATIONS! FUCKING 10 COUNTRIES HAVE IT, WHY CANT THEY? JUST BCOS THEY ARE MUSLIMS?

Hey Purple!

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Originally posted by Fir3start3r So you don't think Mahmoud Ahmadinejad holds any responsibility for that huh? Interesting... Maybe he should learn to play with the rest of the world properly instead of bealching out the paranoia he does; he's hurting his own people! The Iranian people have nobody to blame but themselves for voting for this nutbar. And I can say nutbar because I'm hardly a minority when it comes to that conclusion. If they were anyway half-way serious they would pressure Ahmadinejad to play nice if not for their own future's sake. But then, we're talking about a people that lets Ahmadinejad support Hizbollah terrorists in a 'crusade' proxy war in Lebanon

+1

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Originally posted by George Smiley Hey Purple!

Christ George--even I laughed at that one.

Iran has reached a saturation point... with no additional power..they cannot prgress further... they need alternate sourse of energy.. or else it will stall their economy..

Its not a shit small sanction scrippeled country like Afghanistan or North Korea

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Originally posted by Shakka Christ George--even I laughed at that one.

I like to bring that image out for special occasions!

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Originally posted by Fir3start3r But then, we're talking about a people that lets Ahmadinejad support Hizbollah terrorists in a 'crusade' proxy war in Lebanon

There's not much difference between Iran supplying Hezbollahs weapons and the US supplying the IDFs weapons mate, i was watching a documentary last night showing the complete and utter carnage inflicted in civilian areas of Beirut and Southern Lebanon that were "carpet bombed" by the IDF, the stench of rotting bodies everywhere, a man with 17 people of his own family kiled in one day. The crimes against humanity inflicted on Lebanese civilians by IDF were more brutal than Hezbollah could ever dream of inflicting on Israeli civilians, and fortunately there are very prominent people making cases for War Crimes against Israel right now (forgot what his name unfortunately).

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Originally posted by tathi There's not much difference between Iran supplying Hezbollahs weapons and the US supplying the IDFs weapons mate, i was watching a documentary last night showing the complete and utter carnage inflicted in civilian areas of Beirut and Southern Lebanon that were "carpet bombed" by the IDF, the stench of rotting bodies everywhere, a man with 17 people of his own family kiled in one day. The crimes against humanity inflicted on Lebanese civilians by IDF were more brutal than Hezbollah could ever dream of inflicting on Israeli civilians, and fortunately there are very prominent people making cases for War Crimes against Israel right now (forgot what his name unfortunately).

And do we see, publically, the leader of Isreal calling for Iran to be wiped off the map? No.
Funding known terrorists? No.

It's the things that come out of his mouth that bother the rest of the world.
Here's a real charmer...

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"If you want to have good relations with the Iranian people in the future, you should acknowledge the right and the might of the Iranian people, and you should bow and surrender to the might of the Iranian people. If you do not accept this, the Iranian people will force you to bow and surrender." - Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, Iranian News Channel (IRINN) on August 15, 2006

You're asking the world to hand a box of matches to an egotistical pyromaniac.
I'm not against Iran or it's people, it's their leader that's got a screw loose. Until Ahmadinejad is a little more reasonable to deal with (which doesn't look like any time soon) the Iranians suffer.

Why nuclear?
Why not hydro-electric? It only makes up 7% of their total energy capacity. Or wind? Of which they appear to have nothing.
I'll tell you why nuclear. Because with nuclear technology behind them their political agenda to have the world bow before them becomes a reality; their people are the excuse and will still suffer for it.

Yeah mang, i've already said many times that i think Ahmadinejad is a sociopathic lunatic

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Originally posted by Purple Iran has reached a saturation point... with no additional power..they cannot prgress further... they need alternate sourse of energy.. or else it will stall their economy.

Bullshit.

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Originally posted by tathi Yeah mang, i've already said many times that i think Ahmadinejad is a sociopathic lunatic

Sorry tathi, I know I quoted you but it was really directed a Burple...

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Originally posted by Shakka Bullshit.

Even if your right. What right do aliens have to dictate the direction of a country??

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Originally posted by sasslife Even if your right. What right do aliens have to dictate the direction of a country??

I agree with you 100%. I'm just pointing out that Purple is spouting out complete unadulterated bullshit. They are NOT starving for nuclear energy. Their economic progression is not being held up because of nuclear deprivation. They are sitting on one of the top 5 oil reserves in the known world--there is simply no logic to what Purple said.

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Originally posted by Shakka I agree with you 100%. I'm just pointing out that Purple is spouting out complete unadulterated bullshit. They are NOT starving for nuclear energy. Their economic progression is not being held up because of nuclear deprivation. They are sitting on one of the top 5 oil reserves in the known world--there is simply no logic to what Purple said.

But that's not of that much use with sanctions (over the years) and stuff imposed on them, not to mention instability that we had quite a bit involvement in (like installing the Shah and overthrowing Mossadeq, who was democratically elected). You have to take that into account too.

Iran is highly dependent on oil for their energy needs. They want to get rid of their dependence on oil at present.

Iran has one of world's largest oil resources but still they are dependant on outside world for their oil suplly need. Because they dont have large scale oil distillation technology. They are dependent on countries who import oil from them and than export it back to Iran in refined form.

They want an alternate long term reliable source of energy, shift from oil to nuclear sources.

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Originally posted by Purple They want an alternate long term reliable source of energy, shift from oil to nuclear sources.

Well, they'd probably have a lot more luck getting access to that nuclear energy if they didn't have a nut--who has publicly stated his desire to acquire a nuclear weapon and desire to eradicate Israel-- running the show. Iran is a signatory on the NNPT, ya know.

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Originally posted by Purple Iran has one of world's largest oil resources but still they are dependant on outside world for their oil suplly need. Because they dont have large scale oil distillation technology. They are dependent on countries who import oil from them and than export it back to Iran in refined form.

Ya i have a friend whos a Chemical Engineer & he was telling me on how in his line of work people feel bad for Iran. Because they are sitting on a ton of oil, but they dont have the refinerys to covert it to fuel.

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Originally posted by Shakka --who has publicly stated his desire to acquire a nuclear weapon and desire to eradicate Israel--

Who threatened whom first? Who started this? US.. Bush labelled three countries 'Axis of Evils' out of nowhere and said world should get rid of them... so by your logic; shoudn't we be stripping US of its nukes first?

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Originally posted by jonSun Ya i have a friend whos a Chemical Engineer & he was telling me on how in his line of work people feel bad for Iran. Because they are sitting on a ton of oil, but they dont have the refinerys to covert it to fuel.

Yet they'd rather violate global sentiment and spend billions developing a nuclear infrastructure whereby they'd need to import uranium instead of simply building non-controversial infrastructure to capitalize on their massive reserves of oil, which they can use at no cost to themselves. And this is because they desperately need to provide more power to their people.

Something just doesn't smell right.

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Who threatened whom first? Who started this? US.. Bush labelled three countries 'Axis of Evils' out of nowhere all of a sudden and said world should get rid of them... so by your logic; shoudn't we be stripping US of its nukes first?

Purple--if you think this is new sentiment that originated with the Bush administration, you are sorely mistaken. I don't think logic suits you. Go read the friggin NNPT. I believe Iran has the right to develop nuclear energy sources for civilian use, but not when they openly claim they interested in it from the perspective of acquiring a nuclear weapon. That is a blatant violation of the treaty they signed.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclea...feration_Treaty

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Five states are permitted by the NPT to own nuclear weapons: France (signed 1992), the People's Republic of China (1992), the Soviet Union (1968; obligations and rights now assumed by Russia), the United Kingdom (1968), and the United States (1968). These were the only states possessing such weapons at the time the treaty was opened to signature, and are also the five permanent members of the United Nations Security Council. These 5 Nuclear Weapons States (NWS) agree not to transfer "nuclear weapons or other nuclear explosive devices" technology to other states, and non-NWS parties agree not to seek or develop nuclear weapons. The 5 NWS parties have made undertakings not to use their nuclear weapons against a non-NWS party except in response to a nuclear attack, or a conventional attack in alliance with a Nuclear Weapons State. However, these undertakings have not been incorporated formally into the treaty, and the exact details have varied over time. The United States, for instance, has indicated that it may use nuclear weapons in response to a non-conventional attack by "rogue states". The previous United Kingdom Secretary of State for Defence, Geoff Hoon, has also explicitly invoked the possibility of the use of the country's nuclear weapons in response to a non-conventional attack by "rogue states". In January 2006, Jacques Chirac of France indicated that an incident of state-sponsored terrorism on France could trigger a small-scale nuclear retaliation aimed at destroying the "rogue state's" power centers.

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Third pillar: the right to peacefully use nuclear technology Since very few of the nuclear weapons states and states using nuclear reactions for energy generation are willing to completely abandon possession of nuclear fuel, the third pillar of the NPT provides other states with the possibility to do the same, but under conditions intended to make it difficult to develop nuclear weapons. For some states, this third pillar of the NPT, which allows uranium enrichment for fuel reasons, seems to be a major loophole. However, the treaty gives every state the inalienable right to use nuclear energy for peaceful purposes, and as the commercially popular light water reactor nuclear power station designs use enriched uranium fuel, it follows that states must be allowed to enrich uranium or purchase it on an international market. Peaceful uranium enrichment can arguably be considered a small step away from developing nuclear warheads, and this can be done by withdrawing from the NPT. No state is known to have successfully constructed a nuclear weapon in secret while subjected to NPT inspection. Countries that have signed the treaty as Non-Nuclear Weapons States and maintained that status have an unbroken record of not building nuclear weapons. In some regions, the fact that all neighbors are verifiably free of nuclear weapons reduces any pressure individual states might feel to build those weapons themselves, even if neighbors are known to have peaceful nuclear energy programs that might otherwise be suspicious. In this, the treaty works as designed.

So it's more Iran's rhetoric that is the reason they are being deprived of this great energy source that will finally give them energy independence.

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Originally posted by Purple Bush labelled three countries 'Axis of Evils'

Yes he did.

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out of nowhere

Hardly.

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and said world should get rid of them.

You made that up.

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so by your logic; shoudn't we be stripping US of its nukes first?

I dunno--is the U.S. actively trying to increase its nuclear arsenal? For non-peaceful purposes?

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