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Posted by smuncky on Nov-05-2008 22:23:

quote:
Originally posted by FunkyCrew
******S! I just signed up for the Killer plan a month ago and had to pay the stupid SAF

though the $15/month plan is a JOKE! I have a $17.50/month promo plan and I have 200 minutes, that one has 50!


kris, you got a better deal. think about it, you have unlimited incoming. if u wanted that with the new plans, you'd have to pay $10 for it. the 17.50 epp plan is quite good.


Posted by FunkyCrew on Nov-05-2008 22:26:

quote:
Originally posted by smuncky
kris, you got a better deal. think about it, you have unlimited incoming. if u wanted that with the new plans, you'd have to pay $10 for it. the 17.50 epp plan is quite good.


you're right hehe I just got pissed at the system access fee..


Posted by Adamo on Nov-12-2008 23:11:

telus clients: is anyone else having problems recieving or making calls with the telus network? i got people telling me to pick up my damn phone and when i check it i have 0 missed calls. also, making outbound calls are kind of lagging and sometimes dont go through. Anyone else having this problem? or am i an isolated case. Phone is a Samsung U510. What should i do...any help is appreciated.


Posted by Dr. Z on Nov-13-2008 01:37:

quote:
Originally posted by Adamo
telus clients: is anyone else having problems recieving or making calls with the telus network? i got people telling me to pick up my damn phone and when i check it i have 0 missed calls. also, making outbound calls are kind of lagging and sometimes dont go through. Anyone else having this problem? or am i an isolated case. Phone is a Samsung U510. What should i do...any help is appreciated.


Do some manual testing. Call your landline, and call from your landline.


Posted by exstasie on Nov-13-2008 01:54:

quote:
Originally posted by FunkyCrew
******S! I just signed up for the Killer plan a month ago and had to pay the stupid SAF

though the $15/month plan is a JOKE! I have a $17.50/month promo plan and I have 200 minutes, that one has 50!


Don't worry. I have the same plan as you.

The one we have is better even with the SAF & 911!


Posted by dEsidEL on Nov-20-2008 16:13:



I guess this shouldn't come as a surprise.. what good is 3G and 4G/LTE in Canada if most consumers here aren't willing to pay for the services because they feel it's either unfordable or non-essential?

quote:

Smartphones a hit; pricey features aren't

25% own one, but most cite cost as main reason they won't subscribe to monthly data plan: Survey

November 20, 2008
Chris Sorensen
Business Reporter

Canadians are increasingly gravitating to full-featured wireless devices such as the BlackBerry and iPhone, but are reluctant to sign up for the pricey monthly data plans that normally accompany them.

A recent survey of 15,000 Canadian wireless users by J.D. Power and Associates found 25 per cent of respondents currently own a smartphone, devices that combine voice calling with mobile Web browsing and multimedia functions, and that 65 per cent of those customers indicated they were keen on making a smartphone their next device.

The study comes during a year in which all-in-one devices were in the spotlight with the Canadian release of Apple Inc.'s popular iPhone and Research In Motion Ltd.'s BlackBerry Bold, both of which run on high-speed wireless networks.

But the survey also found the majority of respondents didn't foresee themselves subscribing to monthly data plans that permit activities such as Web browsing or downloads, with roughly one-third of respondents citing cost as the main reason.

"Consumers are really fascinated by the functionality and the features of a smartphone, but they're probably not ready to go to the next level given the higher data package cost," said Lubo Li, senior director of J.D. Power in Toronto.

"I mean if you look at the options on the market, many of them are quite expensive."

While 57 per cent of consumers also cited a lack of need for mobile Internet access, Li noted there are only a handful of devices currently on the market � particularly the iPhone � that offer a compelling mobile Web browsing experience.

In general, Li said Canadian wireless subscribers now cite cost as the main factor when deciding between devices and wireless providers, compared with call quality just a few years ago.

High wireless prices, particularly for data, were among the reasons the federal government cited when it decided to set aside wireless airwaves for new entrants in a recent auction.

The move was designed to boost competition in an industry dominated by Rogers Communications Inc., Bell Canada Inc. and Telus Corp.

The rising interest among Canadians in smartphones mirrors global findings that point to the category as a huge growth area for the mobile-phone industry.

It's also among the reasons some analysts continue to be bullish on the prospects for Waterloo-based RIM, which has seen its share price plummet more than 60 per cent since July as investors expressed concern about the impact on handset sales of a faltering global economy. "Valuation has rarely been this attractive, the product portfolio has never been as compelling or diverse and finally, and most importantly, carrier support has never been as strong," Gus Papageorgiou, an analyst at Scotia Capital, stated in a recent note to clients.

He also cited the upcoming release of the BlackBerry Storm touch-screen device in the United States, Canada and elsewhere as a potential catalyst for sales.

"We believe the Storm has the ability to propel the company directly into the heart of the consumer market, and that an increased presence there will more than offset a slowdown in its traditional enterprise market."


source:
http://www.thestar.com/business/article/540077


Posted by Nerologic on Nov-20-2008 19:36:

LOL

Its because you guys are penny pinchers!


Posted by VERTiG0 on Nov-20-2008 21:25:

It's because anybody with a head on their shoulders isn't going to pay nearly the same amount as they pay for their home computer internet service to use internet on a fucking 2.4" screen. And it's heavily capped, at that.


Posted by Orko on Nov-20-2008 21:34:

quote:
Originally posted by dEsidEL


I guess this shouldn't come as a surprise.. what good is 3G and 4G/LTE in Canada if most consumers here aren't willing to pay for the services because they feel it's either unfordable or non-essential?

quote:
Originally posted by VERTiG0
It's because anybody with a head on their shoulders isn't going to pay nearly the same amount as they pay for their home computer internet service to use internet on a fucking 2.4" screen. And it's heavily capped, at that.


Yup! I just got a new smart phone (HTC 6800), and was unwilling to get a data plan with it, because the phone had Wifi. If i REALLY want internet, I will find the nearest condo, grab an unsecured connection, get my info, and be on my way. Bell wanted $100/GB on their data plan, just insane!

Now all i have to do is figure out how to disable the data network, because it always wants to use it, just so I do not get charged anything extra.

Any bell customers here? Do you know if they can just disable data from their side?


Posted by rabbitjoker on Nov-20-2008 21:38:

quote:
Originally posted by Orko
Any bell customers here? Do you know if they can just disable data from their side?


Negatory.


Posted by VERTiG0 on Nov-20-2008 21:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Orko
Now all i have to do is figure out how to disable the data network, because it always wants to use it, just so I do not get charged anything extra.

Any bell customers here? Do you know if they can just disable data from their side?


http://www.modaco.com/content/pocke...w-free-utility/

Also why can't Bell disable data for your account on their end? Rogers did it for me.


Posted by Orko on Nov-20-2008 21:40:

OK. Custom ROM hack it is.


Posted by E2EK1EL on Nov-21-2008 04:12:



Most likely got faulty firmware units ... just hope the retail ver is not like this.


Posted by E2EK1EL on Nov-21-2008 04:30:

quote:
Originally posted by VERTiG0
http://www.modaco.com/content/pocke...w-free-utility/

Also why can't Bell disable data for your account on their end? Rogers did it for me.


Make sure you get the TOTAL Data block, there is 3 levels of blocking.


Posted by Dr. Z on Nov-21-2008 05:57:

quote:
Originally posted by E2EK1EL


Most likely got faulty firmware units ... just hope the retail ver is not like this.


yea old firmware


Posted by Orko on Nov-21-2008 15:18:

quote:
Originally posted by VERTiG0
http://www.modaco.com/content/pocke...w-free-utility/

Also why can't Bell disable data for your account on their end? Rogers did it for me.

Thanks, that worked sort of well. The setting toggles it self back on after a reset, so I have to make sure, this is the first app i run on a reboot.
quote:
Originally posted by E2EK1EL
Make sure you get the TOTAL Data block, there is 3 levels of blocking.


Three levels, do you have any more info?


Posted by Moral Hazard on Nov-21-2008 15:25:

quote:
Originally posted by VERTiG0
http://www.modaco.com/content/pocke...w-free-utility/

Also why can't Bell disable data for your account on their end? Rogers did it for me.


Strange... Rogers claimed they couldn't do it for me. One way around it would be to delete all the service books for services that use mobile Data (that's what I did).


Posted by exstasie on Nov-21-2008 15:27:

quote:
Originally posted by Moral Hazard
Strange... Rogers claimed they couldn't do it for me. One way around it would be to delete all the service books for services that use mobile Data (that's what I did).


I know for a fact they are able to.

The CSR you talked to might not have known anything. Usually they don't.

Make sure when you call Rogers you call the Data Department CSR. It's a completely different number and they should know how to do it (though it wouldn't surprise if they didn't even know).


Posted by Rodrico on Nov-21-2008 15:39:

So what smart phones are coming to canadian carriers this holiday season that are worth picking up? I have Rogers right now, and all I see is the Iphone, but I really would like an HTC Touch Pro or the Sony X1 Xperia (if it comes out in canada?). I like my curve, but id rather sell it and get something useful for browsing the internet with, any suggestions or is the Iphone the ultimate browser phone over the new ones coming out?


Posted by Orko on Nov-21-2008 20:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Rodrico
So what smart phones are coming to canadian carriers this holiday season that are worth picking up? I have Rogers right now, and all I see is the Iphone, but I really would like an HTC Touch Pro or the Sony X1 Xperia (if it comes out in canada?). I like my curve, but id rather sell it and get something useful for browsing the internet with, any suggestions or is the Iphone the ultimate browser phone over the new ones coming out?


No phone comes with a good browser experience. The iPhone is one of the better ones, but if you load Opera on a Windows Mobile, then it is pretty comparable. Plus Opera has some nice customizing features.


Posted by rabbitjoker on Nov-21-2008 20:54:

quote:
Originally posted by Orko
No phone comes with a good browser experience. The iPhone is one of the better ones, but if you load Opera on a Windows Mobile, then it is pretty comparable. Plus Opera has some nice customizing features.


Not true. The new version of IE mobile (to be released) rocks.


Posted by Orko on Nov-21-2008 20:55:

For Windows Mobile 7? Do you know if it is coming to WM6? Pocket IE is a piece of garbage right now, and has been since they introduced it.

Any links, or details?


Posted by rabbitjoker on Nov-21-2008 21:24:

quote:
Originally posted by Orko
For Windows Mobile 7? Do you know if it is coming to WM6? Pocket IE is a piece of garbage right now, and has been since they introduced it.

Any links, or details?


IE Mobile 6 will work for WM6 and is build off the same codebase as IE.

http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile...r-mobile-6.aspx


Posted by VERTiG0 on Nov-21-2008 21:33:

I used Opera Mini on my Touch and found it superior to just about everything (except betas of Opera Mobile 9.x).


Posted by Orko on Nov-21-2008 21:41:

quote:

# re: Internet Explorer Mobile 6
Wednesday, November 12, 2008 1:41 PM by Khush

Folks,

My name is Khush and I am from the Windows Mobile team.

Let me take this opportunity to respond to some of the questions raised:

1. IE Mobile 6 is expected to show up in devices at the end of 2008 or early 2009.

2. We understand your concerns about bringing IE 6 to the Windows Mobile platform. The features we deliver aren�t always articulated and defined by version numbers. For instance, although this release is called Internet Explorer Mobile 6, there are components from other versions of Internet Explorer for the desktop. One example of that is the support for Jscript v5.7 which we brought over from Internet Explorer 8 for the desktop.

3. Regarding making IE Mobile available as a separate download or update, the rich media experiences that IE Mobile 6 enables require more powerful, advanced devices. That is why it will not be available as an upgrade or direct download for current phones, but rather will be made available on new phones.


Absolutely no help to existing users.


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