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Originally posted by paranoik0 The thing is that it's not some banal common preventive medicine. It's cutting part of your dick, ffs.

I suppose they should stop cutting the umbilical cord too? That's a part of you too.

Sorry, I'm not "pro-cut", I don't necessarily believe that it should be forced on infants, but your one-line arguments don't hold much water (and that goes for many people in this thread, not just you obviously). At least NeoPhono's backing up his position on this.

I find it ironic that serious topics are being hijacked and/or end up in flame wars while supposedly "fun" threads evolve into intelligent debates

I didn't say there were no advantages of being circumcised. Though i reckon i didn't put anything to backup my argument.

Cutting part of your dick is very different from cutting the umbillical cord because it's a sexual issue and people are very picky about their sexual organs, it's something very personal. You won't see many people complaining nowadays cause someone cut their umbillical cords, nobody cares. But people obviously care about their dicks.

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Originally posted by NeoPhono The article says that of those complications, by far the most common was intraoperatal bleeding. That occurs in any proceedure, it just means you bleed. Yeah, if you get part of your penis cut off that happens, but I don't consider that a "high magnitude" risk. If you don't believe my cost/risk analysis, here is one from a Canadian research team, and one from the University of Michigan.

Yes, bleeding is the most common complication, and it is not a high-magnitude risk, but there are some other less common complications that are a higher-magnitude risk than a simple UTI.

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I agree, but unless you're walking around naked, I don't see this as much of an issue.

Well, I dunno, even below my underware, my head feels kinda...unprotected when I retract the foreskin.

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Ahh...so since children don't give consent, we shouldn't perform preventitive medicine on them? I think that would open up a very big debate, since children are unable to give consent. I guess we're just going to have to let a lot of children deal with their medical issues until they're 18. There go childhood immunizations, since the risk of acutally aquiring the illness is low in developed countries in comparision to the risk of complications from the immunizations.

It is true that the risk of getting the infection is low (mainly because of the very procedure of vaccinization), but once you get those infections, unlike with urinary infections, the risk of death or severe consequences is very high. Besides, vaccination doesn't leave any permanent scars of the magnitude left by circumcision.

Oh, and a question for you, do you still have your wisdom teeth and appendix or did you have had those removed too?

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Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0 Oh, and a question for you, do you still have your wisdom teeth and appendix or did you have had those removed too?

My wisdom teeth are removed and if I develop an appendicitis my appendix will be gone too. Both of those are far more invasive and far more prone to complication then a circumcision.

ive never had sex before, but. wont my forskin flap back and forth while gettin a blowjob? thats why im so confused about it, on if i should really get this cut, im 17 and i dont know, i might have sex soon one day and i wanna know some shit.

You or your g/f can hold back your "flap" when you're getting a BJ.

This is not to scare you, but just make sure your "first" is someone that you care for (not that I would suggest otherwise for anyone). As I'm assuming she'll be American, and most American women have only seen uncircumcised men. That's all Americans see in porn, movies, etc, and also what the overwhelming majority of American men are. If you are with someone who cares for you the intial "shock" (if there is any) of an uncircumcised penis will be much easier to deal with.

And yes, this can be an issue as many of my friends that are girls have told me "horror" stories of the first time they encountered an uncircumcised penis. It's just a cultural thing (American) and most American girls prepare themselves to only see circumcised penises. I'm sure they get used to it though.

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Originally posted by TranceSpeeder ive never had sex before, but. wont my forskin flap back and forth while gettin a blowjob? thats why im so confused about it, on if i should really get this cut, im 17 and i dont know, i might have sex soon one day and i wanna know some shit.

Don't get it cut!!! The gliding mechanism makes sex better for both the man and woman when you're uncircumcised.

If you get it cut, you're going to lose much of the sensation down there. It is also a cause of premature ejaculation.

Plus getting it cut will leave a nasty scar.

yes. if i wasnt, id contemplate suicide.

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Originally posted by rainbow_marble yes. if i wasnt, id contemplate suicide.

I would encourage you to go ahead with your threat anyway sir.

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Originally posted by ShadoWolf I would encourage you to go ahead with your threat anyway sir.

i second that!

i'm uncut o_O
wow damn i just read 10 frikkin pages about penises and foreskin and shit.

hey i wanna join the un-cut alliance too!

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Originally posted by Boomer187 sweet jesus. 9 pages of penis is enough. stop posting and die thread. we need a vagina thread er something.

can we make it 10? hehe

anyways, i was just reading this post...and it soo hilarious how all the guys are all talking about each others penises plus it is funny to know that 90% of tas are uncircumsized rotfl!!!!!!!!!!!

thats it for now!

cheers
indy

ya, makes me feel better knowing the TA's are uncut.

Uncut At first i was actualy scared to have sex as its very sensitive and was thinking of having it cut, but atfer my first time *HUGE SMILE* the extra fieling was alll good so i thought id stay natural and live as god made us all UNcut

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Originally posted by TranceSpeeder ive never had sex before, but. wont my forskin flap back and forth while gettin a blowjob? thats why im so confused about it, on if i should really get this cut, im 17 and i dont know, i might have sex soon one day and i wanna know some shit.

Short answer: No. Long answer: No it wont. Again, the vast majority of people in he western world are uncut, even in the US the rates of circumcision are consistently falling - you're not in a tiny minority here.

Regardless, all this pen0r talk is highly disturbing - let's make a vagin0r thread or something.

I think the real question is, how many TA females are circumsized?

Circumcision (female), form of mutilation of the female genital organs for religious/ritual purposes, often as part of an initiation rite. Also known as clitoridectomy, female circumcision involves the surgical removal of parts of the clitoris, labia minora, and labia majora. Also sometimes performed is infibulation, in which the labia are sewn up, allowing a small opening through which urine and menstrual fluid may pass.

The clitoris is extremely sensitive and plays a central role in female sexual stimulation. Hence despite other religious or cultural reasons for performing clitoridectomy, an underlying function is clearly the prevention of unwanted female sexual desire, thereby controlling extramarital sex, and keeping women passive.

Intercourse and childbirth for circumcised women are very painful and there are various associated medical risks: operations are often performed in unhygienic conditions by unqualified midwives, and patients may be at risk of contracting infections such as tetanus. Infibulation can lead to a buildup of menstrual fluid. Death often results from the operation.

Female circumcision is practised in many indigenous and non-Western cultures. It has recently been brought to the West by immigrants from certain areas. Human rights organizations view female circumcision as mutilation and have campaigned for its abolition. Feminists have seen it as a means of controlling women and perpetuating their subjugation. However, it is often women who wish for their daughters to be circumcised.

my penis hurts from reading all that

Happily NO

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Originally posted by Boomer187

"The latest on how to save more, invest wisely and plan for the future" ?? If a circumcision will do all that for me, you can sign me up!


By the way I think male circumcision is an evil and barbaric thing to do to a baby who has no choice ion the matter... Particularly in religious ceremonies where often no anaesthetic is used.

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Originally posted by astroboy By the way I think male circumcision is an evil and barbaric thing to do to a baby who has no choice ion the matter... Particularly in religious ceremonies where often no anaesthetic is used.

true, though you must admit there wouldnt be many people lining up to have part of their penis chopped off when they'd become reposnsible descision making adults. maybe it's best to have such operations before you can comprehend what's going on.

anyways, here's something i dont get.... someone here said that cut guys are more prone to premature ejaculation, though they say uncut men have more sensative in their penis. doesnt that contradict? it'd make sense that oversensativity would cause premature ejaculation.

anyways i'm glad i've been cut (thankfully when i was 10 days old though).

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Originally posted by GelatinPufF Circumcision (female), form of mutilation of the female genital organs for religious/ritual purposes, often as part of an initiation rite. Also known as clitoridectomy, female circumcision involves the surgical removal of parts of the clitoris, labia minora, and labia majora. Also sometimes performed is infibulation, in which the labia are sewn up, allowing a small opening through which urine and menstrual fluid may pass. The clitoris is extremely sensitive and plays a central role in female sexual stimulation. Hence despite other religious or cultural reasons for performing clitoridectomy, an underlying function is clearly the prevention of unwanted female sexual desire, thereby controlling extramarital sex, and keeping women passive. Intercourse and childbirth for circumcised women are very painful and there are various associated medical risks: operations are often performed in unhygienic conditions by unqualified midwives, and patients may be at risk of contracting infections such as tetanus. Infibulation can lead to a buildup of menstrual fluid. Death often results from the operation. Female circumcision is practised in many indigenous and non-Western cultures. It has recently been brought to the West by immigrants from certain areas. Human rights organizations view female circumcision as mutilation and have campaigned for its abolition. Feminists have seen it as a means of controlling women and perpetuating their subjugation. However, it is often women who wish for their daughters to be circumcised.

no wonder my girl friend aint that horny... LOL jk

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