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Posted by Plastick on Dec-20-2004 05:18:

What I find pathetic was that the thread starter could only come out with a lame explaination or rather an insult to 'McProgressive' as titled above in the first post and then later could not produce much in the discussion/debate.
Seriously, what's the purpose of this thread? Because thread starter dislike 'McProg'? So people who are on your side can have a good luahg? Or just out to 'taunt' the people who listens/worship/love 'McProgressive'?

First was the trend of edm being underground, unknown to the mass and disliking people calling trance as cheesy and techno...stuff like this. Then when edm got more popular among the mass, came the hate of the new change or gdjb/asot. What's next man? Jumping onto the hip-hop bandwagon because edm is getting popular?


quote:
Originally posted by Ory
Contribute? How? They're trying to make money by hammering the same old McProg recipe. How is that helping us find new and interesting music?


Man, ure insane.


Posted by memusa on Dec-20-2004 05:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Plastick
First was the trend of edm being underground, unknown to the mass and disliking people calling trance as cheesy and techno...stuff like this. Then when edm got more popular among the mass, came the hate of the new change or gdjb/asot. What's next man? Jumping onto the hip-hop bandwagon because edm is getting popular?



+1

What I find funny is that everybody here loves EDM. A lot of members want to become the next big thing either producing or DJing yet refuse to allow EDM to become a big thing.

I bet if Zabiela (which I really admire and like a lot) or any other not so mainstream DJ were to have a radio show like ASOT where he would have thousands of listeners and feature new songs every week, it wouldn't take more than a couple of months for him to be labelled as cheese.

Yet the ironic thing is if Markus were to feature anyone of TA's members song on his show or if Armin were to call you and say "come and do the XXL show with me this week", anyone here would be drooling and wishing it was them.

And for the record, I don't like every freaking show these two guys do. I like how they play live, yet am not a big fan of their radio shows. And even then, I'm not a diehard Markus and Armin fan. I just respect what they do and admire how they've helped the trance movement grow.


Posted by daydreamer on Dec-20-2004 06:00:

much respect for Cobalt, good points.
i wouldn't mind having discussions with you.
might learn something from you.

but in the end, for me at least. what is it with this incessant need you guys have to categorize everything? did you creat it, did you invent it....? no, i gather. so what, does it make you feel like such a big man, to label it?

you don't like it, fine. you say you want to help the scene, but your bitching and moaning, which you been doing for a while, obviously hasn't had any effect so why continue. instead of all this time spent on "my taste in music is better then yours" arguments you guys have weekly. go out an produce, come up with that "unique sound". give that much needed lift to the scene, and then reinvent yourself in a year or so, and have some criticize you for changing. stick to your guns and others will cry "rehashing the same sound over and over."


Posted by lexiconavenue on Dec-20-2004 06:09:

...nothing but whining. what markus and armin should do is start playing all the music you bashers enjoy...maybe this will cause you to be turned off from dance music all together and take your whiney asses elsewhere. every time i stop by these forums you guys are pissing and moaning about the same old thing. grow up! if you cant stand the music they play, then why in hell are you listening to it? you're listening to it because you hate it, and you tune in because you hate the dj? the angle is mind boggling. with the time you waste listening to these broadcasts, and then typing 3 and 4 paragraphs of complaints, you negatives could be doing something more constructive like producing tracks that you feel we SHOULD be listening to. you guys are so worried about the direction progressive dance is headed; do something about it then! take the time to shape it the way you think it should be heard. otherwise, dont post. you contribute absolutely nothing to edm except proving to the true edm lovers that you are just pathetic wankers who bandwagon, bash, etc etc..

leX


Posted by speedracer_mec on Dec-20-2004 06:10:

quote:
Originally posted by TigerClaw
Miami Progressive might be a good name, Better then the derogatory name that is McProg, Which I think sounds more like an insult rather then a genre name, Thats just a name that some stupid idiot came up.


Shiloh=Progressive

Ben Camp=American Progressive

Markus= McProg


End of thread


Posted by Dmatrox on Dec-20-2004 06:19:

Define "mcprog" with 7 or more tracks. im not clear what track u ppl think is 'mcprog' instead of falling under trance, or loosley progressive.


Posted by Floorfiller on Dec-20-2004 06:40:

what is the point of arguing this people? we've all said our parts...its not going to change the opinions of those that find the sound enjoyable. its just wasted breath...i know i'm done arguing about it.


Posted by Plastick on Dec-20-2004 07:05:

quote:
Originally posted by Floorfiller
what is the point of arguing this people? we've all said our parts...its not going to change the opinions of those that find the sound enjoyable. its just wasted breath...i know i'm done arguing about it.


U should have quoted dear speedracer_mec's post, few posts above ^.


Posted by tribu on Dec-20-2004 07:26:

I didn't think this thread would still be alive...


Posted by montana on Dec-20-2004 07:32:

quote:
Originally posted by ESMdjm600
where does the term mcprog derive from? i dont quite understand....


the deragatory term that was coined by pio aka yaletrance, a member of this board, he coined the term around late spring this year.


Posted by refuge on Dec-20-2004 09:30:

quote:
Originally posted by Streakfury
I hate harcore/hardstyle, so I don't listen to it. I think the people who make it should have their balls ripped off with a fishing hook, but I dont whine on the internet about it, I just dont listen to it.


Haha.

// ref


Posted by rooibos on Dec-20-2004 09:53:

Jeez, you guys should stfu.

All I've seen in this thread is people who want to know what they're talking about who probably have 20gb of GDJB sets, or McProg whores defending there favourite genre like its there sworn duty, or just plain idiots.


Posted by Ory on Dec-20-2004 10:04:

quote:
Originally posted by Cobalt
Sure.

Point being, that there is a general separation in the opinions of experienced listeners and newer listeners. That's very telling.


+1

Heck, I agree with almost everything you've said in this thread, you're just not as aggressive about it as I.

I really don't understand how someone who's listened to EDM for 10 years can enjoy GDJB/ASOT. Your taste in music ought to have evolved by now, but it's a lost cause trying to convert you now.

Bye.


Posted by NoisyNeil on Dec-20-2004 10:54:

quote:
Originally posted by Streakfury
Why is it that when something becomes popular it automatically becomes crap?? Just because Markus and his style of prog has become more popular over the last year or two, that doesn't make what he's playing rubbish. If you don't like it, dont listen to it, and stop whining.


exactly what I thought People like you think that you listen to special music, but by the time your genre becomes popular you're going to make a thread about that!
It's stupid because in your profile it says you're favourite producer is Ozgur, and he is bloody good! But he always sounds the same, just like Probspot....

It's simple too make a thread like this but it has no worth to anybody if you ask me! Ofcourse you can mention that you don't like Markus, Armin and Perry and the Armada-label but then don't be so childish to show your opinion like that.


quote:
Originally posted by rooibos
All I've seen in this thread is people who want to know what they're talking about who probably have 20gb of GDJB sets


Sad... but I think you're probably right


Posted by Camwin on Dec-20-2004 11:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Ory
+1

Heck, I agree with almost everything you've said in this thread, you're just not as aggressive about it as I.

I wouldn't say you're more aggressive, i would say you're more immature about it.


quote:

I really don't understand how someone who's listened to EDM for 10 years can enjoy GDJB/ASOT. Your taste in music ought to have evolved by now, but it's a lost cause trying to convert you now.


You just don't geddit.

1: Grow Up
2: You got opinions, just like everyone else. WTF makes you think the music you listen to is more 'superior'. You gonna try and convert a person that likes Rock into the stuff you like, and degrade them because you can't.
3: Grow up more, you're only like 16 and think your Mr It.

quote:
Bye.

Yeah, catcha!


Posted by noikeee on Dec-20-2004 13:22:

quote:
Originally posted by 3xx3r7
People can make their point in non-childish and mature way. Instead of saying "you mcproggers suck and your taste of music sucks harder than jenna jameson" (or whatever), state that you don't like it and respect the opinion of others. It does not apply to you Cobalt, since you lead an intelligent debate. I am talking about others in this horrid thread. Instead of arousing anger and futher hatred toward elitists, it may actually spawn an interest to what that person listens to.


Unfortunately, like in most arguments, there are plenty of idiots and irrational people in both sides. There's a guy with a very similar taste in music to mine, which has been posting in this thread, that is on my ignore list.


Posted by Plastick on Dec-20-2004 13:33:

Thumbs up

quote:
Originally posted by Camwin
I wouldn't say you're more aggressive, i would say you're more immature about it.




You just don't geddit.

1: Grow Up
2: You got opinions, just like everyone else. WTF makes you think the music you listen to is more 'superior'. You gonna try and convert a person that likes Rock into the stuff you like, and degrade them because you can't.
3: Grow up more, you're only like 16 and think your Mr It.


Yeah, catcha!


+1, too right


Posted by memusa on Dec-20-2004 16:11:

quote:
Originally posted by paranoik0
Unfortunately, like in most arguments, there are plenty of idiots and irrational people in both sides.


Which is exactly why on one hand, some cannot accept different people have different tastes of music, while on the other hand, some people defend the American progressive or mcprog genre like there's no tomorrow.


Posted by Durrrtysouth on Dec-20-2004 16:39:

American Prog?



Ozgur Can- Sweden
Perry Oneil- Holland
James Holden- UK
Armin- Holland
Markus- Germany


I think calling this progressive trance is the best label. This trend to me is very simialr to Rock, when progressive rock bands like Pink Floyd and Greatful Dead seperated themselves from the typical rock sounds with a more deeper less obvious journey. This to me is what has happened to trance with these producers.


Posted by 3xx3r7 on Dec-20-2004 16:45:

quote:
Originally posted by speedracer_mec
Shiloh=Progressive

Ben Camp=American Progressive

Markus= McProg


End of thread


You keep surprising me with your lack of intelligence day by day. First it is Polit forums, now it is Music discussion.


Posted by 3xx3r7 on Dec-20-2004 16:47:

quote:
Originally posted by Plastick
+1, too right


+1 of that +1.


Posted by ACID_Tnce on Dec-20-2004 16:48:

Markus- Germany ?


Posted by 3xx3r7 on Dec-20-2004 16:49:

quote:
Originally posted by rooibos
Jeez, you guys should stfu.

All I've seen in this thread is people who want to know what they're talking about who probably have 20gb of GDJB sets, or McProg whores defending there favourite genre like its there sworn duty, or just plain idiots.


Haven't you read the rest of this thread, especially a debate between Cobalt and I? You accuse others that they don't know what they talk about, meanwhile, you barely make any sense here.

And no, I don't have 20 GB of GDJB sets.


Posted by 3xx3r7 on Dec-20-2004 16:51:

quote:
Originally posted by ACID_Tnce
Markus- Germany ?


I was about to say the same thing. If you want to debate at least know your sources well, lol.


Posted by ACID_Tnce on Dec-20-2004 16:56:

why dont we all blame the internet. Its the internet fault we do this right now . Its the internet fault we listen to gdjb and asot . Its the internet that made armin and markus popular . Like Mauro Picotto said once . Its all bout GOOD MUSIC and BAD MUSIC . Not Progressive/trance/techno/house/brakes/ambients etc etc etc


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