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Posted by RickyM on Mar-11-2005 00:56:

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Originally posted by tribu
Maybe he has watched you masturbate

That went down like a fart in a wetsuit....

Posted by tribu on Mar-11-2005 00:58:

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Originally posted by RickyM

That went down like a fart in a wetsuit....

Why would a fart go down? Wouldn't it rise, stay in the same place, or escape into the surrounding atmosphere of said wet suit wearer?

Posted by DannyO on Mar-11-2005 01:00:

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Originally posted by DannyO
Yea I gotta admit, I like the way this thread is turning out

Well so much for that, I say lock this thread now.

Posted by Fundamental on Mar-11-2005 01:05:

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Originally posted by DannyO
Well so much for that, I say lock this thread now.

Finally something I agree with!

It's not as if there can be any reasonable discussion in this thread without difference of opinion and therefore flaming.

Posted by RickyM on Mar-11-2005 01:22:

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Originally posted by tribu
Why would a fart go down? Wouldn't it rise, stay in the same place, or escape into the surrounding atmosphere of said wet suit wearer?

how would it rise?
it would go down your leg due to the wetsuit...believe me i know these things

Posted by Geoff on Mar-11-2005 01:38:

I love Ferry, can't wait to see him live. Seems like he would totally own live.

Posted by Blue Balls on Mar-11-2005 01:50:

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Originally posted by BrownTA4Life
TRANCE IS NOT DEAD YOU DUMB FUCK. YOUR A FUCKIN DUMBASS. IF TRANCE IS DEAD WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU STILL HERE YOU FUCKING STUPID PERSON

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when you can formulate a cohesive argument I might respond back.

Posted by r5a on Mar-11-2005 01:56:

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Originally posted by sandstorm03
take this crap somewhere else
This whole thread is shit.

Agreed with this post.

Posted by tribu on Mar-11-2005 02:08:

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Originally posted by RickyM
how would it rise?
it would go down your leg due to the wetsuit...believe me i know these things

I know a bit too, and I just dont see why it would move down. Maybe pressure, but if the suit is skin tight, I think the escaping gas would either form a layer between you and the suit or escape through the suit. Im almost certain flatulant byproducts are lighter than air, which would make them rise?

Posted by Minhaj on Mar-11-2005 02:12:

i emailed wicked neo and asked him to close this thread

Posted by Blue Balls on Mar-11-2005 02:26:

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Originally posted by BrownTA4Life
i emailed wicked neo and asked him to close this thread

With comments like these :

quote:
Originally posted by BrownTA4Life
Originally posted by BrownTA4Life
TRANCE IS NOT DEAD YOU DUMB FUCK. YOUR A FUCKIN DUMBASS. IF TRANCE IS DEAD WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU STILL HERE YOU FUCKING STUPID PERSON

No shit the thread has gone to hell.

Posted by SYSTEM-J on Mar-11-2005 14:29:

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Originally posted by Ory
How clever. A man and his opinion killed the most popular genre of EDM, a dutch superstar trance fag didn't. That makes sense.

Trance isn't the most popular style of EDM, and it hasn't been for many years. In fact, Ferry Corsten is entirely responsible for making it, very briefly, the most popular style of EDM.

Posted by Alexan on Mar-11-2005 14:33:

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Trance isn't the most popular style of EDM, and it hasn't been for many years. In fact, Ferry Corsten is entirely responsible for making it, very briefly, the most popular style of EDM.

right on!

Posted by Ory on Mar-11-2005 14:48:

Posted by RickyM on Mar-11-2005 14:50:

How does popular = killing it?

Posted by Sand Leaper on Mar-11-2005 14:58:

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Originally posted by RickyM
How does popular = killing it?

Because in this case making a genre popular means watering it down and simplifying it for mass appeal.

Posted by Project 7 on Mar-11-2005 14:58:

Posted by Alexan on Mar-11-2005 14:59:

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Originally posted by Ory
Thus killing it.

and he would've gotten away with it too if it wasn't for you meddling kids!

Posted by Ory on Mar-11-2005 15:04:

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Originally posted by Alexan
and he would've gotten away with it too if it wasn't for you meddling kids!

Posted by Alexan on Mar-11-2005 15:13:

I feel like a scoobie snack now

Posted by nwopper on Mar-11-2005 15:21:

Wasn't this locked?

Posted by klappa on Mar-11-2005 15:27:

why really blame paul oakenfold for all this go and listen to his goa mix, tranceport, global underground mixes and blablabla and maybe that's changes your mind?

Posted by SYSTEM-J on Mar-11-2005 15:29:

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Originally posted by Sand Leaper
Because in this case making a genre popular means watering it down and simplifying it for mass appeal.

Simplifying it? How is modern trance any simpler than classic trance? Classic trance is very simplistic and repetitive. Epic trance actually has more musical merit than classic trance. For all the talk of pop melodies and pop elements (as if breakdowns are pop), everyone fails to realise that this actually could be a good thing. Classic trance is unrefined, rough and in a lot of cases very weak music. It may have cut the mustard in 1992, but thirteen years and countless musical and technological developments since, it sounds very dated. Some of it still works, some doesn't.

It's ridiculous to assume that all breakdowns are bad, all melodies are pop and that all classic trance was good. A lot of it was absolute shite, just as a lot of modern trance is.

Anyone who thinks that melodies are bad things is obviously a very boring sod indeed. Not all epic trance melodies are massive, not all of them are pop and some of them are very subtle indeed. Ishkur's argument that it demeans the real meaning of trance is partially acceptable (although the progressive scene still maintains traditional trance values, so why not just ignore epic trance if you don't like anthems?), but anyone who wasn't listening to trance pre 97 or who has ever enjoyed epic trance is just being an elitist prick if they try to pass that argument off.

Posted by Alexan on Mar-11-2005 15:33:

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Originally posted by dj christian
why really blame paul oakenfold for all this go and listen to his goa mix, tranceport, global underground mixes and blablabla and maybe that's changes your mind?

who was blaming paul oakenfold?

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Define "killed". If Ferry Corsten killed trance by changing it's sound, then Oliver Lieb killed it, Paul van Dyk killed it and Robert Miles also killed it. Not to mention Oakenfold killing it. Ishkur can't accept that a genre has evolved, merely because he dislikes what it has become.

Ah I see now sorry

Posted by Sand Leaper on Mar-11-2005 15:45:

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Originally posted by SYSTEM-J
Simplifying it? How is modern trance any simpler than classic trance? Classic trance is very simplistic and repetitive. Epic trance actually has more musical merit than classic trance.

Simplifying it was perhaps a narrow choice of term. What I meant was that producers took out the most immediate and instantly recognizable elements and exaggerated them more and more in order to make it appeal to a wider audience. A good example of this is when I played Eternal Basement - Taking Place In You to some people who were really into trance of today's standard. The ominous, brooding atmosphere and the absence of catchy riffs and hooks wasn't something they managed to connect to at once and they immediately wrote it off, whereas soon as a Tiesto set from 2 years ago crammed full with epic trance of today came in it was instantly praised.

The rest of your post I agree with pretty much. Saying Ferry killed trance is a bit off, but his blueprint of the epic trance formula certainly didn't do trance a favor.

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