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Posted by LeopoldStotch on Jan-24-2007 01:57:

Rex Grossman. what do i have to say about him, other than the fact he has had too many chances to improve himself. i know lovie smith is having a tough time trying to hang on to grossman, and push him back on the field, after sucking so much. smith knows that if he benches grossman for griese, it's good for the "short term", but not good for the "long term", because he is giving up on his future quarterback for the next couple of years. not the type of standing lovie wants to show at the moment. face it. chicago is stuck with grossman for the next couple of years.

i am interested to see how bob sanders tries to pick apart grossman and the bears. he did an excellent job with brady and mcnair.


Posted by LeopoldStotch on Jan-24-2007 02:00:

quote:
Originally posted by Member of X
Put Joe Montana on a lot of teams and they win. Kind of silly. Put any great QB on a mediocre team and he can make them great.

Vince Young has less experience than Rex Grossman. I'm 100% confident if he was the Bears QB, Super Bowl would be over. Talent or no talent has a way of shining through. It's not inexperience that throws 6 for 24 for 34 yards, 3 INT's. That's suckiness. Again, Bears can win if he doesn't commit mistakes which he has been able to do the last few weeks.



i agree totally with this statement. like i said earlier this year, vince young is going to be a successful in this league. he shows signs of that knack that brady and montana had. they all have that sense of winning. they can have the crappiest game, yet at the end, their team will win. something rex grossman doesn't have.


Posted by Dj Smitty20 on Jan-24-2007 03:12:

quote:
Originally posted by LeopoldStotch
face it. chicago is stuck with grossman for the next couple of years.



tha's not necessarily true, since Grossman's contract runs out after the 2007 season. If he's shite next season, expect the Bears to ditch him. Interestingly, Griese's contract runs through 2010.

And about the 80s Bears having Montana; it's just random fanboy dreaming. But imagine that defense (plus the greatest all around player of all time, Walter Payton) with somebody like Montana or Elway. The Bears were only a great quarterback away from being THE dynasty of the 80s. But this is useless banter since it was 20+ years ago.


Posted by WM2 on Jan-24-2007 05:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Rockabye
btw... will be a tough next year for the Pats... instead of the lame NFC North they'll face the NFC East and will face the Colts, Chargers, Ravens and Bengals from AFC.



The NFC East is the Cowboys, Giants, Eagles, and Redskins. Did you mean AFC East? If so the Pats are already in the AFC East and have been for years. Please tell me if I missed some huge announcement that all the teams are flopping around to make the NFL more interesting again since the NFC blows.


Posted by Rockabye on Jan-24-2007 11:56:

quote:
Originally posted by WM2


The NFC East is the Cowboys, Giants, Eagles, and Redskins. Did you mean AFC East? If so the Pats are already in the AFC East and have been for years. Please tell me if I missed some huge announcement that all the teams are flopping around to make the NFL more interesting again since the NFC blows.



No I mean the NFC East... the division where 3 teams reached the play-offs this year and where next years super bowl winner the cowboys are.


And I can't hear that anymore... the NFC blows the NFC sucks... do you remember the time between 1985 and 1997 where the AFC won not a single Super Bowl and the 49ers and Cowboys fucked your shitty teams?


Posted by Kapedano on Jan-24-2007 15:47:

quote:
Originally posted by Rockabye
No I mean the NFC East... the division where 3 teams reached the play-offs this year and where next years super bowl winner the redskins are.


Posted by denys envy on Jan-24-2007 15:59:

oddsmakers are putting this game out to be highscoring.

but i agree with MoX, both teams have outstanding kickers, and both defenses have been showing up in the playoffs. i know someone's gonna makes the argument that Colts sucked against the Pats. But 7 of those points were manning's fault so in reality NE put up 27. I think that's pretty darn good to hold Brady and that team to that many points, something even Chargers defense AT HOME almost matched (off by 3 pts.). If you're gonna argue that Chargers don't have a stellar defense there's something wrong with that.

so to get to my point, lol, i would not be surprised if the superbowl had the resemblance of the Ravens-Colts playoff game. Bears defense keeping the Colts offense in check but Grossman and Co. committing enough mistakes to give them good field advantage and make some kicks early on. Probably jump out to like a 13 - 0 lead.

Second half Bears will start running again, maybe get a TD from Jones and a couple of field goals from Gould.

I could easily see the game 13 - 13 and Manning put up a final drive for another Vinatieri classic. Colts win 16-13.


Posted by fmodena369 on Jan-24-2007 22:22:

16-13 sounds like a good guess. I hope it isnt that low scoring tho...that Saints Bears matchup was so damn borin this super bowl better be good...jus wanna see peyton win a damn ring and then see how much more pressure ELI will have on him


Posted by Thierry on Jan-25-2007 00:52:

quote:
Originally posted by Rockabye
And I can't hear that anymore... the NFC blows the NFC sucks... do you remember the time between 1985 and 1997 where the AFC won not a single Super Bowl and the 49ers and Cowboys fucked your shitty teams?


So what? Since 1997 the AFC have won 7 of the last 9 Super Bowls and will win this one too to make it 8 of 10.


Posted by WM2 on Jan-25-2007 04:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Rockabye
No I mean the NFC East... the division where 3 teams reached the play-offs this year and where next years super bowl winner the cowboys are.


And I can't hear that anymore... the NFC blows the NFC sucks... do you remember the time between 1985 and 1997 where the AFC won not a single Super Bowl and the 49ers and Cowboys fucked your shitty teams?

Oh, I get it. You think the Cowboys are going to be a little less pathetic next year and face the Patriots in the Superbowl. Talk about a case of wishful thinking.


Posted by Rockabye on Jan-25-2007 08:31:

quote:
Originally posted by CraveTheRave
So what? Since 1997 the AFC have won 7 of the last 9 Super Bowls and will win this one too to make it 8 of 10.



Yeah and all that will turn around in a few years again when teams like the Patriots suck like in the early 90's and teams like the Cowboys and 49ers rule the NFL again.

Or did anyone think that the Colts or Pats will stay on top forever???


Posted by Rockabye on Jan-25-2007 08:33:

quote:
Originally posted by WM2
Oh, I get it. You think the Cowboys are going to be a little less pathetic next year and face the Patriots in the Superbowl. Talk about a case of wishful thinking.



If they hire a good Head Coach YES.


The Cowboys have the best receiver in the game, a young Quarterback with a lot of potential, a great running back duo and some awesome players in defense.


Posted by Dj Smitty20 on Jan-25-2007 09:15:

quote:
Originally posted by Rockabye
If they hire a good Head Coach YES.


The Cowboys have the best receiver in the game,


no...just, no.


Posted by Rockabye on Jan-25-2007 10:08:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj Smitty20
no...just, no.



Terrell Owens is the fucking best receiver in the game. He plays the whole season with an injured finger and still catches the most TD passes in the league. Hell, he didn't even played in all games.

And instead of having a surgery he plays the whole season with it risking a permanent injury.


And if Parcells would have involved him into more plays he would have much better stats.


So please tell me who is the best receiver in your eyes???


Posted by Dj Smitty20 on Jan-25-2007 10:56:

I'd rather have Marvin Harrison since he's not a distraction. TO is a fucking asshole. I don't care how many passes he catches, I wouldn't want him on my team.

I think most people on here would probably prefer TO NOT to be on their team. He is very skilled of course. But somewhere along the way, he didn't learn when to shut up.


Posted by Rockabye on Jan-25-2007 11:00:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj Smitty20
I'd rather have Marvin Harrison since he's not a distraction. TO is a fucking asshole. I don't care how many passes he catches, I wouldn't want him on my team.

I think most people on here would probably prefer TO NOT to be on their team. He is very skilled of course. But somewhere along the way, he didn't learn when to shut up.



If you are owner of a franchise you'd like TO in your team because he sells a lot of jersey which Marvin doesn't do.


Posted by Dj Smitty20 on Jan-25-2007 11:09:

quote:
Originally posted by Rockabye
If you are owner of a franchise you'd like TO in your team because he sells a lot of jersey which Marvin doesn't do.


that's true, but I'd rather concern myself with winning a title than selling jerseys. Real Madrid sure made a hell of a lot of money by signing Beckham and getting the rights to his jersey, but what did he win them? Fuck all. TO won't ever win anything either.


Posted by Thierry on Jan-25-2007 11:15:

Didn't Owens catch the most TDs and have the most drops? How much more can a coach get a player involved? I love TO but even I don't think he's the best receiver in the game. Harrison easily is that in all aspects. Only reason why he didn't have the TD numbers this year is because he draws the double team which lets other ppl on his team like Reggie Wayne and Dallas Clark pile up the TDs. But as far as straight-up ability like route running and catching, Harrison is the best by far and he would be my first WR taken in any draft.


Posted by Rockabye on Jan-25-2007 11:16:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj Smitty20
that's true, but I'd rather concern myself with winning a title than selling jerseys. Real Madrid sure made a hell of a lot of money by signing Beckham and getting the rights to his jersey, but what did he win them? Fuck all. TO won't ever win anything either.



Did Marvin won anything yet???

Did Chad Johnson won anything yet???

Steve Smith???


Did you remember TO's perfomance in the Super Bowl against New England??? It was MVP-like! But McNabb fucked it up with his 3 interceptions


Posted by denys envy on Jan-25-2007 14:08:

quote:
Originally posted by Rockabye
If you are owner of a franchise you'd like TO in your team because he sells a lot of jersey which Marvin doesn't do.


yeah fans buy those jerseys to burn them at tailgates... it's all profit i guess.


Posted by Member of X on Jan-26-2007 00:01:

Torry Holt has a super bowl and the most receiving yards of anybody in the last 8 years. What has TO won? What? Torry Holt played an entire year with a broken thumb once and didn't lead the league in drops. Sounds like an excuse a pussy like TO would make.

Plus, he's isn't a worthless piece of shit like TO who has has alienated THREE coaches already: Andy Reid, Mariucci, and Parcells. So it's the coaches fault each time? Whatever, that makes as much sense as marrying a $2 hooker.


Posted by Dj Smitty20 on Jan-26-2007 00:23:

skilled or not, nobody in their right mind would want TO on the team. It had to have played some part in Parcell's departure from Dallas, although he handled the manchild TO as best as he could in my opinion.

Honestly, if TO wanted to come to the Bears, I would NOT want him.


Posted by Rockabye on Jan-26-2007 09:36:

34-32 in 4 years... Parcells didn't bring ANYTHING to Dallas. JJ should have dropped Bill last year, than we would have Sean Payton as Head Coach now.


Posted by Dj Smitty20 on Jan-26-2007 23:31:

quote:
Originally posted by Rockabye
Parcells didn't bring ANYTHING to Dallas.


no offence or anything but I hope it stays that way. Dallas are up there with Man United and the Toronto Maple Leafs for top scum of their respective leagues.


Posted by Rockabye on Jan-27-2007 11:04:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj Smitty20
no offence or anything but I hope it stays that way. Dallas are up there with Man United and the Toronto Maple Leafs for top scum of their respective leagues.



With Toronto we have the same feelings. Go Habs!!!


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