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Posted by Exodus17 on Feb-17-2005 18:48:

i stopped at 5times

first few were a blast


-Quotes from the first Roll -

Me in the middle of the living room -"I want to be buried in people!" lol keep getting reminded of it

From laying down on the floor to standing up really quik - "HOLY SHIT! WALKING FEELS COOL!"


^ pathetic.. but hey.. it was a first roll and we all know how those are...fun times...

the last one sucked though - the roll was fine but my GF at the time ignored me throughout the night and flirted with my best bro a bit too much...damn asian skank


last time i held a tab was in a club - some guy lost it, i found it, i waws actually nice enough to hunt the guy down and give it back - he gave me 3bucks(wooptydoo) for my kindness - it was then i realized just how shitty drugs can make ppl

so im done with MDMA however its still nice to eat a few shrooms every now and then or take a hit of LSD


Posted by Krypton on Feb-18-2005 00:01:

quote:
Originally posted by Mr. Pink
yep
i know how it is


my 1st time:

Dj Tiesto- in a waterpark in Aguadilla, Puerto Rico

chicks in bikinis, me in a bathing suit and sandals, and yeah- good times


i love aguadilla. were u at Crashboat Beach?? there are some damn fine chicks there.


Posted by Krypton on Feb-18-2005 00:10:

quote:
Originally posted by Exodus17
i stopped at 5times

first few were a blast


-Quotes from the first Roll -

Me in the middle of the living room -"I want to be buried in people!" lol keep getting reminded of it

From laying down on the floor to standing up really quik - "HOLY SHIT! WALKING FEELS COOL!"


^ pathetic.. but hey.. it was a first roll and we all know how those are...fun times...

the last one sucked though - the roll was fine but my GF at the time ignored me throughout the night and flirted with my best bro a bit too much...damn asian skank


last time i held a tab was in a club - some guy lost it, i found it, i waws actually nice enough to hunt the guy down and give it back - he gave me 3bucks(wooptydoo) for my kindness - it was then i realized just how shitty drugs can make ppl

so im done with MDMA however its still nice to eat a few shrooms every now and then or take a hit of LSD


my best quote people told me i said, was, "Yo rubbing your head against the wall is sooo awesome.."

and everytime i drink or somethin, i always have this two-sided personality. the let-loose one, and the im fine, im sober. very usefull if there is a police situation or something. so did this..

"Yo katie, check it out. i snap my fingers *snap snap*. and BOOM im sober. (i try to make a straight face and talk normal but...) "
"nate, your fuked up. look at chu, your eyes are rolling in the back of your head, and u have a HUGE smile on your face. go to the bathroom and look how humungous your pupils are."

oh and, "KATIE, dont move.."
"why?"
"let me touch your hoodie."
"uhh, its alright, i know its your first time."
"okcoolthanks."


Posted by jonSun on Feb-18-2005 00:12:

WHITE MERCEDES. If you get a chance to come across them, get extra. The best ive had. After I tested them, I came to find that it was mdma, speed & 2cb. MDMA for the great feeling, meth to make me dance all night. I didnt feel the 2cb until me & my girlfriend at the time were trying to sleep at 12 noon the next day & we were both seeing the same fucked up shadows on the cieling. totally great.


Posted by Krypton on Feb-18-2005 00:22:

quote:
Originally posted by jonSun
WHITE MERCEDES. If you get a chance to come across them, get extra. The best ive had. After I tested them, I came to find that it was mdma, speed & 2cb. MDMA for the great feeling, meth to make me dance all night. I didnt feel the 2cb until me & my girlfriend at the time were trying to sleep at 12 noon the next day & we were both seeing the same fucked up shadows on the cieling. totally great.


awesome


Posted by Absolut_Vodka on Feb-18-2005 16:48:

actually I hate speed in my pills. Makes you have killer comedowns


Posted by eulerfx on Feb-18-2005 17:27:

quote:
Originally posted by Ste
enjoy it while it lasts, after a 3 or 4 years the effects will get shit and you will have to ditch them because they wont be worth it!


There are two possible reasons for tolerance:

1. You used up all your serotonin and norepinephrine, and it takes time to rebuild. This is essentially reversible.

2. There is damage to serotonin receptor's in your brain caused by free radicals - result of to much serotoning being metabolized and too much serotoning in the synapse, in general.

You can cope with 1 by preloading a couple of days before the session with 100 mg daily of 5-HTP, and the days after as well. Though do not take less then 4 hours before MDMA. In general eat a healthy diet, especially with foods that contain 5-HTP (tryptophan) like cheese, milk, turkey, etc.

You can cope with 2 by preloading and postloading with antioxidants such as Vitamin C, Vitamin E, Vitamind B-6. In the least case take around 2-3 grams of Vitamin C, but vitamins usually work better in concert.

In addition, Coenzyme Q10 works nicely as well. Take it before MDMA so as to keep circulation nice and smooth in your body. Also Gingko bilboa herbs do wonders.

Then, instead of swallowing the pill, let it dissolve under your tongue. This way, more of the MDMA will make it to your brain.

All of these things haven't really been medically proven, though there are studies, the people that I know suggest they work quite nicely to virtually eliminate tolerance, granted of course that you do not do it more then once per week.


Posted by eulerfx on Feb-18-2005 17:32:

quote:
Originally posted by Absolut_Vodka
actually I hate speed in my pills. Makes you have killer comedowns


+1

Speed is something I would never do.

On another note, 2C-B which in itself is somewhere between MDMA and LSD, is said to combine quite nicely with MDMA, especially in extending the MDMA session. One drawback about it is that its really rare and some people don't really like it at all.

It was actually marketed as Nexus in Germany as a sex drug. Supposedly it makes sex wonderful - as oppesed to pure MDMA, which most people report to have opposing effects to reaching orgasm. Of course, it became abused, actually mostly in the USA.


Posted by Absolut_Vodka on Feb-18-2005 17:34:

Interesting. Why should you not take 5-HTP four hours prior to popping?


Posted by eulerfx on Feb-18-2005 17:37:

quote:
Originally posted by Absolut_Vodka
Interesting. Why should you know take 5-HTP four hours prior to popping?



Its the direct precursor to serotonin in your brain. It only makes sense that it should help you replenish supplies of it. Though again this is not confirmed in human studies, I've only heard of monkeys in rats, but I can't imagine this process from being too different in people.

The reason not to take it less then 4 hours before is probably because it will put stress on your brain as its trying to make serotonin and all that MDMA activity at the same time, but who knows...its just some people reported adverse effects.


Posted by kr00t0n on Feb-19-2005 14:55:

quote:
Originally posted by eulerfx
Its the direct precursor to serotonin in your brain. It only makes sense that it should help you replenish supplies of it. Though again this is not confirmed in human studies, I've only heard of monkeys in rats, but I can't imagine this process from being too different in people.

The reason not to take it less then 4 hours before is probably because it will put stress on your brain as its trying to make serotonin and all that MDMA activity at the same time, but who knows...its just some people reported adverse effects.


The real reason, and I can say this from firsthand experience, is that once your body starts to process the 5htp, it has an inhibiting affect on your neural transmittors that get a kick start when you do pills, and this results in you getting no where near as mullered as you would probably like.

Your best bet to do it 24 hours away from your next party, prefs just before you go to bed


Posted by DOOMBOT on Feb-19-2005 16:14:

All I can say is be careful when taking it. I mean, it is fun to let your body go and feel the drug as much as possible but before taking it remind yourself what you are getting into and that you need to still be careful and cautious in what you are doing. First time for me was just this past NYE at IKON when I saw PvD and Obir. I almost, well... slipped. One minute I was dancing having a great time and the next I was sitting in the corner thinking at any momen it was all over.

I can't stress enough how important water is AND taking breaks from dancing or whatever activity it is you are doing. I think that is one thing that is the most highly over rated. Everyone can tell you to drink water but its no good if you are still keeping your body temp way up by dancing non-stop. My friend and I must have went though about 3 bottles of water in an hour which should have been plenty but I danced non-stop for a few and thats when dehydration and panick set in. I didnt realise how huge of a mind fuck this drug really is. If you are in a happy mood it intensifies it x10000 but if your mood is opposite then expect the same results. I dehydrated, which I do sometimes and kinda freak but freaking out while on E just makes it a whole different ball game. Luckily while in the corner some random guy saw me in my current condition and gave me his bottle of water that he just bought for $5. Then my friend found me and was just yelling at me "Its in your head! Dont let it get to you! Its in your head just go back out there and listen to the music!" 2 minutes later I was right back where I began. Dancing and enjoying the scene.

Just be careful. It is a fun time, maybe the best time you will ever have BUT it has its limits.


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