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Ca doit être très dur de lire tout ça après tout le boulot qui a été fourni mais il y a sans aucun doute des enseignements à tirer dans toutes ces critiques qui, je le pense, sont fondées et honnêtes pour la plupart d'entre elles.
Essaie de prendre du recul et de réfléchir posément. A toi de reconsidérer les choses le plus justement possible et je suis sûr que tu sauras tirer toutes les leçons de ce qu'il s'est passé pour agir en conséquence.
Courage pour la suite et surtout ne lâche pas le morceau sur un coup de tête car tu as tellement fait jusqu'à aujourd'hui. C'est tout ce que je peux te dire à mon niveau. 
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| Originally posted by Kartman MERCI Dany d'avoir essayé et merci d'avoir réussi a tant de reprises toutes les soirées qu'il y a eu sur lyon. |
Re: BULLSHIT!
Bon, on a eu les commentaires de Menno et de Precision, et les autres, ils en pense quoi ???
En tous cas, Precision a, apparement piqué la ou ça fait mal, mais j'attend la réponse de Dany avant de m'exprimer la dessus. Je m'etait déjà trop aventurer sur mon post de vendredi soir....
et ben ... 
Vous voulez des réponses :
En voilà :
Les Vols, tous bookés, les changements de dernières minutes ont été dues aux dates, car les vols étaient surbookés (retour de vacances).
Maintenant sur les personnes qui ont achetés leurs billets et qui ne sont pas venus .... ???? Et bein j'en sais rien. Je sais juste que je les ai vendus.
Maintenant, just for u Pascal, yes i have some allergies attack, and i go in hospital for having an operation in the end of september. Do you want a letter of my doctor or not ? Look with some people who are with me saturday at 2h at the bar in outdoor, and speak with them about my health.
Et pour infos si çà vous intéresse je vous donne en pm, car je suis pas du genre à balancer en public, les reçus des paiements pour les djs à l'étranger, et les book des avions.
Ils veulent parlés de professionalisme... Ok ? Alors qu'ils le soient.
Qu'ils previennent au moins avant, qu'on les attendent pas à l'aéroport pour rien. Et qu'on est aussi le temps d'annuler les vols.
Résultat pertes en vols non utilisés : 3200€
Maintenant pour les Suisses ... Ils sont arrivés le samedi soir (0h30), ils ont campés à Miribel et ont visités Lyon avant de venir, mais ils étaient là.
Et puis demandé aussi à Pascal qui a mis le doute à tout le monde pour ne pas venir ...??? Je crois qu'il y est pour beaucoup.
La prochaine fois c'est mieux de dire dès le départ qu'on veut pas venir.
Et pourquoi pas me faire confiance, est ce que j'ai pas payé un des djs qui est déjà venu ??? NON jamais....
Tout le monde a toujours eu ce qui lui était dû et ce sera le cas. Mais si ce sont des gens corrects nos stars, ceux qui sont pas venus et qui ont ou vont recevoir leur cachets ... Qu'ils ne les touches pas et les renvois... Sinon ce sera la preuve qu'ils ne pensent qu'au tunes et qu'ils ont délibéremment descendus la soirée.
Sur ceux désolés, à tous si je réponds pas rapidement mais j'ai du boulot autres que les soirées pour renflouer les pertes. Car elles sont énormes pour informations.
Et... oui je suis aussi malade...
Pour infos... Plus de soirées jusqu'à nouvel ordre...
Et pour ma part, je juge que j'ai donné au delà que n'importe qui aurait pu faire. Financièrement et humainement.
Je pense avoir été sympa avec tout le monde en essayant de faire au mieux.
Tanpis... Ca a pas plu
Vous me reverrez plus de si tôt
Dommage je vous aimes bien tous et sincèrement j'ai passé de bon moment avec vous tous... Mais là j'ai les boules grave
piniaize, moi qui decouvre ce forum suite a la soirée de ce weekend, ça fait bizarre comme premiere impression... 
Always those excuses.
you just have to face the truth that you fucked up this whole thing.
And now you want to blame the djs?
djs had to pay their own travel from hotel to airport, you were not reachable, djs sending you sms, agencies & djs trying to call you, and you were hiding.
tssk tssk...
DANY! ZERO POINTS!
YOU FAILED!
Dommage que tout se barre en couille comme ça...
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| Originally posted by stanymi Dommage que tout se barre en couille comme ça... |
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| Originally posted by stanymi Dommage que tout se barre en couille comme ça... |
Alors là c'est même pas la peine de lui demander de revenir à Lyon à dj Précision vu sa réaction et j'aurai fait de même si j'avais dû payer mes frais de retour !!!!!
On dit qu'il n'y a pas de soirées en France, mais bon si on s'y prend comme ça, ben c'est pas prêt de s'arranger, moi je vous le dit !!!
J'ai pas fini d'aller faire la fête en Hollande
djs to blame?
firstly i was so excited about this thing called paradise in the city
but how the time flied i was more desinterested by it.. all was turning into shit, dany was starting lying about the djs, that he'll make his payments..
i will tell you my little story for now as i am not home and dont have time to write a full one (i will though in 2 days when i get back home) :
first of all i got my flight details on a electronic ticket with like less than 1 day before i had to fly .. they werent even the good flights.
right, then i get in milano and miss my transit flight because the company delayed the flight (dunno why) so instead of being at the party on friday i slept alone in a Milan hotel.. for like 3 hours, had to get up and fly again.
ok, arrived at the airport, my luggage was lost.. i had the same clothes on the next day (saturday)..
finally i was in Lyon / St. Exupery airport at 7:50 AM... nobody was there to pick me up of course, and i have told people to sms dany/misja/rank1 to come and pick me up .. nobody was there... it was 12:30 PM ... still nobody .. i was talking on the phone with my girlfriend and ive put her to contact some of the djs including DJ Precision to tell me what is happening (as my cellphone was dead in another country than mine).
then i got tired and find out that Rank1 and Niklas Harding were also in this situation and had to take a cab to the place..bah
after a long time i arrive at the good hotel with the help of some people, and then i find out that my luggage was still not there.. same fucking clothes..
then dany comes to the hotel and says "sorry sorry, i came yesterday but you were not there"
yeah sure, like people didnt tell you about that i lost my flight and told you to come pick me up
then i met some wonderful people like Ferry Tayle and his crew, including David Emonin from ETN and Nicolas David, went around in town TO EAT SOME FOOD, BECAUSE DANY WAS NOT THERE TO "ALL FOODS & DRINKS ARE SUPPORTED BY THE EVENT MANAGER" RIGHT..
then dany saying later that he'll be getting to pick me up at around 9 PM... of course he didnt show up... i had to go with the other people because i dont know what the fuck was he doing
then we were there and of course dany was there... i didnt even ask him why he didnt come, but believe me people that it was not my fucking fault about anything..
then later on when djs played .. they have asked for their money and he didnt want to give it... he just gave bits and bits... i didnt came for any money .. i came for free just to meet people ... and i have to say that i made dany a favour with that
AND YES YOU DUMB FUCK, WHEN YOU CALL SOMEBODY LIKE SIGNUM AND RANK1, YOU PAY IN ADVANCE BECAUSE THEY ARE A MILLION TIMES BIGGER THAN EVERYBODY, ITS NOT ABOUT TRA LA LA AND HEE HEE HEE, THE MUSIC IS NOT JUST FUN AND PASSION, FOR THEM ITS WHAT THEY DO DAILY, ITS A FULL TIME JOB, THEREFOR YOU HAVE TO PAY
right now i dont give a shit that a thousand replys on my address will be rude and keeping up for dany, you dont know what the fuck happened there... "back stage"
i asked him for my 60 euros because i had to call a cab and come there, and he said he wouldnt give me any money because he already sent some money to DJ Precision and that i would have get it there...yes?! check his bank account.. 0,0! and he said that he would pick me up later sunday and go around Lyon to show me stuff and eat.
at around 7 PM sunday i was the only artist in the hotel and i decided dany was not coming, so i got out of the hotel and strolled around Lyon for some fucking food. all by myself. homeless people were looking at me like a big 500 euro bill or something .. i knew they were going to beat me or steal my money/food.. so i ran .. yes .. i fucking ran.. because i was scared..
and after all this my luggage was STILL NOT FUCKING FOUND just before 4 hours i had to leave home
and of course no sign from dany to pick me up at the airport
and i had to pay out of my own pocket 60 euros for the taxi to St. Exupery aiport.
then everything was fine, boarding in the plane, when i arrive in milan .. some agent tells me your e-ticket is invalid.. you cannot fly anymore... you must call this and that, and it was like 30 minutes till the plane was leaving.. so i looked around everywhere to ask for WHY THE FUCK IT IS INVALID... NOBODY TOLD ME... THEY SAID THEY DONT KNOW... WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT, I DONT KNOW..
i have no idea how the fuck this happened, but i think dany made some false e-ticket for me... because they said that the flight was already used .. from Milan to Bucharest, as i was in Lyon all fucking weekend, explain that.. you idiot.
at around 11:30 AM i had to pay 300 euros (and my last fucking money) to buy a ticket home, i was nearly crying of ANGER, of how can a man be so fucking liar and crude to the djs.
i hope you will believe me on this one, because i have no intention to lie... i am a good person, you can ask everybody that. but dany has crossed the line several times
and, remember... you "organiser" .. that you owe me 420 EUROS, yes .. out of my own pocket that YOU were suppose to pay..
its not all about the hee hee hee and tra laa laa.
why dont you JUST FUCKING ADMIT THAT YOU HAVE FAILED AND THAT YOU ARE A NOT ORGANIZER, DONT BLAME THE DJS BECAUSE ITS ALL ABOUT THE MONEY, FUCK OFF WITH THAT.. WHEN U BECOME AN ORGANISER U HAVE TO TAKE BIG RISKS, THAT U NEVER TOOK, I CAN DO BETTER PARTIES THAN YOU..
i will work my way hard on this with the other djs, and mark my words YOU WILL NEVER ORGANISE A PARTY AGAIN!
ill be back with more info in 2 days.
no word lied by sonicvibe there!!!!
First I got realy sick of the food supplied by the organisation on the event. Of course every body thought is was from alcohol. But no one gets drunk on 4 beers.
On sunday I had to fly back on 6:45 and need to leave the hotel at 5:00. Dany PROMISSED to pick me up, so I send text message to dany if he or some-one-else could pick my up to drive me to the airport. OK, i got a answer. But not a good 1. Text was clear to me.... "NO"
So had to pick a cab as well. Like everybody.....
The way you have been treated Sonicvibe is a SHAME especially given the long travel you had to make and the fact that trance is more important to you than money. Your story is really surreal.
I hope this will not deter you from coming back to France
Wowwww 
I was like "Gooddd, this can't bee !!" from the beginning till the end of your story. I'm really surprised about that and still can't believe what I just read ! Man, this is somekind of a journey there... I understand the way you feel travelling in those conditions, not knowing anybody and being alone, and having mass problems... Not really the best thing to experience especially when you're expected to spin at some parties hours after.
Now we are beginning to have a few details on how all this went...And it doesn't look good... Wonder what everybody else is thinking about that and what would be the reactions of the people who have other informations...
Hope everything is gonna get back in order !
Precision+Misja+Sonicvibe vs Dany....
si on rajoute à çà l'histoire avec Koris de l'année dernière, sincèrement j'ai envie de te croire Dany, mais plus çà va moins c'est facile...
Franchement, tes arguments peuvent éventuellement être valables, j'ai rien qui puisse les réfuter.
Par contre qu'une persone qui a acheter sa place 42€ et qui ne vient pas çà va.
Mais 1000.... avoue que c'est pas facile à gober quand même.....
Now i understand why DJs are really really angry
I'm not a DJ but I would have done the same if i had to pay more than 400€ to play to a gig ....
I hope precision & sonicvibe and all other djs will come back in france in the future 
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Si ce que dit sonicvibe est vrai et bien c'est vraiment du n'importe quoi de la part de l'organisation 
, je suis desolé de dire ça mais quand tu vois que le gars il se tape 2000km en avion qu'il débarque dans un pays ou il ne connait pas la langue, personne ne l'attend, pas de bouffe, pas de taxi, rien ... Et bien ca fait mal au cul quand même
C'est sûr que d'organiser un event comme ça en france est extraordinaire et on remercie dany pour ça, mais si c'est pour se rendre compte qu'on a eu les yeux plus gros que le ventre et qu'on laisse dans la merde des DJ professionels, mieux vaut rester chez soi.
Je vais peut-être me faire des ennemis sur ta-fr (j'y étais pas a l'event donc j'ai peut etre rien à dire) mais là quand on voit les histoires racontées par precision et sonicvibe, que dany à l'air de nier le fait (peut-être a t-il raison ?) j'ai pas pu m'empecher de gueuler, rien qu'en pensant dans quel situation se trouvait sonicvibe ...
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Si on veut faire venir quelques events trance en france, c'est par là qu'il faut aller et dany a très bien montrer le chemin. Maintenant je pense qu'il faut aller dans l'ordre, qques DJ trance (4 au plus) au départ et gaganer la confiance de ceux-ci.
of course I want to come back to france.
but next time better organisation is needed. that's all.
Having at least 10 DJ's from abroard is not a small deal, you need to take of things really carefull. And I think that was misjudged by Daniel big-time.
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| Originally posted by misja of course I want to come back to france. but next time better organisation is needed. that's all. Having at least 10 DJ's from abroard is not a small deal, you need to take of things really carefull. And I think that was misjudged by Daniel big-time. |
Dany nous confirme qu'il a bien vendu les 1000 places et de l'autre coté que les pertes cont colosalles, j'ai un peu du mal à comprendre 
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| Originally posted by djmanu Dany nous confirme qu'il a bien vendu les 1000 places et de l'autre coté que les pertes cont colosalles, j'ai un peu du mal à comprendre |
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| Originally posted by Cyber ben ces 1000 personnes n'ont rien bu ni manger |
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| Originally posted by rafon3 Sauf que l'argent de la bouffe et du bar ne revient pas à Dany. Là c'est La Chapelle qui se mort les cou***es... |
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