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Originally posted by sheila-neil I think the fact that you don't hear Yankee fans upset about the fact that they are building a new Stadium testifies to the fact that all parks are not equal.

i'm not disagreeing with you there at all.

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Originally posted by sheila-neil Boston fans were horrified at the idea of knocking down Fenway .

not all of them are. i know the save fenway park group was pretty active when the yawkey group announced plans in 1999 for a new park.

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Originally posted by sheila-neil New parks have to offer cushy seats, and silly concessions (beer & hotdog what more do you need?)because they are about as interesting as a parking garage to be in.

cushy seats means you'll actually be comfortable watching a game. it's my main gripe with fenway. when i went there in 2003, with the exception of watching the game (it really got to me late in the game), i had a blast there, especially since i got to walk along the field, touch the green monster, and shake Manny's hand

as for concessions, having more than just a beer and hot dog available definitely adds to the ballpark experience, especially when they are local specialties.

gonig back to japan, they had a good variety of both stereotypical ballpark food and japanese food available.

for some of the parks, yes it's as interesting as being in a parking garage (Chase Field, Miller Park to name a few). but for others,

but for the parks that are designed right, it makes for an unbelievable experience

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Originally posted by sheila-neil No matter how great the fan base on the road is...it's not the exact same vibe. Ridiculous to even suggest it. The basic vibe might be there, but you can't duplicate the feeling you get being in the park that Boston fans have been chanting, cheering and cursing in since 1912!

in the case for the red sox, it's not ridiculous at all. it comes pretty damn close.

was watching the game live and went absolutely bonkers =o) Easily the greatest player of his generation ... the Mickey Mantle of this era

Its times like this where we Yankee fans have to thank big George for giving us such a wonderful player and an amazing team

Plus hearing him talk in the postgame was soo emotional ... there is no way he will leave in the offseason ... he will sign an extension and stay a yankee forever and win some titles !!!

I cant wait to watch my yankees when they come to detroit later this month ... me and my buddies got our tickets and gonna be there early trying to get autographs from the yankee players

heres a link to download the homerun if you missed it today

http://www.savefile.com/projects/808521321

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Originally posted by frostdude1 Its times like this where we Yankee fans have to thank big George for giving us such a wonderful player and an amazing team.

We can thank him now, but we must scorn him in 5 years when we're stuck with huge contracts for old players who are clogging the route of minor leaguers to the big.

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Originally posted by frostdude1 Plus hearing him talk in the postgame was soo emotional ... there is no way he will leave in the offseason ... he will sign an extension and stay a yankee forever and win some titles !!!

he also said "I don't want to sign with the Yankees. They win too much!" when he was a free agent in 2000.

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Originally posted by jerZ07002 Things are happening just as i thought; The yankees are beating up on bad teams, and catching up. Hopefully this continues. The one thing i didn't expect was for the tigers to fall apart. Well, either way, the yankees are in good shape. Like i said a few posts above, i hate the lastest move. It was stupid, and i don't see how the yankees are a better team by weaking the already shitty bullpen. Betemit is a good utility man, and at best an average everyday player. His upside is that he is young and he had a good season 3 or 4 years ago. In my mind, this shows that Cashman/torre don't trust Philips. What more does the guy have to do to show he deserves the spot at 1b? The man is batting .300 since being called up, and had quite a few huge hits last month. I hate cashman!!!

Yeah it seemed like a crazy decision but at the same time I'm glad he never let go of Melky for Gagne..I don't know about Torre not trusting Phillips though,,I heard Torre say that Phillips is his number one choice at 1B and Betemit was purely a stand in infielder ...What confuses me is that Melky's position as CF is permanent so what happens at LF with Matsui and Damon....

Lets hope Joe dont pull the same shit he did last year when Jason comes back, let Melky, Duncan, and PHillips play even if they have a couple of bad games-they cant be llokin over there shoulders waitin for Joe to pull the plug and bring back the 'trusty' vetrans, i dont need to see old man Giambi and always injured Damon slowing down the team and hurting the defense, leave them on the bench where the old men belong

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Originally posted by steven-neil Yeah it seemed like a crazy decision but at the same time I'm glad he never let go of Melky for Gagne..I don't know about Torre not trusting Phillips though,,I heard Torre say that Phillips is his number one choice at 1B and Betemit was purely a stand in infielder ...What confuses me is that Melky's position as CF is permanent so what happens at LF with Matsui and Damon....

Exactly...That cost us last year dearly..Bringing back Matsui and Sheffield back into a perfectly good line up...

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Originally posted by frostdude1 Easily the greatest player of his generation ... the Mickey Mantle of this era

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Originally posted by Shamez214

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Originally posted by ludawg23 *

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Originally posted by Shamez214

unfortunately true.

Until anything is proven otherwise people should get off Barry Bonds case...The dude is a legend,,plain and simple...

I did some of my best work high on cocaine and E's...Not one person complained...

Hello peeps i am from California,wanted to drop by and say that out here in CALI the YANKS also have some BIGTIME FANS like my sister.SHE LOVES THE YANKS.She wants to move out to NY whene she turns 18 just so she can be closer to her beloved YANKS.

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Originally posted by steven-neil Until anything is proven otherwise people should get off Barry Bonds case...The dude is a legend,,plain and simple... I did some of my best work high on cocaine and E's...Not one person complained...

the reason why Bonds is getting this treatment now is because of his reputation, plain and simple. the dude has been a jerk off the field so he's deservedly getting his due rewards right now


karma is indeed a bitch

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Originally posted by verndogs the reason why Bonds is getting this treatment now is because of his reputation, plain and simple. the dude has been a jerk off the field so he's deservedly getting his due rewards right now karma is indeed a bitch

Yes and no. I think the perception of Bonds as a person certainly hasn't helped him win fans outside of the Bay Area over but, then again, neither have the heaps of accusations swirling around him and performance enhancers.

In my opinion, when they finally close the book on Bonds it will read that he was one of the greatest players of all time and that he used performance enhancing drugs. Does he deserve to be in the Hall of Fame? I say, yes, absolutely. If you look at his numbers before the accused "steroid bump" he's still one of the greatest of all time. As a younger player he was dominant in almost every statistic - Runs, SBs, RBI's, OBP, HRs, (2 MVPs) etc etc. The sad part about the Home Run record is that it will forever cloud the greatness that was the young Barry Bonds - he won't be remembered as the guy who averaged 100 RBIs, 30 HRs and 30 stolen bases.

Personally, I hate Barry Bonds and I hope A-Rod surpasses him. It's worth considering how good Griffey would've been if he used steroids - I say frighteningly good.

I also don't think the Home Run record is the most impressive record in baseball. Dimaggio's 56 game hitting streak and Williams' over .400 BA for an entire season are both much more impressive.

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Originally posted by djstopngo ............. I also don't think the Home Run record is the most impressive record in baseball. Dimaggio's 56 game hitting streak and Williams' over .400 BA for an entire season are both much more impressive. .............

I agree that barry bonds is one of the greatest of all time, but I also think that he deserves all the negative attention he gets. The negative attention isn't a result of him using steroids, it's about how he handles the whole thing. Even during the press conference after he hit aaron tying homerun he still managed to sound like an arrogant dick. An for anyone who feels bad for the guy, DON'T. I refuse to feel bad for a guy whos salary is more than the budget of most towns.

Agreed that Dimaggio's record is the toughest. To be able to hit so consistently over such a long period is amazing. In fact, only ten times since dimaggio's streak ended has a player had a hit streak of 31 games or more.

A ton of guys can smack homeruns. I'm not impressed by players like Adam Dunn, i think there is much more talent (and luck) involved in the hit streak.

Mets > Yankees


Bonds sucks.

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Originally posted by jerZ07002 I agree that barry bonds is one of the greatest of all time, but I also think that he deserves all the negative attention he gets. The negative attention isn't a result of him using steroids, it's about how he handles the whole thing. Even during the press conference after he hit aaron tying homerun he still managed to sound like an arrogant dick. An for anyone who feels bad for the guy, DON'T. I refuse to feel bad for a guy whos salary is more than the budget of most towns. Agreed that Dimaggio's record is the toughest. To be able to hit so consistently over such a long period is amazing. In fact, only ten times since dimaggio's streak ended has a player had a hit streak of 31 games or more. A ton of guys can smack homeruns. I'm not impressed by players like Adam Dunn, i think there is much more talent (and luck) involved in the hit streak.

I'd say the 59 scoreless inning streak is even harder than the hitting streak.

how about breaking tom seaver's 10 consecutive strikeouts in a row? where does that rank?

i was actually in Arizona when I saw Peavy strike out 9 diamondbacks in a row. that was just sick to see in person

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Originally posted by verndogs how about breaking tom seaver's 10 consecutive strikeouts in a row? where does that rank? i was actually in Arizona when I saw Peavy strike out 9 diamondbacks in a row. that was just sick to see in person

While that's amazing, it is something that can happen in one day, so to me it's not as impressive.

The 59 scoreless innings streak is just as impressive as a hit streak. It's consistency over a long period. That's over a month without letting up a run, damn impressive.

If the payoffs began today my lineup would be
cf melky
ss jeter
lf godzilla
3ba-rod
c hip hip jorge
2b cano
rf booby
ib any phillps
dh duncan

Juice and Jesus would be on the bench

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Originally posted by jerZ07002 While that's amazing, it is something that can happen in one day, so to me it's not as impressive. The 59 scoreless innings streak is just as impressive as a hit streak. It's consistency over a long period. That's over a month without letting up a run, damn impressive.

Now... don't get me wrong. I'm not taking anything away from Joe Dimaggio and what he did. He batted .408 during the streak, so that's pretty damn good. But...

Think about 59 scoreless innings in a row. In essence, Orel Hershisher, during that streak, never gave up a double with a runner on first. He never gave up a single with a runner on second. He never gave up a hit with a runner on third. And he never gave up a deep fly ball or a slow roller in the infield with a runner on third with less than two outs.

Of course, that may not be the case. Maybe there were slow runners out there. But, basically, he didn't do many of those things often.

To get a hit, there are many things that could happen. Poor defenders not reaching a ball in time or maybe just a well-placed pop up behind first. You can, theoretically, go 1 - 5 every game for 57 games and you'd have the new record. To get 59 scoreless innings in a row, you have to be totally on top of your game during that span. No bad pitches, cause there were obviously no homeruns hit, and not many hits given up when runners are on base.

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Originally posted by Shamez214 To get a hit, there are many things that could happen. Poor defenders not reaching a ball in time or maybe just a well-placed pop up behind first. You can, theoretically, go 1 - 5 every game for 57 games and you'd have the new record. To get 59 scoreless innings in a row, you have to be totally on top of your game during that span. No bad pitches, cause there were obviously no homeruns hit, and not many hits given up when runners are on base.

59 innings is pretty crazy... figuring he averaged 7IP during that stretch... he would have gone 8+ games in a row without letting up a run. Thats insane. On the flip side, hitting in 56 consecutive games just looks so unattainable since no one has even gotten to the 40 hits mark since the record was set.


I think Orel's record will be harder to break because the league is just overflowing with hitters.

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Originally posted by Shamez214 Now... don't get me wrong. I'm not taking anything away from Joe Dimaggio and what he did. He batted .408 during the streak, so that's pretty damn good. But... Think about 59 scoreless innings in a row. In essence, Orel Hershisher, during that streak, never gave up a double with a runner on first. He never gave up a single with a runner on second. He never gave up a hit with a runner on third. And he never gave up a deep fly ball or a slow roller in the infield with a runner on third with less than two outs. Of course, that may not be the case. Maybe there were slow runners out there. But, basically, he didn't do many of those things often. To get a hit, there are many things that could happen. Poor defenders not reaching a ball in time or maybe just a well-placed pop up behind first. You can, theoretically, go 1 - 5 every game for 57 games and you'd have the new record. To get 59 scoreless innings in a row, you have to be totally on top of your game during that span. No bad pitches, cause there were obviously no homeruns hit, and not many hits given up when runners are on base.

you make a strong argument, and i wouldn't disagree with anything you said. However, i personally believe that getting a hit everyday for two months (day in and day out) is just as impressive.

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