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Originally posted by Dave Clarke Yes lots of use of the word 'could' on this topic. It could do this and it could do that. However in the hands of a trance dj it never will really will it?

true, basically because of the way trance is produced, there isn't much you can do with it in that sense. tracks are often made to sound full & complete, with their own clear-cut peak/trough structures and melodic overtones. trying anything beyond mixing the outros with the intros will normally result in horrid clashing. i've heard very few DJs who could disprove this anyway

Christ people are pessimistic old codgers these days

Thanks god some of us still know how to go out and have a good time

Roll on Trance Gen

I'll get the ball rolling then fuckers..


01. Chemical Brothers - Galvanise (Unknown Remix)
02. Mike Koglin vs Jono Grant - Sequential
03. ID
04. Marc van Linden - Forbidden Love
05. Stoneface & Terminal - Miami
06. Pulser - Point of Impact (Mike Koglin Remix)
07. ID
08. Marco V - False Light
09. Sander van Doorn - Dark Roast (Paul van Dyk Edit)
10. Timo Maas - Pictures (Paul van Dyk Remix)
11. Hands On Keane - Last Time (Martin Roth Bootleg) (Paul van Dyk Rework)
12. ID
13. Marzz - Helion Prime
14. ID
15. Smith & Pledger - Northern Lights
16. Perasma - Swing 2 Harmony (Deserves An Effort Symphony Dub Mix)
17. Andain - Beautiful Things (Markus Schulz Shadows Of Coldharbour Mix)
18. M.I.K.E - Turn Out The Lights (Paul van Dyk Rework)
19. Antimatter - Absolut Zero (Paul van Dyk Rework)
20. Inertia - The Chamber (Paul van Dyk Rework)
21. Randy Katana - Play It Louder
22. Marcel Woods - Adrenaline
23. Josh Wink - Higher State Of Conciousness (Bootleg Mix)
24. Guiseppe Ottovanni - Linking People
25. Nu-NRG - Casino [w/ Freefall - Skydive (Mr Sam Mix) Sampled]
26. Ernesto & Bastian - Dark Side Of The Moon (Marc Van Linden Remix)
27. Freefall - Skydive (Mr Sam Mix)
28. Krzysztof Chochlow - Release
29. Markus Schulz feat Departure - Without You Near (Original Mix)
30. Paul van Dyk feat. Wayned Jackson - The Other Side
31. Paul van Dyk feat. Jan Johnston - Nothing But You (Original Mix)
32. Paul van Dyk - For An Angel (Marc van Linden Remix)



Also played was:

Second Sun - Playground (Nu-NRG Remix) (Definitely)
Thomas Bronswaer - Close Horizon (Possibly)


Please slot them in on the tracklist above if you know where they should be. Also add any others if you can.

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Originally posted by isoterra true, basically because of the way trance is produced, there isn't much you can do with it in that sense. tracks are often made to sound full & complete, with their own clear-cut peak/trough structures and melodic overtones. trying anything beyond mixing the outros with the intros will normally result in horrid clashing. i've heard very few DJs who could disprove this anyway

exactly & same response to Dave's last post, I fail to see the use for nearly all trance DJs with maybe a few exceptions

mikey: one of those first 3 IDs was Stoneface & Terminal - Miami, i distinctly remember it being played early on. tom porcell - final cut didn't get played, i would have def remembered that

What about Naxos Project - Cold Fusion? I am pretty certain one of the first couple of tracks in his N-Joy set was played but I always get this and Final Cut confused with each other. Failing that, one of the early tracks might have been Deep Voice - Alone Again (Thomas Datt Remix). But again all these shit trancers sound the same to me.

i like final cut ... hehe, not heard that cold fusion track but will check it out & see. actually now i remember, smith & pledger - northern lights (pvd rework) was definitely played, could have possibly been that you confused it with? lord knows if i can remember what part of the night it was though, around the middle

12 and 14 we're both tech-trance tracks if I recall correctly, so if northern lights got played around the middle it will be number 15.


edit: Infact I just got it and am convinced that's correct, cheers.


edit 2: Miami was number 5. I'll edit these 2 changes in the tracklist above.

hi mike.. i wasn't there, but i think these "tech-trancers" could be: Ian Knowless - Complete Madness
John Marks - Do It Again (Ron Van Den Beuken Remix)[his fave tune atm]

Wasn't there also a sample of operation blade chucked in there somewhere as well (couple of tunes before josh wink)?

Edit:
Isn't that Marcel Woods tune called Advanced?

It's all just a blur to me..... !

Amazing night,

All in all a good night then!!

Pretty much expected Mikey Mike's comments.. i'm sure no matter what I played you felt in necessary to abuse it... thanks.

MC?? We do the Mic a few times throughout the night to introduce DJ's and a couple of times during the longer sets.. it you felt this "ruined" the set, then i'm afraid you are in the minority.

But thanks all for continuing to support us...

Andy

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Originally posted by bagguley Pretty much expected Mikey Mike's comments.. i'm sure no matter what I played you felt in necessary to abuse it... thanks. MC?? We do the Mic a few times throughout the night to introduce DJ's and a couple of times during the longer sets.. it you felt this "ruined" the set, then i'm afraid you are in the minority.

in all fairness that was a pretty awful vocal number that came up 1 or 2 tunes after voco me, around about the time i left (which was mainly due to the heat/me being tired)

i'd agree with you on the 'MCing' though, i didn't think it was obtrusive at all

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Originally posted by bagguley Pretty much expected Mikey Mike's comments.. i'm sure no matter what I played you felt in necessary to abuse it... thanks.

That's bullshit. You started with a quality track and as a result I stayed to see how you progressed from there. When you brought the second track in, it was shit and everyone I was with set off home. But I didn't. I thought i'd stick around for a bit and see what was to come. You asked for a chance and I gave you one, but as I expected I didn't at all like what you were playing...

All in all I had a good night, thought Askew's set was good and PVD was good aswell, probably would have been grest if his set didnt lose its momentum in places. On the subject of the Mcing, the only time it really annoyed when is when it completely spoiled the buildup of Inertia - The Chamber. There was just no need at all.

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Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike That's bullshit. You started with a quality track and as a result I stayed to see how you progressed from there. When you brought the second track in, it was shit and everyone I was with set off home. But I didn't. I thought i'd stick around for a bit and see what was to come. You asked for a chance and I gave you one, but as I expected I didn't at all like what you were playing...

See well thats different... I have no problem with that at all.. everyone has different taste's in music obviously.. You didn't like my music, fine... But stating that i'm "shit" just because you have different taste in tunes to me is another..

Following on from the worlds #2 DJ, after an excellent 3 hour set is probably one of the hardest jobs as a DJ.. when you get a chance at it one day I hope you do well.

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Originally posted by bagguley You didn't like my music, fine... But stating that i'm "shit" just because you have different taste in tunes to me is another..

But where have I said that anywhere in this thread? My only post in reference to you before this night was this:

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On a technical front, there's nothing amazing about them, but they're not shit either. I just think they both play dog shit music

And my only post in reference to you after the night was this:

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It was wishful thinking that he might actually go on to keep up the pace to which he had set himself, but alas, no; he proceeded it immediately with shit fanny trance. I soon left.

I havn't once called you a shit DJ. I said you play shit music. Which then makes me wonder about the following:

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Originally posted by bagguley Following on from the worlds #2 DJ, after an excellent 3 hour set is probably one of the hardest jobs as a DJ.. when you get a chance at it one day I hope you do well.

Why would you be placed on a lineup after van Dyk when you're playlist is far less 'banging' ? It was obvious you were never going to be able to keep up the pace given your preference in music. This is a fact given how quickly the place emptied within 15 mins of you starting. Marc West would have been far more suitable surely?

Whether Marc or myself or any one else came on at 4am after 3 hours of PVD, the place was still going to empty out as: A. He was the main attraction that people had come for and B. Most people are proper knackered by that time. I could have played more "banging" as you put it but trust me, I know Passion far better than you ever will and the style I played at the end suited the masses that were there. If I had nailed out some harder music in any form, it would have emptied the club twice as fast.. guaranteed. The only way that place would have been kept going as busy as it was, was if I had played loads of classics, but thats not what i'm about.

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Originally posted by bagguley Following on from the worlds #2 DJ, after an excellent 3 hour set is probably one of the hardest jobs as a DJ.. when you get a chance at it one day I hope you do well.

I've recently seen Askew, Sheridan and Van Linden close after big DJs in different locations and all did a sterling effort to keep the energy in the club until the end.

Regarding the MCing, I can see no logical reason why there is any need to introduce a DJ or tell the crowd who the DJ is during the set when you have a VJ who is plastering it allover the screens every 5 minutes.

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Originally posted by bagguley Whether Marc or myself or any one else came on at 4am after 3 hours of PVD, the place was still going to empty out as: A. He was the main attraction that people had come for and B. Most people are proper knackered by that time. I could have played more "banging" as you put it but trust me, I know Passion far better than you ever will and the style I played at the end suited the masses that were there. If I had nailed out some harder music in any form, it would have emptied the club twice as fast.. guaranteed. The only way that place would have been kept going as busy as it was, was if I had played loads of classics, but thats not what i'm about.

I dont really have any objection to the music u play at all. However something i do object to is the fact that a club will always empty at 4am because people are knackered. U are right in saying PVD is the main attraction so why not have him last, thats what most clubs i've been at that actually manage to stay about 80% full do. People are knackered at 4am thats true but its amazing how playing the right music for the time or having the right dj will make a difference to that. So 1 or more of 2 things is wrong here, either ur not the right dj for the time slot or ur not playing the right tunes in the right way. If ur emptying the club and its not one of those things and it is just the passion crowd then u might aswell close at 4 and save some money.

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Originally posted by DigitalBlonde Wasn't there also a sample of operation blade chucked in there somewhere as well (couple of tunes before josh wink)? Edit: Isn't that Marcel Woods tune called Advanced?

Operation Blade

It was New Order - Confusion, the tune that Public Domain sampled for their track.

Confusion was no sample as it was played for a good 5 minutes, I believe it went something like this:

21. Randy Katana - Play It Louder
22. New Order - Confusion
23. Marcel Woods - Adrenaline

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Originally posted by gibbo I dont really have any objection to the music u play at all. However something i do object to is the fact that a club will always empty at 4am because people are knackered. U are right in saying PVD is the main attraction so why not have him last, thats what most clubs i've been at that actually manage to stay about 80% full do. People are knackered at 4am thats true but its amazing how playing the right music for the time or having the right dj will make a difference to that. So 1 or more of 2 things is wrong here, either ur not the right dj for the time slot or ur not playing the right tunes in the right way. If ur emptying the club and its not one of those things and it is just the passion crowd then u might aswell close at 4 and save some money.

The club didnot empty at 4am... the place was busy till we closed at 6:05am.. I didn't say that the club will always empty, i said it was going to quieten down a bit..

It seems that no matter what, people will always have a gripe with something or someone.. I played the right music for that time as proven by the numbers still there and still wanting more at 6am!!

I'm on a losing battle with you guys here as you obviously feel pretty strongly about this so lets agree to dissagree... For us it was a very successful night in all aspects and a few people on here don't change that!

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Originally posted by sykadelik I've recently seen Askew, Sheridan and Van Linden close after big DJs in different locations and all did a sterling effort to keep the energy in the club until the end. Regarding the MCing, I can see no logical reason why there is any need to introduce a DJ or tell the crowd who the DJ is during the set when you have a VJ who is plastering it allover the screens every 5 minutes.

As stated above, the energy and atmosphere was top notch till we closed.. thanks!!

And PVD, Askew and 99.9% of all the other DJ's... plus many many many clubbers dissagree with you re: the mic, and think that introducing DJ's is a good thing.

The impression i got from phrasing like "the club would have emptied twice as fast" is that it emptied. If it didnt then i'm wrong on that score. I enjoyed the night as a whole so i dont want to complain too much, just i dont believe having resident djs on last is the best option.

That new Katana tune "play it louder" actualy has the new order sample in as far as I know, unless its just a bootleg that Armin and Pual have been playing, coz everytime ive heard it its had that bit in it...


PS: Mikey Mike if thats u with the bottle of bud cringing at the music, you're a proper baby-face, didnt expect that!

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