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Posted by vtec junkie on Mar-10-2005 22:02:

quote:
Originally posted by NiteMer
In all fairness, since you posted hypocrisy later than this, it's a little hypocritical to be mad at people for posting negative things about Tiesto all the time. The reason why it's hypocritical is because you guys post all these gratuitous "Tiesto is the best" threads. It's the same exact thing, but on opposite spectrums. Surely, if someone posted a "Tiesto sucks donkey dick" thread, you would be in there telling that person that they're being lame. I try not to ride either extreme, but think about it. I am not a big Tiesto fan anymore, mainly because my ear became finely tuned when I became a dj and his mixing really does bother me, in addition to his track selection having diminished, IMO. I don't post Sander, Hernan, Max G, Armin, Sasha, or Digweed threads to name a few of my favorites. I especially wouldn't if there were six threads a day about the guys. It gets old to see everyone riding the Tiesto train, with such a zeal. I understand, if he's your favorite, but as long as those who disagree are reasonable and respectful, you should do the same.



Did I start this thread...no. But it was made for shits and giggles anyways. Im sorry dude but im not riding anybodys cock train. This argument will never end. I could personally give two shits if people think Tiesto sucks....but to hammer the bull shit comments day in day out is annoying.


Posted by rounder19 on Mar-10-2005 22:02:

you clowns need to "stop hating and start particapating"

Again, Tiesto is so much better than everyone else


Posted by Mattivi on Mar-10-2005 22:29:

quote:
Originally posted by vtec junkie
Did I start this thread...no. But it was made for shits and giggles anyways. Im sorry dude but im not riding anybodys cock train. This argument will never end. I could personally give two shits if people think Tiesto sucks....but to hammer the bull shit comments day in day out is annoying.



agreed 100000%.... people its not that i dont agree with some of the points being made, his mixing could use some help...but do you guys incessnatly have to bring that up a million times a friggin day?! you know what gets old, people hating on tiesto with 'such zeal'..for real there is far more hating on tiesto than there is support on TA, EXPONENTIALLY MORE HATING, actually the few of us who do support him think of ourselves as somewhat of a sub-cult of sorts. nitemer, no offense, but open your eyes. this thread was made in jest, and in response to all the vigorous contempt against tiesto, from drdave a mondern day satirist. do you read his post? pure brilliant satire, he wasnt really being serious, even tho he loves tijs..and the hypocrisy is that other djs like sander, pvd, armin are afforded and adorned heeps of more love than tijs has ever enjoyed on ta, and never get hated on.. like i said its only a few "zealots' like myself, vtec, rounder, rach, drdave, who always love and support him, and cant understand why people have to always make stupid immature PLAYED OUT comments like "he needs to take mixing 101". we are sick of it, and IT IS LAME!!! its not that its not true but its been said and repeated A MILLION FUCKIN TIMES. WHEN DOES IT STOP???????? and if someone did post a thread called "tiesto sucks donkey dick" they really are a sad and a categorically LAME human being. honestly i think alot of you from the looks of your musical taste need to take your mousepads over to PROGADDICT.COM, because trance obviously doesnt rock your boat anymore!!!! im not trying to fan the flames of this thread, but you know me i have to get in my two cents, haha.. its all love guys, but like Pete K said, music is subjective, short but poignant


Posted by NiteMer on Mar-10-2005 22:29:

quote:
Originally posted by vtec junkie
Did I start this thread...no. But it was made for shits and giggles anyways. Im sorry dude but im not riding anybodys cock train. This argument will never end. I could personally give two shits if people think Tiesto sucks....but to hammer the bull shit comments day in day out is annoying.


I didn't say "cock train". Again, I don't like to get all extreme. I understand what you're saying. I just think that sometimes you guys lash out and it's equally hypocritical. Not even trying to argue. It's not really a big deal.


Posted by Mattivi on Mar-10-2005 22:39:

quote:
Originally posted by NiteMer
I didn't say "cock train". Again, I don't like to get all extreme. I understand what you're saying. I just think that sometimes you guys lash out and it's equally hypocritical. Not even trying to argue. It's not really a big deal.


great...now back to who's the biggest coke head dj on the scence?!!


Posted by vtec junkie on Mar-10-2005 22:40:

quote:
Originally posted by Mattivi
great...now back to who's the biggest coke head dj on the scence?!!



In gonna check out that set in your sig when I get home!!


Posted by kelly923 on Mar-10-2005 22:41:

would someone please make this thread disappear...


Posted by NiteMer on Mar-10-2005 22:42:

quote:
Originally posted by Mattivi
agreed 100000%.... people its not that i dont agree with some of the points being made, his mixing could use some help...but do you guys incessnatly have to bring that up a million times a friggin day?! you know what gets old, people hating on tiesto with 'such zeal'..for real there is far more hating on tiesto than there is support on TA, EXPONENTIALLY MORE HATING, actually the few of us who do support him think of ourselves as somewhat of a sub-cult of sorts. nitemer, no offense, but open your eyes. this thread was made in jest, and in response to all the vigorous contempt against tiesto, from drdave a mondern day satirist. do you read his post? pure brilliant satire, he wasnt really being serious, even tho he loves tijs..and the hypocrisy is that other djs like sander, pvd, armin are afforded and adorned heeps of more love than tijs has ever enjoyed on ta, and never get hated on.. like i said its only a few "zealots' like myself, vtec, rounder, rach, drdave, who always love and support him, and cant understand why people have to always make stupid immature PLAYED OUT comments like "he needs to take mixing 101". we are sick of it, and IT IS LAME!!! its not that its not true but its been said and repeated A MILLION FUCKIN TIMES. WHEN DOES IT STOP???????? and if someone did post a thread called "tiesto sucks donkey dick" they really are a sad and a categorically LAME human being. honestly i think alot of you from the looks of your musical taste need to take your mousepads over to PROGADDICT.COM, because trance obviously doesnt rock your boat anymore!!!! im not trying to fan the flames of this thread, but you know me i have to get in my two cents, haha.. its all love guys, but like Pete K said, music is subjective, short but poignant


You and I argue semantics a lot. I didn't say that DrDave wasn't joking when he made this thread. All I did was point out that it's hypocritical to overly praise a guy and diss on those continually arguing the other point. I agree that some of the little jabs that people make are uncalled for and a bit immature, but you don't really see me posting, "Tiesto needs mixing 101", although I kind of agree with the comment. I would never post "tiesto sucks donkey dick" either. I was trying to make a point. In addition, I still love trance, and buy trance records from time to time. I just think the production quality in trance has gone downhill and Tiesto's style has gone away from what I loved about him. BTW - I hear plenty of people hate on Armin/ASOT on TA, possibly as much as Tiesto hating. Armin is exponentially better as a dj, IMO, certainly technically from an objective viewpoint. I guess I shouldn't have made the post, because it may have come off as derogatory, but some of you guys get really heated and attack others a bit. I felt the need to try to balance things out. Anyway, nuff said, maybe this debate will die down, but I doubt it.


Posted by NiteMer on Mar-10-2005 22:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Mattivi
great...now back to who's the biggest coke head dj on the scence?!!


Again. It's Oakie or Sandra Collins, hands down. I guess Sandra got clean, supposedly, but the Perfecto crew seems to run in full force.


Posted by bobba lou on Mar-10-2005 22:45:

Dancing Dude

planet funk - the switch (sunset strippers club mix)

TUNE ALERT!!!!!


Posted by Mattivi on Mar-10-2005 22:49:

the arguemnet will never end. armin may mix better, but ive seen him live a few times he plays too many anthems, too much fluff, and formulaic garbage, and the energy is quite there for me, and like someone said earlier there is more to being a dj than just mixing. but im going to armada nite at spin, maybe that venue might change my mind...i love his asot of trance show tho, very well produced... anyways im not going to fan the flames anymore, you feel the way you do i feel the way i do, i respect you from a standpoint that you dont make wanker one liners, but clearly and intelligently stake your opinions, its apperciated


Posted by Mattivi on Mar-10-2005 22:51:

quote:
Originally posted by bobba lou
planet funk - the switch (sunset strippers club mix)

TUNE ALERT!!!!!


wrong thead, alright tune


Posted by DarkAngel on Mar-10-2005 22:55:

Sad

quote:
Originally posted by Mattivi
agreed 100000%.... people its not that i dont agree with some of the points being made, his mixing could use some help...but do you guys incessnatly have to bring that up a million times a friggin day?! you know what gets old, people hating on tiesto with 'such zeal'..for real there is far more hating on tiesto than there is support on TA, EXPONENTIALLY MORE HATING, actually the few of us who do support him think of ourselves as somewhat of a sub-cult of sorts. nitemer, no offense, but open your eyes. this thread was made in jest, and in response to all the vigorous contempt against tiesto, from drdave a mondern day satirist. do you read his post? pure brilliant satire, he wasnt really being serious, even tho he loves tijs..and the hypocrisy is that other djs like sander, pvd, armin are afforded and adorned heeps of more love than tijs has ever enjoyed on ta, and never get hated on.. like i said its only a few "zealots' like myself, vtec, rounder, rach, drdave, who always love and support him, and cant understand why people have to always make stupid immature PLAYED OUT comments like "he needs to take mixing 101". we are sick of it, and IT IS LAME!!! its not that its not true but its been said and repeated A MILLION FUCKIN TIMES. WHEN DOES IT STOP???????? and if someone did post a thread called "tiesto sucks donkey dick" they really are a sad and a categorically LAME human being. honestly i think alot of you from the looks of your musical taste need to take your mousepads over to PROGADDICT.COM, because trance obviously doesnt rock your boat anymore!!!! im not trying to fan the flames of this thread, but you know me i have to get in my two cents, haha.. its all love guys, but like Pete K said, music is subjective, short but poignant


THAT is the greatest thing you have EVER said, Neil.

Drinks for Neil!!!!


Anyway, DJ bashing gets old, and really fuckin' quick. Enough of the shit. Let it go.


Posted by NiteMer on Mar-10-2005 22:57:

quote:
Originally posted by Mattivi
the arguemnet will never end. armin may mix better, but ive seen him live a few times he plays too many anthems, too much fluff, and formulaic garbage, and the energy is quite there for me, and like someone said earlier there is more to being a dj than just mixing. but im going to armada nite at spin, maybe that venue might change my mind...i love his asot of trance show tho, very well produced... anyways im not going to fan the flames anymore, you feel the way you do i feel the way i do, i respect you from a standpoint that you dont make wanker one liners, but clearly and intelligently stake your opinions, its apperciated


Yeah, I hear you. I prefer Armin when he mixes some techy stuff and some more epic stuff, with a few anthems in between. Last time he played the Church it was a little too much with the anthems. I understand both perspectives, but a lot of Tiesto heads would have responded differently than you, flaming me for liking Armin. I appreciate that we can have discussions as adults and not jump on the flame train.


Posted by Pete K on Mar-10-2005 22:59:

quote:
Originally posted by DarkAngel
THAT is the greatest thing you have EVER said, Neil.

Drinks for Neil!!!!


Anyway, DJ bashing gets old, and really fuckin' quick. Enough of the shit. Let it go.



You should take your own advice. DJ bashing and genre bashing are both lame.


Posted by DarkAngel on Mar-10-2005 23:01:

Behold, my arse.

quote:
Originally posted by Pete K
You should take your own advice. DJ bashing and genre bashing are both lame.



DJ bashing, yeah.

Now the genre bashing, hell, that will stop when I die.

Then read the sig.

I will NEVER die.




Posted by NiteMer on Mar-10-2005 23:04:

quote:
Originally posted by DarkAngel
DJ bashing, yeah.

Now the genre bashing, hell, that will stop when I die.

Then read the sig.

I will NEVER die.





Well, I know who not to give one of my proggier cds to at the TA dinner.


Posted by Scottaculous on Mar-10-2005 23:06:

quote:
Originally posted by NiteMer
Well, I know who not to give one of my proggier cds to at the TA dinner.


Give one to me!


Posted by DarkAngel on Mar-10-2005 23:12:

quote:
Originally posted by NiteMer
Well, I know who not to give one of my proggier cds to at the TA dinner.



Phew! Yeah, that'd be a waste. I'd use it as a coaster.




Posted by NiteMer on Mar-10-2005 23:16:

quote:
Originally posted by Scottaculous
Give one to me!


No doubt. I actually think I'm gonna start housy, build through prog, into some proggy trance and some techno for my WMC cd.

If I make a newer trance disk, in the meantime, I'll hook DA up.


Posted by DarkAngel on Mar-10-2005 23:17:

quote:
Originally posted by NiteMer
If I make a newer trance disk, in the meantime, I'll hook DA up.




Posted by NiteMer on Mar-10-2005 23:20:

quote:
Originally posted by DarkAngel


Worst case, I'll burn you one of my older ones, for shits and giggles. I've got some great trance cds from 2003 you might like.


Posted by DarkAngel on Mar-10-2005 23:22:

Thumbs up

quote:
Originally posted by NiteMer
Worst case, I'll burn you one of my older ones, for shits and giggles. I've got some great trance cds from 2003 you might like.



Word. If it's trance, I'm game.


Posted by UFpike on Mar-11-2005 02:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Mattivi
great...now back to who's the biggest coke head dj on the scence?!!



Thats easy, Sandra Collins. Ever been with her in a DJ Booth???


Posted by DarkAngel on Mar-11-2005 02:15:

Behold, my arse.

quote:
Originally posted by UFpike
Thats easy, Sandra Collins. Ever been with her in a DJ Booth???



I have. Gives blowjobs almost as bad as she spins.


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