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Posted by Blue. on Jun-02-2005 04:11:

quote:
Originally posted by Wraith
I think people need to realize that someone having a bad opinion of an artist isn't a personal attack. I see it all the time especially in the Tiesto threads, someone comes on and says something negative but not over the line and then you have people calling them out on their opinion. Not asking them why they feel that way or anything of that nature, just flaming them with "well, you haven't heard this, or that,", or "OMFG you're a moron you don't know shit about music." People just need to chill out on here. I used to be exactly like that. I'd get all wound up if someone had bad things to say about something I liked. Now I've come to realize that it's a waste of time to sit on here and yell at people about their opinions. If they like it then good for them, if they don't, then IMO they're missing out but still good for them. As for the trolls, well they're just some hilarious entertainment.


Agreed. Sometimes people calm down at least. When you read my thread over you see that by the end I have a chance to fully explain myself and things are all fine and dandy.

I love the weak arguments that get used though:
a)you are just a bandwaggoner
no i have an opinion
b)he's popular so obviously he's good
so's britney spears and dj sami
c)you just havn't heard "insert set or mix here"
yes i did, i wasn't born yesterday
d)you're an idiot
how many tiesto fans does it take to screw in a lightbulb?


Posted by MichaelBoogerd! on Jun-02-2005 11:18:

LOL @ T14 bashing tiesto.com

agree... but this place is just as bad! Its just there is more regulars who actually post relevantly to keep it worthwhile to visit this forum.

Even if all the retards left the Tiesto.com website, it still wouldn't be of much relevance without its community... most of whom belong here too anyway.


Posted by tiesto14 on Jun-02-2005 13:36:

quote:
Originally posted by MichaelBoogerd!
LOL @ T14 bashing tiesto.com






Bro...besdies you, Konijn, AservusZ (sp) everyone there is a dipshit...lol......

I realized that when i started seeing threads like this:

01. What's Tiesto's Favorite Color?
02. Where Can I Get The Sweater Tiesto Was Wearing At His Last Show?
03. Is Tiesto The Second Coming?
04. If Tiesto Was A Smurf, What Smurf Would He Be?


Posted by sandstorm03 on Jun-02-2005 13:44:

quote:
Originally posted by tiesto14


Bro...besdies you, Konijn, AservusZ (sp) everyone there is a dipshit...lol......

I realized that when i started seeing threads like this:

01. What's Tiesto's Favorite Color?
02. Where Can I Get The Sweater Tiesto Was Wearing At His Last Show?
03. Is Tiesto The Second Coming?
04. If Tiesto Was A Smurf, What Smurf Would He Be?


What Walt disney dressup charactor would Tiesto best suit?


Posted by tiesto14 on Jun-02-2005 13:46:

quote:
Originally posted by sandstorm03
What Walt disney dressup charactor would Tiesto best suit?





LOL.....

I see you have visited tiesto forums...lol


Posted by Krysta_101 on Jun-02-2005 13:51:

I've got a question about the Ti�sto forums... why is it everyone's title is "quality... not quantity". What the hell is meant by that? It doesn't make sense. He obviously doesn't live by this statement. It's so esoteric and pointless.


Posted by Konijn on Jun-02-2005 14:00:

quote:
Originally posted by Krysta_101
I've got a question about the Ti�sto forums... why is it everyone's title is "quality... not quantity". What the hell is meant by that? It doesn't make sense. He obviously doesn't live by this statement. It's so esoteric and pointless.


when the new forums started three years ago there were various rankings determined by post count and everyone started spamming hundreds of posts to get the count up -- the mods took away post count headings and replaced it with the "quality over quantity" to curb the spam


Posted by tiesto14 on Jun-02-2005 17:45:

quote:
Originally posted by Konijn
when the new forums started three years ago there were various rankings determined by post count and everyone started spamming hundreds of posts to get the count up -- the mods took away post count headings and replaced it with the "quality over quantity" to curb the spam



cough cough Merel......thought i WOULD tap that.


Posted by iammesol on Jun-02-2005 20:56:

quote:
Originally posted by tiesto14


Bro...besdies you, Konijn, AservusZ (sp) everyone there is a dipshit...lol......

I realized that when i started seeing threads like this:

01. What's Tiesto's Favorite Color?
02. Where Can I Get The Sweater Tiesto Was Wearing At His Last Show?
03. Is Tiesto The Second Coming?
04. If Tiesto Was A Smurf, What Smurf Would He Be?



for the record i never even entered those topics


Posted by MichaelBoogerd! on Jun-03-2005 08:47:

hehe Brooks i know what you mean mate!

Been 2 weeks since i checked out something other than the tracklists & opinion/question/party report sections... thanks god i don't have time to spend on there that often anymore!


Posted by Good4TuneRecord on Jun-09-2005 23:44:

quote:
Originally posted by sandstorm03
noooooo you missed the point. I was talking in the sence of mixing. I can drop Traffic just as well as Tiesto... But that doesn't make me #1.


I am sorry bro, but that didn't come out right. Sure you can drop Traffic like Tiesto.... Hell I can drop Traffic like Tiesto, but can you write a song like Traffic the way Tiesto does? Sure the song is overplayed, but you know why it is over played, because it was that good. And don't get me wrong, I am actually an Armin Van Buuren fan but Djing and Producing go hand and hand, and alot of people take that into consideration when it comes time to vote who is #1 on the poll. And that is why Tiesto is #1. I know everyone wants to take the crown away from who ever is on top, but you got to give him some credit.


Posted by Blue. on Jun-09-2005 23:46:

quote:
Originally posted by Good4TuneRecord
I am sorry bro, but that didn't come out right. Sure you can drop Traffic like Tiesto.... Hell I can drop Traffic like Tiesto, but can you write a song like Traffic the way Tiesto does? Sure the song is overplayed, but you know why it is over played, because it was that good. And don't get me wrong, I am actually an Armin Van Buuren fan but Djing and Producing go hand and hand, and alot of people take that into consideration when it comes time to vote who is #1 on the poll. And that is why Tiesto is #1. I know everyone wants to take the crown away from who ever is on top, but you got to give him some credit.


Just because a song is played doesn't make it good. Go listen to commercial radio and tell me that the newest backstreet boys single is good simply because of it's popularity. Tiesto is number one because those same backstreet boys fans voted for the best DJ.


Posted by Nostalgic on Jun-09-2005 23:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Blue.
Just because a song is played doesn't make it good. Go listen to commercial radio and tell me that the newest backstreet boys single is good simply because of it's popularity. Tiesto is number one because those same backstreet boys fans voted for the best DJ.


when dj tiesto dropped zombie nation in energy 2000 the song sounded awesome even though i absolute hate the song


Posted by Blue. on Jun-09-2005 23:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Erotic Buddha
when dj tiesto dropped zombie nation in energy 2000 the song sounded awesome even though i absolute hate the song


I actualy like that song. Just because a song is popular or gets overplayed won't make me like a song any less so I would have gone nuts hearing someone play that back in the day.


Posted by idoru on Jun-10-2005 00:01:

quote:
Originally posted by Good4TuneRecord
I am sorry bro, but that didn't come out right. Sure you can drop Traffic like Tiesto.... Hell I can drop Traffic like Tiesto, but can you write a song like Traffic the way Tiesto does?


No, we can't, because he really didn't make Traffic. See the tune called Sean Deason - Pyskofuk or whatever it's called. Tijs sampled most of it.


Posted by Good4TuneRecord on Jun-10-2005 00:02:

quote:
Originally posted by Tony Morello
just because you're number one doesn't give you the excuse to not challange yourself and take things to the next level

sure he doesn't do 5 min transitions or play 4 different tracks at once, but why not? he's number one, i'd expect the number one dj in the world to be able to wow me when he plays, show me something new that i don't know yet, push the limits... he has one job, you'd think he'd try to be as best as he can at it

he's just sitting there riding on his success not doing anything more

and about him playing too much and recording a lot

i play over 230 shows annually right now and i still push the envelope and try new things, i don't just show up and half ass my way through a gig, people pay hard earned money to hear me play and i never let them down, fans come first

tiesto needs to pull his head out of his ass and stick in back in his record bag


I think Tiesto should wow you by making songs so you can play them & feel the energy from the crowd off of HIS tracks...sure this thread is about "Tiesto live djing skills" So, maybe he is not the best Dj, but when he makes tracks like he does, that has to count for something, and if it doesn't count for anything to you, then I would hope you don't have the nerve to play any of his songs. Be a person of your word, if you think he sux that bad and you say he needs to get his head out of his ass, then don't bother playing his songs. You got to understand your "limit pushing" is hardly anything compared to what he has done for dance music. Bottom line.. it is called the Dj poll but most the top Dj's are Producers first and that is how he has got this success to ride off of.


Posted by JakeC on Jun-10-2005 00:04:

quote:
Originally posted by idoru
No, we can't, because he really didn't make Traffic. See the tune called Sean Deason - Pyskofuk or whatever it's called. Tijs sampled most of it.


and credited that artist and the artist said he liekd it better than his as it took it in a different direction.

Sample smample, Dance music grew from sampling culture.

i doubt Sean Deason is complaining about it as he would have got payed.


Posted by Good4TuneRecord on Jun-10-2005 00:13:

quote:
Originally posted by Tony Morello
of course i've wrecked, i'm human, shit happens, it's inevitable
levels no, i'm a producer and spot on levels are a must for me

however, i never said anything about his technical ability, i've heard the man play many times and know he can spin some records, which is why i made my post... like what happened to tiesto? he pulled his head out of his records and shoved it so far up his ass he can see his tonsils, then his ego kicked in, his head inflated and now he can't pull it out

the first time i heard him back in 2001 i think it was (he was only in the top 10 at the time), he blew me away

the big thing i'm trying to get across, don't just go to your gigs and stand there and play records, get into it, show me you actually want to be here instead of "i'm getting paid a lot of money to be here, bow down to me and cheer"

earn your extravagant paycheque, or someone else will


Do you know Tiesto?? How do you know his ego kicked in??? He has to act #1 if he is #1. He has an imagine to uphold !!! He has to think of his career.

Look at movie stars, you think they act that way when they are at home with there friends...NO, they only act like that when they are on the Jay Leno show. And of course it is all about the money..what isn't about the $$$ when your dealing with buisness. And Tiesto put on a great show when I saw him


Posted by Blue. on Jun-10-2005 00:16:

quote:
Originally posted by Good4TuneRecord
I think Tiesto should wow you by making songs so you can play them & feel the energy from the crowd off of HIS tracks...sure this thread is about "Tiesto live djing skills" So, maybe he is not the best Dj, but when he makes tracks like he does, that has to count for something, and if it doesn't count for anything to you, then I would hope you don't have the nerve to play any of his songs. Be a person of your word, if you think he sux that bad and you say he needs to get his head out of his ass, then don't bother playing his songs. You got to understand your "limit pushing" is hardly anything compared to what he has done for dance music. Bottom line.. it is called the Dj poll but most the top Dj's are Producers first and that is how he has got this success to ride off of.


It doesn't matter how they started, producing and DJings are two completely different things.


Posted by Good4TuneRecord on Jun-10-2005 00:18:

quote:
Originally posted by Toufas
why?
its the same fuckin track


and about that final scratch thing...since when this has anything to do with mixing? its not like he is using a pc to mix the songs....
well i am bored even to flame their pop idol
i predict that in 10 years tiesto is gonna be a judge in dutch popstar/american idol spinoff program


Well, I hate to tell you this. You might be a little G&D fan right now cause they are "in" but in 5 years (after they start creating more of their own ORIGNAL SONGS) they will be played out also !!


No offense to G&D but everyone gets played out sooner or later and maybe Tiesto will become some lame judge on an American Idol spin-off show, but at the end of his day you might be asking him if he wants "paper or plastic"


Posted by Blue. on Jun-10-2005 00:20:

quote:
Originally posted by Good4TuneRecord
Well, I hate to tell you this. You might be a little G&D fan right now cause they are "in" but in 5 years (after they start creating more of their own ORIGNAL SONGS) they will be played out also !!


No offense to G&D but everyone gets played out sooner or later and maybe Tiesto will become some lame judge on an American Idol spin-off show, but at the end of his day you might be asking him if he wants "paper or plastic"


I don't want to break your heart but not everyone is a bandwagoner. When people ditch G&D it will be for the same reason they ditched Tiesto, because his DJing and producing went to total shit.


Posted by Good4TuneRecord on Jun-10-2005 00:21:

Re: Re: Tiesto's Live DJing Skills

quote:
Originally posted by Blue.
I bash him because his sets are boring, I rarely look at whether or not a DJ makes a perfect transition as long as he doesn't scratch too much or overuse any effects.

Wonder why the CDs are perfect? The tracklist is picked out beforehand which means he doesn't have to fill requests or think of any tracks on the fly. He can just sit in his studio and practice the transitions a million times.

It's also worked on in a studio meaning if he makes a small mistake they can fix it afterward. How do you know he didn't record 5 sets and then just pick the one with the least screwups? Check out other concert s, they're all planned to a T beforehand. Just because he has good live-recorded CDs doesn't mean that he's any more talented based on the lack of trainwrecks.


and how does this not relate to any other "famous" dj ??


Posted by Blue. on Jun-10-2005 00:23:

Re: Re: Re: Tiesto's Live DJing Skills

quote:
Originally posted by Good4TuneRecord
and how does this not relate to any other "famous" dj ??


I never said it didn't, was there a deep meaningful point to that or were you just bored?


Posted by Good4TuneRecord on Jun-10-2005 00:25:

quote:
Originally posted by Blue.
It doesn't matter how they started, producing and DJings are two completely different things.


Well, let me spell it out for you. If you can not take his production into consideration when you are listening to his mixing, then you my friend don't see the big picture... they are two different things but they go hand in gloove when it comes time to vote.


Posted by Blue. on Jun-10-2005 00:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Good4TuneRecord
Well, let me spell it out for you. If you can not take his production into consideration when you are listening to his mixing, then you my friend don't see the big picture... they are two different things but they go hand in gloove when it comes time to vote.


Spell it out for me because I really don't seam to be getting the point of voting for the top Disc Jockey based on producing.

quote:
disc jockey also disk jockey
n.

An announcer who presents and comments on popular recorded music, especially on the radio; a DJ.


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