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Originally posted by Evil_Gnome I dont get why people just assume that if aliens do exist, they are so far advanced from us. They could be, they could not be. You cant just assume that they are more advanced than us. Also, maybe they are just doing the same thing as us in space, research.

Statistically, you�ve got an even chance either way that they are either more, or less advanced. And as it�s more likely to be the advanced ones who pose a thread, you might as well assume they all are.

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Originally posted by Evil_Gnome I dont get why people just assume that if aliens do exist, they are so far advanced from us. They could be, they could not be. You cant just assume that they are more advanced than us. Also, maybe they are just doing the same thing as us in space, research.

If they have the technology to travel to Earth, I'd say they're more advanced. Assuming that somewhere in space there is a species that is less advanced, we won't know about it anyway. Just getting out of our own solar system with our current technology takes bloody ages

That is assuming that it is aliens that travel to earth.

imo its rediculous to think that there is no other life in the universe

how self centered can someone be?
If I were an alien I'd be hesitant to distrupt a developing (relatively low tech) society by showing myself
causing chaos to another planet equals bad

i think there is life out there. the government is denying it and aliens dont want to contaminate our planet yet or we're not worthy compare to them yet. our gov know something and they cant hide forever. sooner or later it will be leak or there will be "landing" for us to see the truth. like airwave said "i want to believe"

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Originally posted by mndeg If I were an alien I'd be hesitant to distrupt a developing (relatively low tech) society by showing myself causing chaos to another planet equals bad

True, but you have to wonder if these aliens (if thats what they are) are just having fun zipping around, are trying to ease us into the idea of other life out there, or just plain suck at hiding themselves

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Originally posted by nrjizer True, but you have to wonder if these aliens (if thats what they are) are just having fun zipping around, are trying to ease us into the idea of other life out there, or just plain suck at hiding themselves

At least they're not coming down and telling us that their version of Jesus is our lord and savior. Which is probably what we'd do to them when we start visiting other planets and sending off-world our Christian missionaries.

OMG THE COVER UP BEGINS

http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/space/...reut/index.html

Weather may explain Mexico UFO stir

Monday, May 17, 2004 Posted: 10:15 AM EDT (1415 GMT)

MEXICO CITY (Reuters) -- A cluster of mysterious objects that surrounded a Mexican Air Force plane, alarming the pilots and sparking a UFO scare, could be a weather phenomenon known as ball lightning, a scientist said on Friday.

The pilots grew nervous during a routine drugs surveillance flight in March when their radar detected strange objects flying nearby and an infrared camera showed 11 blobs of light, invisible to the eye, hovering or darting about their plane.

Mexico's Air Force this week released footage from the infrared camera that was shown widely on television.

As Mexican and international media published photographs of the objects, UFO Web sites saw the case as possible evidence of a new sighting of some form of extraterrestrial life.

But nuclear science researcher Julio Herrera said the blobs of light may have been nothing more than ball lightning -- glowing spheres that are little understood but often sighted near the ground during thunderstorms.

"Just as you have lightning between clouds and ground, you can also have it within the clouds and sometimes ball lightning can develop. I feel this is one of these rare events," said Herrera, based at Mexico's National Autonomous University.

"It's a very rare atmospheric phenomenon and it would be very interesting to be able to analyze all the information these pilots obtained," he told Reuters.

UFO follower Jaime Maussan said on Tuesday the objects seemed "intelligent" after they turned around to surround the plane chasing them -- but Herrera said electrical discharges in ball lightning could have been attracted to the plane as a conductor.

ball lightning my ass!! this is a coverup!!

Pffft. I concur a coverup. When has science ever explained anything?

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Originally posted by occrider Pffft. I concur a coverup. When has science ever explained anything?

claiming it's ball lightning is not science!

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Originally posted by ShadoWolf claiming it's ball lightning is not science!

Why not? It's a proven scientific phenomenon which may explain the video. It's as valid of an explanation as the claim that they're visitors from outter space.

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Originally posted by occrider Why not? It's a proven scientific phenomenon which may explain the video. It's as valid of an explanation as the claim that they're visitors from outter space.

It's NEVER been proven.

Ball lightning is as much an enigma as UFO's.

In fact, I have NEVER heard of ball lightning outside of the context of UFO coverups.

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Originally posted by ShadoWolf It's NEVER been proven. Ball lightning is as much an enigma as UFO's. In fact, I have NEVER heard of ball lightning outside of the context of UFO coverups.

http://www.eskimo.com/~billb/tesla/ballgtn.html


gg

ball ligthning is lightning from zeus' ballz

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Originally posted by ShadoWolf It's NEVER been proven. Ball lightning is as much an enigma as UFO's. In fact, I have NEVER heard of ball lightning outside of the context of UFO coverups.

And just to back up boomer's post from a credible scientific news source:

http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99991720

At any rate, I didn't state that it is defintively ball lightning, I stated that it is as valid of an explanation for the phenomenon as the whole alien spiel.

Simply put, it's a ufo ... hence we don't know enough about it to put forth a definitive claim that they are aliens, ball lightning, or my farts igniting in the upper atmosphere.

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Originally posted by LinX i bet they could give us guys a really good orgasm (u know with all there really cool technology) hey meet my new gf ljeeeebuseeeing shes from outer space mom

maybe you should read the cases of people being kidnapped and being submitted to excruciating experiments. its more like terror tech to the victims.

from my educated impression, these ah greys don't a clue about human emotions or neurophysiological reactions like an orgasm. they, in mytheory, lack such the component to experience an orgasm, completely.

i think u guys are forgetting an important thing here. ok there are chances that intelligent life could exist on other planets. they could be more advanced or less advanced than us. but u're forgetting the time and space.
let's say it takes 1 billion years to develope to an intelligent lifeform as we know it, the big bang was 13 million years, so if there was advanced life somewhere, they already might have been exinct for another billion years. we've been using radiowaves for like 50 years, so a civilisation not more than 50 lightyears away from us might have the ability to intercept these waves. since the universe is huge, and there are only a few intelligent lifeforms (still a few million though ), it would be impropable that they are so near us. u can only travel at the speed of light, and he galaxy is bigger than billions of lightyears, so just forget that aliens will ever come here.

about those balls of light, there are theories that there are places where friction of moving ground, especially at mountainterrains, cause lighteffects in the sky...

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Originally posted by u4ea:[soulstar] maybe you should read the cases of people being kidnapped and being submitted to excruciating experiments. its more like terror tech to the victims. from my educated impression, these ah greys don't a clue about human emotions or neurophysiological reactions like an orgasm. they, in mytheory, lack such the component to experience an orgasm, completely.

Someone's been playing too much X-Com...

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"Just as you have lightning between clouds and ground, you can also have it within the clouds and sometimes ball lightning can develop. I feel this is one of these rare events," said Herrera, based at Mexico's National Autonomous University.

Ha Ha what have i been telling you from the beggining?!? Its Baaaaaaallllll lightninggg!!!

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It's NEVER been proven.In fact, I have NEVER heard of ball lightning outside of the context of UFO coverups.

When people observe an illuminating sphere in the sky prefer the "UFO" explanation(in the same way in ancient years they prefered the "god-of-lightning" explanation)rather than a more scientific one. They WANT to believe in UFOs as every one in this planet likes the exotic, the different, the adventurous rather than the plain cold reality. Besides, the "UFO" explanation is much easier than any natural mechanism. Thats why people prefer it.

And something else that a few others have mentioned...

Ok lets say that this is some kind of spaceship or ship in general why everyone is 100% sure that this is extraterrestrial? I mean it could be "intraterrestrial"-have you ever heard the theory of the hollow earth and the various evidence of this through-out the history(which is as compelling as the "extraterrestrial" explanation in my opinion if one is to believe in these things)
Or it could be visitors from the future.
Or as others mentioned, same or another goverment's experiments.
Or 6-dimensional spheres
or 32-dimensional cubes lol
it could be anything for christs sake(it could be angels lol) why every one is so convinced that THESE are aliens. IMO, its because you are all brainwashed from the "Alien neo-mythology" that went fashionable in the last 60-50 years. If one is to dwell in the realms of the fantastic, believing in conspiracies and aliens, than the alien-explanation is as high as the other fantastic scenarios i mention IMO. Anything is possible in you imagination, no boundaries there.

This encounter is very similar to an older Spanish One. The Manises Expedient.

I didn't say it was an alien, I said it was a UFO but not ball lightning based on the evidence.

The lights seemed to act intelligently. Ball lightning doesn't act intellignently.

Some of the lights showed up as bogeys on the Air Force radar. Ball lightning doesn't show up on radar.



The lights in the video COULD be a triangle alien ship, as such:





Compare with the actual Air Force footage:


That's just one possible explaination.

until they come and great us, i dont give a shit

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Originally posted by davinox until they come and great us, i dont give a shit

they have greeted our leaders.... supposedly


anyway, the Vulcans are not due here for another hundred years, when Zephram Cochrane makes his famous first warp test.


Duh.

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Originally posted by ShadoWolf

could it have been BT?!

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