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Originally posted by Echo of Silence Really? Why then if my university performs stem cell research is it no longer eligible for federally funded grants?

your university is lame?

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Originally posted by Nite-Mer My only real complaint about Bush is that he won't just admit that he makes mistakes. I don't think Iraq was a mistake, but I think he should be honest about his motives. If he had said he went in to get a dictator, we put in power, out of power, I think that people would have been more satisfied with the move. The economy is only partly effected by the President and it usually takes time for those policies to make an impact. These next four years will show how effective his policies are or are not. Greenspan has a lot more impact on the economy than Bush does. We shall see what happens in the near future. The other factor on the economy that could not be accounted for was 9/11. It takes a while to restore order after an event of such impact.

I was just bringing light to the reality of a lot pf people saying bush is causing a lack in jobs. and bush is killing th economy blah blah blah. Unemployment rates are down, there is money going back into the economy as is evident by company earning reports and the stock market going up. All while bush is in office. With 9/11 happening the economy has recovered pretty quick in comparison to what history predicted.

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Originally posted by Echo of Silence is it? or are you just my latest annoyance?

latest?

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Originally posted by getfoul I was just bringing light to the reality of a lot pf people saying bush is causing a lack in jobs. and bush is killing th economy blah blah blah. Unemployment rates are down, there is money going back into the economy as is evident by company earning reports and the stock market going up. All while bush is in office. With 9/11 happening the economy has recovered pretty quick in comparison to what history predicted.

I concur. If the trends continue and the economy gets better, people won't be able to blame Bush for Clinton's policies. That is what I expect and another reason I am glad he got re-elected. If he had not, people could attribute good changes to the economy and job market to Kerry.

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Originally posted by Aristronica we will be alot more conservative though, you're right on that

Does not seem such a good idea, ya know.

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Originally posted by Nite-Mer The economy is only partly effected by the President and it usually takes time for those policies to make an impact.

Agreed, I learned in Economics class that it's just a case of wrong place at the wrong time for Bush. That's why he's getting the blame for the bad economy, even though he has nothing to do with it. On the other hand, if he were to spend about $50 million on redecorating the White House, then the bad economy would be his fault.

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Originally posted by CGRumler Agreed, I learned in Economics class that it's just a case of wrong place at the wrong time for Bush. That's why he's getting the blame for the bad economy, even though he has nothing to do with it. On the other hand, if he were to spend about $50 million on redecorating the White House, then the bad economy would be his fault.

I dunno about that, "The Neon Green House" has a little ring to it.

Just a statement: George W. Bush has not been elected as King of the world. As President, he has power over the executive branch - not a whole lot more. If all of you people from other countries have such objections to Bush rising to power, why is it that you treat him as a God elected by all of those 'stupid Americans'? Wouldn't it be easier to just recognize that Bush isn't your father trying to keep you from going out on a Saturday night, but is, rather, just a single man who has been labeled to represent a cause?

It's almost as idiotic as people's specific hatred towards Osama bin Laden - the only power he has gained has been the power you have given him. Osama is not the entire terrorist network of the evil middle East - he is one man, fighting for a cause he believes in (ignoble one at that), and should not be deified and villified as though he is the entire problem.

Don't let your puppeted frustrations cloud your judgement.

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Originally posted by getfoul I dunno about that, "The Neon Green House" has a little ring to it.

I'm not familiar with that.

pics or stfu

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Originally posted by Halcyon+On+On Just a statement: George W. Bush has not been elected as King of the world. As President, he has power over the executive branch - not a whole lot more.

hes not king of the world but hes the leader of own of the most powerful (economically, militarily) nations in the world and has influence or many countries if not all to some small extent. thats right, he has power over the executive branch and not the judicial or legislative. What gives if he had judicial or legislative power. Everyone knows he doesnt and if he did if wouldnt be a "democratic" country.


its sad that a country is so divided by only about 3.5 million votes, which is not very much at all and so different in values, which is what decided this election for a large part, in my opinion

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Originally posted by Dmatrox hes not king of the world but hes the leader of own of the most powerful (economically, militarily) nations in the world and has influence or many countries if not all to some small extent. thats right, he has power over the executive branch and not the judicial or legislative. What gives if he had judicial or legislative power. Everyone knows he doesnt and if he did if wouldnt be a "democratic" country. its sad that a country is so divided by only about 3.5 million votes, which is not very much at all and so different in values, which is what decided this election for a large part, in my opinion

I followed your first paragraph, but I can't follow the writing on the second. How different in values we are is what decided the election?

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Originally posted by Nite-Mer I followed your first paragraph, but I can't follow the writing on the second. How different in values we are is what decided the election?

The difference is values between Bush and Kerry resides on the issues of Pro-Choice, vs ...not prochoice.

Bush is strongly against abortions and same sex marriage, and Bush is a hardcore Christian, which appeals to many rural communities.

When u look at the large metropolis (sp?) areas such as L.A, NY, Chicago, Miami, those cities have been favoring Kerry (DEM). Im assuming that rural areas are more value oriented and religious than city oriented people.

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pa...ults/president/

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Originally posted by jonSun

did you just make that up? and wheres hawaii?

and why the F is alberta, canada in red oh yeah, alberta's conservative.

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Originally posted by Dmatrox The difference is values between Bush and Kerry resides on the issues of Pro-Choice, vs ...not prochoice. Bush is strongly against abortions and same sex marriage, and Bush is a hardcore Christian, which appeals to many rural communities. When u look at the large metropolis (sp?) areas such as L.A, NY, Chicago, Miami, those cities have been favoring Kerry (DEM). Im assuming that rural areas are more value oriented and religious than city oriented people. http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pa...ults/president/

If you believe that's the only reason Bush won the election, you are out of your mind. Even in the metropolis's, Bush took votes. Denver for one, had more votes for Bush than Kerry. I don't know the exact census numbers, but I am willing to bet the metropolis's account for more people than the rural areas by a long shot.

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Originally posted by Nite-Mer If you believe that's the only reason Bush won the election, you are out of your mind. Even in the metropolis's, Bush took votes. Denver for one, had more votes for Bush than Kerry. I don't know the exact census numbers, but I am willing to bet the metropolis's account for more people than the rural areas by a long shot.

denver 70% kerry, 30% bush

http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pa....000.html#08031

*ahem*

I was only making a generaly observation of trends and the trends seem pretty accurate; however, they are still only trends.


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only 230 000 denver ppl came out to vote? hmmm, kinda thought more people would be voting.

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Originally posted by jonSun

too bad yall can't vote outside the US. after all, the world's opinion should sway that of the US.

Why don't you get your country's governments stabilized and your economy situated and your armies organized before you start yapping about ours? You obviously can't run our country if you're having trouble running your own

odd, that's about half of the population of the city. c'mon people vote to make your statement.

Est. population in July 2002: 560,415 (+1.0% change)

I already made many comments in PDD, but i want to add something here before its locked and moved to classic threads.

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Originally posted by Dmatrox denver 70% kerry, 30% bush http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2004/pa....000.html#08031 *ahem* I was only making a generaly observation of trends and the trends seem pretty accurate; however, they are still only trends. *edit* only 230 000 denver ppl came out to vote? hmmm, kinda thought more people would be voting.

That's Denver county. I am talking about the metro area. Most of the other big counties within Denver favored Bush (Arapahoe, Douglass, etc.) Denver proper isn't all that big, but most of the suburbs are generally accepted as part of Denver.

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Originally posted by Spacey Orange I already made many comments in PDD, but i want to add something here before its locked and moved to classic threads.

Now that's funny. I wonder how long it took for him to remove the covers? I bet someone handed them to him that way though.

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Originally posted by Nite-Mer That's Denver county. I am talking about the metro area. Most of the other big counties within Denver favored Bush (Arapahoe, Douglass, etc.) Denver proper isn't all that big, but most of the suburbs are generally accepted as part of Denver.

i dont really understand the the counties thing so i just assumed Denver county is Denver.

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Originally posted by Nite-Mer Now that's funny. I wonder how long it took for him to remove the covers? I bet someone handed them to him that way though.

I bet he didn't give a shit whether or not he could see through the binoculars and just took them to be gracious.

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Originally posted by UWM I bet he didn't give a shit whether or not he could see through the binoculars and just took them to be gracious.

Probably true. He probably gave them back and said, "yeah, I see it."

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Originally posted by Dirk W. too bad yall can't vote outside the US. after all, the world's opinion should sway that of the US. Why don't you get your country's governments stabilized and your economy situated and your armies organized before you start yapping about ours? You obviously can't run our country if you're having trouble running your own

what have YOU done for America?

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