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I was just giving you shit, mate.

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Originally posted by UWM I was just giving you shit, mate.

Yes, well... ...screw you.

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Originally posted by Aiwendil they're as stupid as you are since you don't know the answer, let me explain it to you. heaven is epic trance. ferry corsten makes epic dutch trance. in fact almost every one of ferry corsten's epic trance tracks are exactly the same: intro(repetitive arpeggiated bassline + repetitive treble chord and/or arpeggiated pads) breakdown(a string or two for 90 seconds, then really loud and obnoxious lead supersaw melody) body(really loud and obnoxious lead supersaw melody + note changing bassline) he might add some extra stabbing treble chords or pads at places in the track to pretend that he's being more complicated than what he really is. dj sammy - heaven (extended mix) intro(repetitive arpeggiated bassline + repetitive treble chord and/or arpeggiated pads) breakdown(a string or two for 30 seconds, then really loud and obnoxious lead supersaw melody) body(really loud and obnoxious lead supersaw melody + note changing bassline) they're the same kind of music, buddy. that is what epic trance is, that is what heaven is, and that is why they are the same musically. the only major difference is that heaven is more popular. the only slight differences are than some of ferry's tracks are better than heaven and some aren't.

Hello Radagast!

I know it is you because Radagast's name in elvish is 'Aiwendil'. Busted

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Originally posted by Aiwendil yeah...aiwendil means radagast in elvish...i see you read the popular Tolkien novels. i'm busted?

Yes. I found you out



Fair play to you for picking the name though - now can you name the other 2 wizards apart from Gandalf, Radagast and Saruman?

hmmmm let me see...........

Why did Gandalf initially not want to go to Middle Earth to contest Sauron....

Not that tough actually...

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Originally posted by Aiwendil because he was afraid of sauron? lol you know, he didn't think he was strong enough to contest him.

yeah he was feared lol
RIght hit me with a question.

this topic went right over my head

Here's a question; Why is Liv Tyler so fucking hot?

BWAHAHA this thread just got hella side-tracked.

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Originally posted by Aiwendil the death of fingolfin marked the end of what?

the end of his life??

Sorry I don't know this one

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Originally posted by RickyM Hello Radagast! I know it is you because Radagast's name in elvish is 'Aiwendil'. Busted

hahaha, I knew one of em had to be an alias

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Originally posted by kr00t0n hahaha, I knew one of em had to be an alias

One of them?

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Originally posted by auranaut Here's a question; Why is Liv Tyler so fucking hot?

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Originally posted by n0bben liv tyler is overrated cheese.

Liv Tyler = sophisticated beauty. Maybe too progressive for you?

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Originally posted by auranaut Liv Tyler = sophisticated beauty. Maybe too progressive for you?

alba = techno > your UNsophisticated beauty. cause shes just slammin

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Originally posted by n0bben yeah alba is nice. holly valance beats em all though, so i suppose she's golden age hiphop

yea shes up there with alba

is that really radagast?

I was wondering what happened to him, why the name change? These people switching names sure does get confusing, I like mine alot so I'm not gonna change it unless I embarass the hell out of myself, which does tend to happen from time to time.

If you are really radagast, can you put those weekly tune recomendations into your sig again?(I hope they will be easier to find than the others though)

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Well after skimming through the posts since page three, I still haven't seen any convincing arguments as to why epic trance of today is different from the stuff DJ Sammy or Lasgo or Milk Inc, etc... produces.

yikes, there is just no convincing somebody who doesnt alredy believe I guess, Its almost not worth arguing over.

Why do we need to convince anybody else that epic trance today is different from sammy or lasgo? The only reason I could think of for doing this is just to prevent kids from trying to play that shit in a set when we don't wanna hear it. I mean, alot of todays epic trance is cheesy poppy shit, like satelite, or jump the next train, or whatever, this stuff is hard to argue as different from pop music.

But there is more to epic trance than the cheesy pop variety that is so huge right now, I mean, we still have stuff like signum and PvD and others who aren't playing those pop trance tunes. Sure, the tunes those dudes play are more pop-like than the ones of the previous generation but are they as pop-like as sammy? I dont think this is something that can be 'proven', there is no convincing those who do not want to be convinced. It is just how trance works, you can't be hypnotized unless you want to be.

That and it is hard to quantify the differences between decent trance and sammy trance, they are not the same across all the tracks, but each comparison has some differences. I guess I can walk through a sample pair though, we can take something like Motorcycle - ATRC vs Sammy - Boys of Summer. First difference would be originality, ATRC is custom-written, boys of summer, a cheap cover of an 80's tune, most kids wanting the cheesy trance dont want 80's covers(but I do have to admit that the cover of 'ordinary world' was pretty fun). Then we have length, ATRC is like 7 mins, boys of summer, 3. Trance kids have small attention spans, but not small enough for 3 minute radio tunes. I understand ATRC has a radio edit, and boys of summer has an extended version, but even if we pair up the long versions or the short versions together, boys of summer is just extra verses of the song, ATRC has a rising and falling energy cycle to it, kids liking the epic trance want the shifting energy, not an extra verse of lyrics. Then we have the hypnotic pieces, ATRC depends more heavily on these for its appeal than does boys of summer, which instead uses the trancy elements as a sort of garnish on top of the pop tune elements, it has the original boys of summer melody with some cheap arpegiating thing on top of it. ATRC is almost the opposite, consisting of mostly of electronic G&D sounds with the pop elements acting as the secondary garnish for the tune, and a vocal about exstacy kicking in, which can hardly be as poppish a vocal as boys of summer.

Anyay, I doubt that one example will prove anything, but I dont really feel like I have anything to prove, I'll just like what I like for whatever reasons I can think of but not quite portray on the screen. There just comes a point where analyzing this stuff takes all the fun out of it, and we are flirting with that point right now, so I dont think I will go much farther with this trying to explain how they are different stuff.

so you aren't the TA member formerly known as radagast?

he would recomend a different tune is his signature every week, but I havent seen him post recently, but maybe I'm just not searching enough.

I kinda like how this thred fell off the front page of the forum, kinda makes me fell like I had the last word, but here I am bringing it all back just to figure out what happened to ol radagast, sigh.

Anyway, I'm done arguing for now, no hard feelings to those who disagree, we'll save tune recomendations for another thread aiwendil.

If you cant listen to tracks by groups like Lasgo, Ian Van Dahl, Dj Sammy without getting uptight I think you should go see a psychologist.

They have their place for a cheap uplifting kick. Commercilial stuff like that is what got me into trance and for that I respect.

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Originally posted by locutox If you cant listen to tracks by groups like Lasgo, Ian Van Dahl, Dj Sammy without getting uptight I think you should go see a psychologist. They have their place for a cheap uplifting kick. Commercilial stuff like that is what got me into trance and for that I respect.

It's the fact that people who know trance as either the hypnotic, psychedelic, or proggy varieties don't really like it when modern euro gets the same 'trance' label just because it either uses a breakdown/build template (hardly a trance exclusive; just listen to some disco house) or makes use of similar sounds (again, sounds that are hardly a trance exclusive; eg: pads were used in ambient long before producers started to add them to techno to make them trance).

Hmmm.. I think I'm starting to understand what all those techno purists were going on about in the early 90's.

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