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Posted by newtotrance on Jun-29-2005 01:47:

quote:
Originally posted by prolikewhoa
even in us nonbelieving heathens?! *gasp* i think i just converted.


yes even for the nonbelieving heathens. lol.


Posted by M@t on Jun-29-2005 01:48:

quote:
Originally posted by newtotrance
He did sign his signature in the stars. lol And in the rest of the world even in you!


*looks for signature*

zomg i found this in my bathroom



maybe youre right


Posted by newtotrance on Jun-29-2005 01:53:

Talking

quote:
Originally posted by M@t
*looks for signature*

zomg i found this in my bathroom



maybe youre right


that is fucking hilarious. lol.


Posted by Aquarian on Jun-29-2005 02:05:

Sell that wall on e-bay!


Posted by Krypton on Jun-29-2005 02:22:

1) What is a human being?

2) What is Good & what is Evil?

3) What is the Prime Reality?

4) Is there anything outside time & space?


Posted by weymouth on Jun-29-2005 02:25:

quote:

I wouldn't necessarily say that being open minded is accepting others. You can accept others even if you radically oppose their views for no reason, but don't confront them about it. When confronted with an argument, an open minded individual would not hold steadfast to their position, but rather learn about the opposing argument, and then make a decision. You believe in God, the holy trinity, etc, and you believe anyone who says otherwise is wrong. that, my friend, is not being open minded


You are wrong. To be open minded is to listen to others opinions and views and then make a decision based on your knowledge and experience. To be closed minded is to not listen to anyone but yourself. By your definition anyone that has an opinion and holds to what they believe is closed minded. I suppose the only way someone to you is open minded is if they change their opinion every time people present them with enough "evidence" that they will change their mind.

Personally I would much rather be steadfast in what I believe in with my own opinion than to be indecisive, wishy-washy, and able to be prodded in any direction that others can successfully persuade me to go. I respect Christians, Muslims, Jews, Hindus, Atheists, and any other religion or belief than someone that is too weak as a person to make their own mind up and must be told what to believe through other people or the media. Also you can respect people and their beliefs even if you dont believe in their religion, that is tolerance. However, to say that because he believes in those things that he is closed minded is actually making you the intolerant one

In other words open-minded does not always have to equal open to change but open to the opinions of others in respect.


Posted by Krypton on Jun-29-2005 02:42:

quote:
Originally posted by weymouth
You are wrong. To be open minded is to listen to others opinions and views and then make a decision based on your knowledge and experience. To be closed minded is to not listen to anyone but yourself. By your definition anyone that has an opinion and holds to what they believe is closed minded. I suppose the only way someone to you is open minded is if they change their opinion every time people present them with enough "evidence" that they will change their mind.

Personally I would much rather be steadfast in what I believe in with my own opinion than to be indecisive, wishy-washy, and able to be prodded in any direction that others can successfully persuade me to go. I respect Christians, Muslims, Jews, Hindus, Atheists, and any other religion or belief than someone that is too weak as a person to make their own mind up and must be told what to believe through other people or the media. Also you can respect people and their beliefs even if you dont believe in their religion, that is tolerance. However, to say that because he believes in those things that he is closed minded is actually making you the intolerant one

In other words open-minded does not always have to equal open to change but open to the opinions of others in respect.


100% agree. if everyone were that type of open-minded, it would be very easy to be brainwashed by the media or gov't propaganda. i hate the atheist idiots who argue about open-mindedness when they themselves arent open-minded. they are just as hypocritical as the christians.


Posted by occrider on Jun-29-2005 03:13:

quote:
Originally posted by ::TranceVanDyk::
1) What is a human being?


A bipedal primate belonging to the superfamily of Hominoidea.

quote:

2) What is Good & what is Evil?


A system of principles and judgments based on cultural, religious, and philosophical concepts and beliefs, by which humans determine whether given actions are right or wrong.

quote:

3) What is the Prime Reality?


Reality.

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4) Is there anything outside time & space?


So you're looking for a spatial coordinate outside of the spatial dimension? Here I have an analagous question for you: what number is greater than cat?


Posted by Krypton on Jun-29-2005 03:21:

quote:
Originally posted by occrider
A bipedal primate belonging to the superfamily of Hominoidea.



A system of principles and judgments based on cultural, religious, and philosophical concepts and beliefs, by which humans determine whether given actions are right or wrong.



Reality.



So you're looking for a spatial coordinate outside of the spatial dimension? Here I have an analagous question for you: what number is greater than cat?


good answers. but...

1) what is reality?

2) i dont get your question as im less educated than you, but there are an infinite amount of numbers, therefore maybe an infinite amount of possiblities? per-say.


Posted by astroboy on Jun-29-2005 04:15:

quote:
Originally posted by ::TranceVanDyk::
2) i dont get your question as im less educated than you, but there are an infinite amount of numbers, therefore maybe an infinite amount of possiblities? per-say.


Yes but all those numbers have a certain set of characteristics that make them numbers.. they are, if you will, individual elements within a set of "numbers". Whereas "cat" is clearly not a member of that set, hence asking a question that only applies to numbers with regards to cat is non-sensical. Similarly asking a question that bynecessity applies only to time-space or at least shares its characteristics with regards to something that is entirely different is similarly non-sensical.


Posted by Matt Jay on Jun-29-2005 09:44:

Thank god i'm an athiest.


Posted by Ripped Bag on Jun-29-2005 09:52:

Thank god I skipped over all this shit and all I have to add is:


Anyone up for some no strings attatched sex?


Posted by fiya on Jun-29-2005 09:55:

quote:
Originally posted by Ripped Bag
Thank god I skipped over all this shit and all I have to add is:


Anyone up for some no strings attatched sex?


this ain't no singles line


Posted by djwright on Jun-29-2005 09:56:

quote:
Originally posted by fiya
this ain't no singles line


could it be? if only for the night?


Posted by Ripped Bag on Jun-29-2005 09:56:

quote:
Originally posted by fiya
this ain't no singles line


Me, you.. cold house, naked, and late night tv..


Posted by fiya on Jun-29-2005 09:58:

quote:
Originally posted by Ripped Bag
Me, you.. cold house, naked, and late night tv..


sorry, i'd rather watch conan by myself


Posted by Ripped Bag on Jun-29-2005 10:00:

quote:
Originally posted by fiya
sorry, i'd rather watch conan by myself


I was always a craig kilbourn guy myself..


Posted by fiya on Jun-29-2005 10:02:

quote:
Originally posted by Ripped Bag
I was always a craig kilbourn guy myself..


oh noes. ya, he left, so now what.


Posted by Ripped Bag on Jun-29-2005 10:03:

quote:
Originally posted by fiya
oh noes. ya, he left, so now what.



so now we get it on with the tv on


Posted by Dirtbag Magee on Jun-29-2005 10:07:

what about my nipples?


Posted by Ripped Bag on Jun-29-2005 10:09:

quote:
Originally posted by Dirtbag Magee
what about my nipples?


I'm pretty sure you can coax a dog in to licking peanut butter off your nipples.


Posted by newtotrance on Jun-29-2005 15:51:

Okay, let's get back to the topic that the thread started with.

question for everyone:

What are your beliefs regarding religion? Do you hold beliefs for one particular religion or do you believe something else? Love to hear from you.


Posted by Joycey on Jun-29-2005 16:33:

quote:
Originally posted by newtotrance
No, science is a not a religion. It is a form of man's own inventions and is man developed.


So is Christianity... Wasnt the bible written by men?


Posted by FallingMoon on Jun-29-2005 16:57:

My OPINION...

All "religion" is obsolete...

you do not have to practice a certain religion to believe in God. Religion is corrupt and they all contradict each other.

Christianity is the belief of Jesus Christ and Jesus is NOT God...many people would confuse the two and believe Christ to be their God or something, which I've seen. Catholics (I was baptized Catholic) believe in Saints and Saints are NOT God. Jews don't believe in Jesus but in God. All religions have these so called "systematic" beliefs when in reality it usually comes down to a man preaching the word of God or the bible and usually many people begin to praise a pastor, reverend etc and attend church because of these people...and that is totally wrong.

There are so many different bibles and they do not all interpret the same thing, whose to say which one is correct? Afterall, it was just a MAN who wrote these bibles.

I believe in God. I also believe in Science (as crazy as it sounds) I don't believe in religion and I don't believe in order to praise God you have to do so in a church, temple etc. I believe you can go to a corner in your house or next to your bed and pray. Belief lies in your heart and mind.

How would I look following a religion and going to church on Sundays when the night before I rolled balls. God may forgive our sins but that is wrong and it happens all the time just because people believe that they're going to hell or will be punished because they don't attend church or follow a religion.

The Catholic church was said to be split in half when the crucifixion of Christ occurred...what does that say?

I also believe in Science and their teachings but just like religion, it's flawed and they contradict their research all the time.

[this is just my opinion so I don't want anyone attacking what I believe in since I have not singled out anyone and done it to them...we are all different and believe different things]


Posted by Krypton on Jun-29-2005 17:43:

quote:
Originally posted by occrider
A system of principles and judgments based on cultural, religious, and philosophical concepts and beliefs, by which humans determine whether given actions are right or wrong.


your a smart guy occrider

the germans thought it the right thing to do when they sent the jews off to the concentration camps. the serbs thought it the right thing to do to force out the muslims. in the middle east, dying for "allah" is an honor. it was a necessary move for the soviets to send millions of it citizens to the gulags in siberia to die of exhaustion. thousands starve to death in india because they believe all animals(source of meat) are divine reincarnations.

and there are more examples, but it seems like humans really dont know whats right and wrong.


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