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Ahh, the Tiesto Bash 'o' rama

He went from gold to crap, and that's all what I'm saying.

LOL these threads are always a fucking joke.

There is always some group of people who think its cool to hate the big DJ of the moment, be it Tiesto, Oakey, Armin, whoever.

And most of them cannot come up with any reason why they hate him other than 'he trainwrecks' or 'he plays cheese'.

Like you are always perfect at your job right? And if they are playing cheese, its cuz the 30,000 people there to see the guy want to hear the cheese.

Instead of being an ass and hating on the big name trance DJs, why not support them. After all, they are the most visible faces of the EDM scene.

Oh wait, I forgot. People don't want trance to become more popular because then they cannot feel cool and elitist for listening to it.

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Originally posted by XaNaX And most of them cannot come up with any reason why they hate him other than 'he trainwrecks' Like you are always perfect at your job right?

For fuck sake, how is that not enough of a reason when the DJ in question is supposedly the 'number 1' DJ in the world? Especially when there are many DJ's out there that do get it right nearly 100% of the time.

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Originally posted by XaNaX Bah. Maybe the guy doen't have the best technical mixing skills, but who cares. I'd take a DJ who trainwrecks a time or two, but can feel the crowd, select the right tracks, and create a mood over one who is technically brilliant but inept at track selection.

Point is, there are DJs out there who feel the crowd, select the right tracks, create a mood AND are technically far better.

Why are they below Tiesto on the list? Because they're not some marketing tool.

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Originally posted by basd Point is, there are DJs out there who feel the crowd, select the right tracks, create a mood AND are technically far better. Why are they below Tiesto on the list? Because they're not some marketing tool.

well then just listen /go see him/her then ? no one forced you to like tiesto.

TIESTO: why all the threads

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Originally posted by keddo well then just listen /go see him/her then ? no one forced you to like tiesto.

I was just pointing out the obvious. Nobody forces an opinion on me.

If it's of any interest to you, no, I will not go and see Tiesto.

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Originally posted by XaNaX So let me get this straight, if you are a DJ and you work hard and become popular and get name recognition, that is because you are a marketing tool and it is a reason for you to be hated? So if you are a DJ, the thing to do is to make sure you don't market yourself, because you don't want to become popular, famous, and rich. I'm sure Tiesto and Oakey and others like them really give a fuck what a couple dozen people on a messageboard think when they are playing to stadium sized crowds and making millions of dollars a year. If they sucked that bad, the crowds wouldn't come.

That's nowhere near what I was saying.

What I was saying is that there are DJs who I think are better than Tiesto both technically and crowd-pleasing-wise. The reason that they are not above Tiesto on the list (which is more like a popularity poll than a list based on quality anyway) is because Tiesto (and/or his agency) knows how to market himself well.

You can become quite popular without all that, there are various DJs in the Top 10 that have accomplished that, but the only reason why Tiesto makes top of that list again is because he markets himself well enough to get all the votes from people that are not that much involved in EDM.

I don't have anything against that, it's just an observation. Obviously the guy has talent, but if you're just going to look at technical skills and crowd-pleasing skills (by music, not by offering concerts to be watched live over your cell phone or anything like that) there are DJs that are better than him, at least in my opinion. And I'm sure there is quite a bunch of people here that share that view.

hey the fella who started this thread has a good point and fairplay to him for expressing his opinions. goodman yourself and Tiesto (unlike Oakenfold) is a very good DJ, i can say that cause i attended many gigs by him in the last 4 years, and because i HAVE Every single liveset/album EVER by him, and theay are all good

remember its always easier to criticise than say goods things........

This could go on endlessly...endlessly....endlessly and endlessly

Some like Tiesto and worship him, some don't like Tiesto and bash him....

I think it's much more convenient to keep these thoughts in our minds, and not devote entire threads to it, it always ends up in humongous flamewars.

Unbelievable what one little man from Breda can cause in people's minds....and on every EDM-related forum for that matter...

I have heard Tiesto a couple of times and don't personally care for his sound, I found his music lifeless. That being said, I do think It's the tall poppy syndrome to some extent. People become easy targets when they reach the top of their field.

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Originally posted by XaNaX Oh wait, I forgot. People don't want trance to become more popular because then they cannot feel cool and elitist for listening to it.

That, my friend, is exactley what is going on with these kids on this board....don't worry though they will grow out of it one day.

Whoever likes trance because it's not mainstream can eat shit and die.

OMG Tiesto suckz0rz!!!!11one

Hehe, potential huge thread this one, everyone has his opinion bout him...

My 2 cents: i dont have a problem with the fact that maybe he aint the best mixer out there and still is nr1 one 3 years in a row, the dj mag poll simply aint about mixing skills, mostly just loads of ppl voting for a popular dj.

Saw an interview with miss kittin yesterday in which she said that when she's spinning she's not doing it for the crowd but just for herself in the first place, doing what she enjoys, spinning the music she likes to hear.

Wouldnt dare to apply that to ti�sto he is indeed alot more mainstream but i dont mind that, al long as i love his g'damn music :d:d

My biggest complaint with Tiesto is that he isn't very friendly (at least when he was here in Boston). He wouldn't sign autographs after the show all he did was chill with his "posse" or whatever and would try to avoid all the fans that wanted to greet him afterwards. No other DJ has ever given me such a cold shoulder, since then, I've lost respect for Tiesto as a performer because he doesn't recognize the people that gave him the fame he has today.

I've read something about that in an interview with ti�sto. He sad that it can happens that hes like really tired and so on and like just want to go home or someting. He mentioned that he rarely does that and that hes always feeling sorry about it afterwards ...

Hey, i think its just normal that at some point u dont wanna see ur fans for a moment, no matter how cool we are

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Originally posted by The_G0dfather I've read something about that in an interview with ti�sto. He sad that it can happens that hes like really tired and so on and like just want to go home or someting. He mentioned that he rarely does that and that hes always feeling sorry about it afterwards ... Hey, i think its just normal that at some point u dont wanna see ur fans for a moment, no matter how cool we are

Yeah, but it's happened to me twice now with Tiesto

but at least if he cancelled the gig before, people could get refunds, not having to listen to a deejay that simply does not want to be there or put out his best effort or can't because he has hit a low. Go on vacation, that's my beef with Tiesto, the guy simply showed up to take the money and go away in 2002 (the place was fucking soldout for weeks and yet he put one of the worst displays I have ever seen and it showed how bad superstar deejays have become). If I see a deejay, I want him to actually be there or pretend such. I've thought it was all about the money then, so I gave up on Tiesto personally and I've been slated like hell for it. I want a deejay to want to be in Toronto, if I go to see him, he may not be feeling his best but at least he wants to be there, I think that adds to his performance.

with that being said, people will either hate or love him and probably few will be in between.

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Originally posted by torontotrance but at least if he cancelled the gig before, people could get refunds, not having to listen to a deejay that simply does not want to be there or put out his best effort or can't because he has hit a low. Go on vacation, that's my beef with Tiesto, the guy simply showed up to take the money and go away in 2002 (the place was fucking soldout for weeks and yet he put one of the worst displays I have ever seen and it showed how bad superstar deejays have become). If I see a deejay, I want him to actually be there or pretend such. I've thought it was all about the money then, so I gave up on Tiesto personally and I've been slated like hell for it. I want a deejay to want to be in Toronto, if I go to see him, he may not be feeling his best but at least he wants to be there, I think that adds to his performance. with that being said, people will either hate or love him and probably few will be in between.

You know damn well Hybrid won't do that shit on the 3rd

I really don't know what post to quote because every one of you tiesto fans post the same tired shite.

"oh you're only haters because you think its cool to dislike the popular artists".


Please give me a break. As soon as anyone expresses a negative opinion on dj tiesto you all go off on this rant about how he's number one and how we should just deal with it. he's an average dj backed by a massive publicity train that helped hugely to get him to where he is today.

I think some people on hear need to expand your horizons and stop getting caught up so much in tiesto the motion picture.

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Originally posted by chesco I really don't know what post to quote because every one of you tiesto fans post the same tired shite. "oh you're only haters because you think its cool to dislike the popular artists". Please give me a break. As soon as anyone expresses a negative opinion on dj tiesto you all go off on this rant about how he's number one and how we should just deal with it. he's an average dj backed by a massive publicity train that helped hugely to get him to where he is today. I think some people on hear need to expand your horizons and stop getting caught up so much in tiesto the motion picture.

naw it's true that ppl tend to put down popular things just because they're popular, just think about it. no one wants to be wearing what everyone else wears or like everything that everyone else likes because that's just boring. ppl strive to find the new and be different which is good. i've noticed that whenever any name becomes more popular, more ppl tend to bash them because to many, becoming popular is the sign of going commercial and selling out even though that might not be the case. once something is liked by the masses, u can no longer call it your own so you therefore you turn to shun it. this isn't true for every case obviously but it does happen.

you have to give tiesto credit for getting to the top spot in the first place three years ago, how he managed to keep that spot up to this year i'm not quite sure tho...

dear god.

note to myself: next time you see a tiesto/armin/pvd/oakie/is trance dead/what is cheese/etc thread, don't click on it.

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Originally posted by paranoik0 dear god. note to myself: next time you see a tiesto/armin/pvd/oakie/is trance dead/what is cheese/etc thread, don't click on it.

Agreed... What am I doing here?!

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Originally posted by torontotrance but at least if he cancelled the gig before, people could get refunds, not having to listen to a deejay that simply does not want to be there or put out his best effort or can't because he has hit a low. Go on vacation, that's my beef with Tiesto, the guy simply showed up to take the money and go away in 2002 (the place was fucking soldout for weeks and yet he put one of the worst displays I have ever seen and it showed how bad superstar deejays have become). If I see a deejay, I want him to actually be there or pretend such. I've thought it was all about the money then, so I gave up on Tiesto personally and I've been slated like hell for it. I want a deejay to want to be in Toronto, if I go to see him, he may not be feeling his best but at least he wants to be there, I think that adds to his performance. with that being said, people will either hate or love him and probably few will be in between.

My thoughts exactly.


I want Tiesto to refund me $40 for his bullshit show he did here in Chicago this summer. So I can than use the money to see DeepDish @ Soundbar on the 26th

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