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Posted by WillyWonka on May-26-2005 19:37:

AWESOME!!!

I just finished watching my bootleg copy of Revenge of the Sith that I bought in a store in Chinatown on my lunch break. The print was a very good copy and it must have been an inside job for it to be so clear!


Posted by arek on May-26-2005 21:10:

it was lucas himself who leaked it.


Posted by Dj Smitty20 on May-26-2005 22:18:

quote:
Originally posted by malek
yeah!! wtf was that?!?!? it was like watching a Disney movie.

and that evil big robot (fuck forgot the name), he was having asthma!?!? a robot with asthma?!!


did you not see the various organs and flesh on parts of his robotic frame? That would indicate a cyborg.


Posted by malek on May-26-2005 22:59:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj Smitty20
did you not see the various organs and flesh on parts of his robotic frame? That would indicate a cyborg.



ok

so they have all these technologies but he still has asthmas

same can be said for MAXIPADme for dying while delievering the twins... so friggin lame.


Posted by Blue. on May-26-2005 23:25:

quote:
Originally posted by malek
ok

so they have all these technologies but he still has asthmas

same can be said for MAXIPADme for dying while delievering the twins... so friggin lame.


He may have been sick but I doubt he had asthma considering the fight he put up against Obi Wan.


Posted by Dj Smitty20 on May-26-2005 23:26:

quote:
Originally posted by malek
ok

so they have all these technologies but he still has asthmas

same can be said for MAXIPADme for dying while delievering the twins... so friggin lame.


it's fantasy (at its best) set in space. It requires suspension of disbelief or at least, believing in things that are far fetched in our world. That's the whole point...enjoyable escapism.

If you sit there wondering if a lightsabre is heavy to handle or why a cyborg coughs (use your imagination), then you're missing the whole point of the movie.


Posted by malek on May-26-2005 23:35:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj Smitty20
it's fantasy (at its best) set in space. It requires suspension of disbelief or at least, believing in things that are far fetched in our world. That's the whole point...enjoyable escapism.

If you sit there wondering if a lightsabre is heavy to handle or why a cyborg coughs (use your imagination), then you're missing the whole point of the movie.


I enjoy "escapism" very very much! but these things sober you up quickly and ruin it.


Posted by Kytracid on May-26-2005 23:38:

Unbelievable, and no - i'm not talking about this films ridiculously childish plotline, or the hammy acting. I'm expressing disbelieve that this flick has actually got a 8.1 on IMDB, which ranks it as the #176 best movie of all time as voted by the worlds largest internet movie database users. So, according to the geeky members of IMDB this flick is on par with movies like "Gladiator", "Lost in Translation" and "A street car named Desire" --- STAR WARS 3: Revenge of the Shit.

It's beyond understandable how this film gets ranked so highly...

sure it deserves to make millions of dollars cause people are stupid and will pay for this sort of mindless entartainment.

but ranked as the top #200 movies of all time...really ?



IMDB


Posted by jester on May-26-2005 23:38:

Pretty good movie... the SFX were just amazing... the opening scene


Posted by Nick on May-27-2005 00:50:

quote:
Originally posted by malek
yeah!! wtf was that?!?!? it was like watching a Disney movie.

and that evil big robot (fuck forgot the name), he was having asthma!?!? a robot with asthma?!!


Maan I'm gonna be labeled nerd-for-life here...
but General Grievous was coughing because Mace Windu force-crushed him just before Grieveous took off with the kidnapped chancellor.

All this can be viewed from the Clone Wars cartoon, chapter 25.


Posted by Dj Smitty20 on May-27-2005 03:07:

quote:
Originally posted by malek
I enjoy "escapism" very very much! but these things sober you up quickly and ruin it.


well, if you watch the Clone Wars cartoon DVD, it supposedly answers why Grievous coughs. I haven't seen them, but it didn't bother me. I agree though, about Padme's death. The "giving up on life" ploy was a bit silly, but thankfully it doesnt ruin the whole movie. I just don't understand why Lucas didn't linger on the shot of Anakin choking Padme for another 5 seconds...then it would be entirely plausible that she died of lack of oxygen to the brain causing complications in childbirth, yadda yadda yadda. He made this movie very dark, but seemed to wimp out on what could have been one of the darkest moments in a film i've ever seen.

He really should have let somebody co-direct this movie or take over the directorial reigns completely. I don't think anybody but Lucas would have allowed such an awkward end to a character like Luke and Leia's mother.


Posted by Dj Smitty20 on May-27-2005 03:10:

quote:
Originally posted by Kytracid
Unbelievable, and no - i'm not talking about this films ridiculously childish plotline, or the hammy acting. I'm expressing disbelieve that this flick has actually got a 8.1 on IMDB, which ranks it as the #176 best movie of all time as voted by the worlds largest internet movie database users. So, according to the geeky members of IMDB this flick is on par with movies like "Gladiator", "Lost in Translation" and "A street car named Desire" --- STAR WARS 3: Revenge of the Shit.

It's beyond understandable how this film gets ranked so highly...

sure it deserves to make millions of dollars cause people are stupid and will pay for this sort of mindless entartainment.

but ranked as the top #200 movies of all time...really ?



IMDB


Star Wars obviously isnt your thing so why bother wasting 100 words bashing it? And who cares what IMDB lists the greatest movies as....I don't think the three you mentioned deserve mention at all, especially Gladiator.

Do you see how opinions work?


Posted by Blue. on May-27-2005 03:14:

quote:
Originally posted by Kytracid
Unbelievable, and no - i'm not talking about this films ridiculously childish plotline, or the hammy acting. I'm expressing disbelieve that this flick has actually got a 8.1 on IMDB, which ranks it as the #176 best movie of all time as voted by the worlds largest internet movie database users. So, according to the geeky members of IMDB this flick is on par with movies like "Gladiator", "Lost in Translation" and "A street car named Desire" --- STAR WARS 3: Revenge of the Shit.

It's beyond understandable how this film gets ranked so highly...

sure it deserves to make millions of dollars cause people are stupid and will pay for this sort of mindless entartainment.

but ranked as the top #200 movies of all time...really ?



IMDB


Wow that is pathetic. On par with such great movies apparantly.

I loved Star Wars, the games, the movies, everything so I can honestly say that I was disappointed with it.


Posted by ShadoWolf on Jun-16-2005 17:55:

Thumbs up

Amazing movie... I give it 4 1/2 stars. It would have been 5, but the script used too much "familiar" language... something as epic as this movie requires poetic language.


Posted by E2EK1EL on Jun-16-2005 18:00:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj Smitty20
well, if you watch the Clone Wars cartoon DVD, it supposedly answers why Grievous coughs.


I didn't watch SW EP II .... someone explain pls.


Posted by ShadoWolf on Jun-16-2005 18:19:

quote:
Originally posted by E2EK1EL
I didn't watch SW EP II .... someone explain pls.


he's refering to the Clone Wars DVD, which takes place between Eps. 2 and 3


Posted by Kytracid on Jun-16-2005 18:43:

quote:
Originally posted by Dj Smitty20
Star Wars obviously isnt your thing so why bother wasting 100 words bashing it? And who cares what IMDB lists the greatest movies as....I don't think the three you mentioned deserve mention at all, especially Gladiator.

Do you see how opinions work?


Actually i didn't mind EP3. It was a decent popcorn entartainer, and if you really wanna know the reason i wasted 100 words bashing it (if that's what you want to call an opinion contrary to yours) then i'll tell you.

I'm shocked that this film is ranked so highly by the #1 internet film website in the world. Those rankings are done by people, not critics, so it's shocking to me that people actually think that this movie is on par with some really great cinema.

I'm well aware of how opinions work...maybe it's you that needs to reflect a little bit on why it comes as a surprise to someone who enjoys cinema that a mediocre CGI effects ladden film with a paper thin plot and poor acting can get ranked amongst the greatest films ever made.


Posted by Spike on Jun-16-2005 20:16:

Star Wars fans are like abused housewives coming back time and time again for another beating because they had deluded themselves that �it would get better this time, honestly.�

There�s about 15 minutes of really impressive fight scenes surrounded by 2 plus hours of absolute garbage. Every actor in this film is beyond cardboard. I wasn�t expecting deep and meaningful, but seriously, every person who opens their mouth spews something embarrassing. Ewan MacGregor is the only person who retains a shred of personality and even he�s scuba diving in crap for the majority of the film.

I couldn�t help but feel like I was watching Star Wars fan fiction with a hundred million dollar budget. It was that terrible. The prequel trilogy is three for three on the shit-o-meter.

Whenever I go see a film I have a simple intelligence criterion. I think of myself as someone with average intelligence. If I see something in the moment as I watch a film and dozens of people involved in writing, directing and editing the film didn�t see how stupid something was after months of pouring over each scene, then they could be morons. This film made me feel like a genius.


Wondrous shit:

- Oh look, it�s Chewbacca, what an incredible coincidence. Every wookie is wearing some kind of elaborate gear and there�s Chewy in his same old bandoleer that he apparently wears for the next twenty years, making sure we can�t miss his completely unnecessary appearance.

- Almost every line of dialogue. No, really. Always make sure you tell us exactly what�s clearly happening on screen. Make sure you say it in the most blatantly obvious way and deliver it as if you just don�t care. Worst offenders: Anakin and Padme.

- Apparently the entire rise of the Empire could�ve been averted if the Jedi council would�ve granted Anakin the tile of �Master�. The Jedi get all pig-headed, look way more suspicious, usurp their own code and traditions and in turn doom the galaxy. If they would've called him a Master and explained Palpatine's duplicity better, he would�ve trusted them more and worked with them to stop the Senator, thus earning his Master title anyways. Instead they blatantly fuel his trust for Palpatine and even talk about how he�s being mislead instead of doing anything about it. Well done, oh wise ones.

- When Palpatine reveals himself to Anakin as a master of the Dark Side, Anakin doesn�t give in and tells him that he�s going to turn him in for his crimes. Then he promptly leaves Palpatine and goes to get the Jedi. Okay, the next time I commit a terrible crime, you tell me to wait here while you go get the police. Even worse, he actually does just sit around waiting to be arrested. Yes he kicks some ass, but they could've brought a whole platoon to arrest him instead of 3 Jedi, two of which instantly got smoked after they'd apparently gotten their Jedi Training Membership Cards from a Cracker Jack Box.

- Anakin becomes Darth Vader in the most unconvincing series of events and dialogue imaginable. One second he�s saying �What have I done?�, the next he�s pledging absolute allegiance (with as much conviction as cardboard) and then slavishly slaying kids and other innocents for the Sith. What the hell is going on?

- It IS actually possible to O.D. on lightsaber swinging. Less can be more. It just became visual noise to me after a while.

- Darth Vader�s epic introduction ends with the B-Movie awful scream of �Noooooooooooooooo!� Between that and his overall crap-tastic motivation for becoming a Sith Lord in the first place, Vader just lost every shred of cool. Perfecto.

- Padme doesn�t have a scratch on her but she dies because she�s apparently �lost the will to live�. Wha-th-huh? Unbelievably terrible...

- The original concept George Lucas talked about way back when where the droids would be the consistent unifying element of all nine films evolved into R2-D2 the bleeping little comedic hero and C-3P0 the useless unnecessary git who says the obvious and then gets his memory wiped at the end of Episode III. Nice going.


Posted by Jem_hadar on Jun-16-2005 20:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Spike
Star Wars fans are like abused housewives coming back time and time again for another beating because they had deluded themselves that �it would get better this time, honestly.�

There�s about 15 minutes of really impressive fight scenes surrounded by 2 plus hours of absolute garbage. Every actor in this film is beyond cardboard. I wasn�t expecting deep and meaningful, but seriously, every person who opens their mouth spews something embarrassing. Ewan MacGregor is the only person who retains a shred of personality and even he�s scuba diving in crap for the majority of the film.

I couldn�t help but feel like I was watching Star Wars fan fiction with a hundred million dollar budget. It was that terrible. The prequel trilogy is three for three on the shit-o-meter.

Whenever I go see a film I have a simple intelligence criterion. I think of myself as someone with average intelligence. If I see something in the moment as I watch a film and dozens of people involved in writing, directing and editing the film didn�t see how stupid something was after months of pouring over each scene, then they could be morons. This film made me feel like a genius.


Wondrous shit:

- Oh look, it�s Chewbacca, what an incredible coincidence. Every wookie is wearing some kind of elaborate gear and there�s Chewy in his same old bandoleer that he apparently wears for the next twenty years, making sure we can�t miss his completely unnecessary appearance.

- Almost every line of dialogue. No, really. Always make sure you tell us exactly what�s clearly happening on screen. Make sure you say it in the most blatantly obvious way and deliver it as if you just don�t care. Worst offenders: Anakin and Padme.

- Apparently the entire rise of the Empire could�ve been averted if the Jedi council would�ve granted Anakin the tile of �Master�. The Jedi get all pig-headed, look way more suspicious, usurp their own code and traditions and in turn doom the galaxy. If they would've called him a Master and explained Palpatine's duplicity better, he would�ve trusted them more and worked with them to stop the Senator, thus earning his Master title anyways. Instead they blatantly fuel his trust for Palpatine and even talk about how he�s being mislead instead of doing anything about it. Well done, oh wise ones.

- When Palpatine reveals himself to Anakin as a master of the Dark Side, Anakin doesn�t give in and tells him that he�s going to turn him in for his crimes. Then he promptly leaves Palpatine and goes to get the Jedi. Okay, the next time I commit a terrible crime, you tell me to wait here while you go get the police. Even worse, he actually does just sit around waiting to be arrested. Yes he kicks some ass, but they could've brought a whole platoon to arrest him instead of 3 Jedi, two of which instantly got smoked after they'd apparently gotten their Jedi Training Membership Cards from a Cracker Jack Box.

- Anakin becomes Darth Vader in the most unconvincing series of events and dialogue imaginable. One second he�s saying �What have I done?�, the next he�s pledging absolute allegiance (with as much conviction as cardboard) and then slavishly slaying kids and other innocents for the Sith. What the hell is going on?

- It IS actually possible to O.D. on lightsaber swinging. Less can be more. It just became visual noise to me after a while.

- Darth Vader�s epic introduction ends with the B-Movie awful scream of �Noooooooooooooooo!� Between that and his overall crap-tastic motivation for becoming a Sith Lord in the first place, Vader just lost every shred of cool. Perfecto.

- Padme doesn�t have a scratch on her but she dies because she�s apparently �lost the will to live�. Wha-th-huh? Unbelievably terrible...

- The original concept George Lucas talked about way back when where the droids would be the consistent unifying element of all nine films evolved into R2-D2 the bleeping little comedic hero and C-3P0 the useless unnecessary git who says the obvious and then gets his memory wiped at the end of Episode III. Nice going.


HILARIOUS REVIEW.... im dying over here w/ laugher, esp. towards the end.

But sadly I agree w/ most of it, I really didnt enjoy this movie at all.


Posted by Nick on Jun-16-2005 21:20:

quote:
Originally posted by E2EK1EL
I didn't watch SW EP II .... someone explain pls.


quote:
Originally posted by malek
yeah!! wtf was that?!?!? it was like watching a Disney movie.

and that evil big robot (fuck forgot the name), he was having asthma!?!? a robot with asthma?!!


quote:
Maan I'm gonna be labeled nerd-for-life here...
but General Grievous was coughing because Mace Windu force-crushed him just before Grieveous took off with the kidnapped chancellor.

All this can be viewed from the Clone Wars cartoon Season 3, sepisode 25.


Posted by Jem_hadar on Jun-16-2005 22:17:

quote:
Originally posted by Nick


Ahhh, now we know! Cool, thanks for the info.


Posted by E2EK1EL on Jun-16-2005 22:24:

Back then you can't bitch about SW ... b/c,

1) There was no internet

2) No msg boards

3) All the SW Fans were too young to bitch

4) If they were allow to review the old skool ones and bitch about it, they would.


Posted by ShadoWolf on Jun-16-2005 22:28:

quote:
Originally posted by E2EK1EL
Back then you can't bitch about SW ... b/c,

1) There was no internet

2) No msg boards

3) All the SW Fans were too young to bitch

4) If they were allow to review the old skool ones and bitch about it, they would.






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