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Posted by isoterra on Sep-16-2004 00:32:

They did say that the CD would be released at a lower price than usual also. I don't know how much lower yet, so won't comment, but it would be nice if it were alot cheaper since it'd be giving something back to the fans for their support, in a way.

Ima buy the vinyl either way, if it's good


Posted by idoru on Sep-16-2004 00:34:

quote:
Originally posted by isoterra
They did say that the CD would be released at a lower price than usual also. I don't know how much lower yet, so won't comment, but it would be nice if it were alot cheaper since it'd be giving something back to the fans for their support, in a way.

Ima buy the vinyl either way, if it's good


Yep. I think a couple people forgot to read in a few pages to see it mentioned at a lower price than the average CD.


Posted by Phortastic on Sep-16-2004 13:29:

quote:
Originally posted by tiesto14
Even though i try my best these past 2 years to stay away from defending Tiesto on here i will answer this.

Sander and Holden do it because they have no where near the success or popularity as DJ Tiesto...so by giving stuff for free or giving "exclusive" things on their site they draw more people.

DJ Tiesto on the other hand has probally the biggest fan base, rivaling Oakenfolds old one. He does not need to draw fans for free sets, t-shirts, misc crap because they come anyway. Tiesto does not need more people on his site or more people at his shows, unliek Sander, Holden and countless other DJs.

People seldom realize that DJ's are also business men. This is their livley hood, their proffesion the thing that puts food on their table. I keep hearing people talk about Tiesto going for the money and he is greedy blah blah blah. It is so patently absurd for people to say this. I do not see these same people cry like little girls that Bill Gates is not giving away free copies Microsoft Office or Warren Buffet giving free finacial advice because they are worth billions, yet you bitch and moan about not getting free crap from a man who does his best to please you at live shows and by producing, a man who can not even hold a candle to Gates or Buffets dollar.

Tiesto is doing the right thing...he should reap the benefits of this whole DJ thing for as long as he can. Remember these DJs are their own bosses, they do not get retirement plan or health benefits unless they pay for them themselves and they surley won't be DJing to the age of 65.

So next time you bitch like a little girl about Tiesto being greedy and not throwing you a free tshirt remember this is his JOB and he would not go to your job and ask for something free simply because you are a fan. Wake up people, it is a tough world out there and money sadly makes it go round...maybe when you grow up and move from mommy and daddys house you will find this out and look back and say "damn Tiesto was a smart man cashing in while he could".



WORD on that man.
Could not have said it any better!


Posted by skip on Sep-17-2004 07:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr.Mystery
Yeah, yeah, you're angry, we get it with less whipping.
Most of them will be out on CD singles anyway.




sorry if my whips pissed you off, but i really hate the route ti�sto is taking atm! only releasing full lenght stuff on vinyl while many others are supporting cd more and more. and i very much doubt that most of the tunes will be released as singles, if any. i just want full legal versions of the tracks on cd, just like i want full unedited legal versions of nyana and adagio off just be, but ti�sto has decided to take the way of many other dumbasses and release full stuff on vinyl only.

ti�sto's releasing policy:
ti�sto's tracks:


so, yeah i'm pissed off!


Posted by eXos on Sep-17-2004 08:09:

Listened to the CD, some of the tracks are nice, most of them are "piew-piew-piew"-trance songs


Posted by $tY!inN><tC on Sep-17-2004 08:27:

Just listened to the promo and IMO it's a bit better than Just Be. Some of his new tracks sound preety good, nothing outstanding just typical Tiesto 2004 style. The opening was decent with some trancy breaks, but the ending track wasn't all that great. But overall It was better then what I had expected it to be. 7/10


Posted by BeeJay on Sep-17-2004 08:32:

quote:
Originally posted by tiesto14
Even though i try my best these past 2 years to stay away from defending Tiesto on here i will answer this.

Sander and Holden do it because they have no where near the success or popularity as DJ Tiesto...so by giving stuff for free or giving "exclusive" things on their site they draw more people.

DJ Tiesto on the other hand has probally the biggest fan base, rivaling Oakenfolds old one. He does not need to draw fans for free sets, t-shirts, misc crap because they come anyway. Tiesto does not need more people on his site or more people at his shows, unliek Sander, Holden and countless other DJs.

People seldom realize that DJ's are also business men. This is their livley hood, their proffesion the thing that puts food on their table. I keep hearing people talk about Tiesto going for the money and he is greedy blah blah blah. It is so patently absurd for people to say this. I do not see these same people cry like little girls that Bill Gates is not giving away free copies Microsoft Office or Warren Buffet giving free finacial advice because they are worth billions, yet you bitch and moan about not getting free crap from a man who does his best to please you at live shows and by producing, a man who can not even hold a candle to Gates or Buffets dollar.

Tiesto is doing the right thing...he should reap the benefits of this whole DJ thing for as long as he can. Remember these DJs are their own bosses, they do not get retirement plan or health benefits unless they pay for them themselves and they surley won't be DJing to the age of 65.

So next time you bitch like a little girl about Tiesto being greedy and not throwing you a free tshirt remember this is his JOB and he would not go to your job and ask for something free simply because you are a fan. Wake up people, it is a tough world out there and money sadly makes it go round...maybe when you grow up and move from mommy and daddys house you will find this out and look back and say "damn Tiesto was a smart man cashing in while he could".


Hell yeah, couldnt say it any better. This board needs more people like you who can write with reason.


Posted by wwu.punisher on Sep-17-2004 08:38:

You are all taking this way too far. It doesn't mean anything whether or not you're making money with your music. As long as you turn out good music, that's all most people care about. You can debate about all of this bullshit for an eternity, so why not just listen to the album instead?

Jesus.

Great album, btw.


Posted by rogue on Sep-17-2004 09:42:

I dont care if he chases the money, but I do care when he releases sub-standard songs. All but a couple of the new songs feel like they were just rushed for the olympics, often lacking the attention and quality that many of his productions usually have, and lethal industry wasnt even 2004 remix.


Posted by C-quence on Sep-17-2004 10:11:

Many people really do talk bullshit.
IMHO he's the only one who produces many tracks which are not standard trance. He takes risks with producing his own style.
He could do the trick over and over again (like Ron van den Beuken), but he uses completely different sounds and patches in each song (not talking about the 2004 remixes on the cd).

I don't like all the tracks, but I think it's nice music, quality stuff. And the best thing: It's original, more original than the most stuff released at the moment.


Posted by Sami.H on Sep-17-2004 11:21:

Tiesto - Heroes <-- this tune rocks


Posted by MichaelBoogerd! on Sep-17-2004 11:35:

quote:
Originally posted by C-quence
Many people really do talk bullshit.
IMHO he's the only one who produces many tracks which are not standard trance. He takes risks with producing his own style.
He could do the trick over and over again (like Ron van den Beuken), but he uses completely different sounds and patches in each song (not talking about the 2004 remixes on the cd).

I don't like all the tracks, but I think it's nice music, quality stuff. And the best thing: It's original, more original than the most stuff released at the moment.


DEFINATELY more creative than a lot of trance out there at the moment... BHR is the only place to FIND quality trance these days... everything else just samples the hell out of 1999 trance or copies RvdB - Timeless.


Posted by Magistrate on Sep-17-2004 13:14:

quote:
Originally posted by Sami.H
Tiesto - Heroes <-- this tune rocks


is that the one of pinkpop?


Posted by Toufas on Sep-17-2004 14:18:

didnt like it at all...imho just be was better...i only liked olympic flame

3/10 and only coz its tiesto and i respect his past


Posted by Mr.Mystery on Sep-17-2004 16:06:

quote:
Originally posted by n0bben-
basically that sums all up, if it wasnt tiesto no one would praise this shit heh

...and if it wasn't Tiesto noone would accuse him of doing the album just to make money.

Double standards are the trend of the day


Posted by ISOS on Sep-17-2004 16:13:

jj

that track before lethal industry I know that tune or it sounded almost the same as a track I know but I dont know which one so help me out!!


Posted by Magistrate on Sep-17-2004 16:24:

quote:
Originally posted by Toufas
didnt like it at all...imho just be was better...i only liked olympic flame

3/10 and only coz its tiesto and i respect his past


how do you know all those tracks?


Posted by AversusZ on Sep-17-2004 16:28:

quote:
Originally posted by Magistrate
how do you know all those tracks?


mp3 release

sadly people can't wait for the real thing.


Posted by Magistrate on Sep-17-2004 17:22:

ah, i found it now
thanx
cant wait till it's finished


Posted by eXos on Sep-17-2004 17:46:

quote:
Originally posted by AversusZ
mp3 release

sadly people can't wait for the real thing.


Why wait?

If you find it a nice CD you buy it. Otherwise its DEL


Posted by nettwerk on Sep-17-2004 18:03:

Re: jj

quote:
Originally posted by ISOS
that track before lethal industry I know that tune or it sounded almost the same as a track I know but I dont know which one so help me out!!


It's a remake of Theme From Norefjell (Jan & Cristopher Chanztis Mix), I believe.

quote:
Originally posted by eXos
Why wait?

If you find it a nice CD you buy it. Otherwise its DEL


Precisely what I do. And I shall buy it, if I find it around here. The album doesn't seem to be that bad, however the mixing has its ups and down, I think...


Posted by idoru on Sep-17-2004 18:20:

Re: Re: jj

I heard it last night, and I must say that it shits on Just Be. Yes, I attempted to listen to it with as little bias as possible, and I still loved it. More uplifting that his Just Be stuff, and a lot of the trance that has been released lately. Nothing over-rated or cheesy, either. The only dissapointment was Traffic, but the other tracks quite make up for it.

10/10

Oh, and for those who say "omg dont get this buy the cd support the artist!", I was already planning on picking up both the CD and the Vinyl-pack. Deal with it.

quote:
Originally posted by The Darklord
It's a remake of Theme From Norefjell (Jan & Cristopher Chanztis Mix), I believe.


Bingo.


Posted by Glaniskanis on Sep-17-2004 18:41:

The track before Lethal Industry isnt the remake of Norefjell
its Olympic Flame... dunno where you shouldve heard it before tho


Posted by TOR on Sep-17-2004 18:49:

i love the Theme from Norefjell remix.. sounds really raw and dirty. the production is very amateurish really, but i like that. a track's beauty lays in its imperfection.


the other tracks didn't do much for me


Posted by nettwerk on Sep-17-2004 19:04:

quote:
Originally posted by Glaniskanis
The track before Lethal Industry isnt the remake of Norefjell
its Olympic Flame... dunno where you shouldve heard it before tho


Aye, the track is called Olympic Flame... and why can't it be a remake of TFN?


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