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Posted by THE_Chris on Oct-09-2005 11:54:

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Originally posted by [B-O-F-H]
The method I documented isnt complicated, its much easier than making 20 independent versin of a track with varying effects and samples at least, and is already being trialled by a handful of labels and artists.

Your method is perfect for bigger artists who send loads of promos out, but for someone with a copy of Reason just making tracks as a hobby my idea would probobly be simpler (and cheaper )

Edit: also it would be interesting to see how long it is until someone leaks the algorithm making the whole system worthless

Posted by basvh on Oct-09-2005 22:06:

Nice topic but it is hard to discuss this because in every country the situation is different.

First of all stopping the leaking proces is very very hard because promo (vinyl and cd'r) are going through a lot of hands before it gets to the person who is supposed to get it or promo's are in places were there is a lot of risk that they are being ripped.
Ok watermarking is an option but a lot of labels are fighting to survive, they simply don't have the time or money to do this.

The vinyl sales have extremeley dropped over the last couple of years. This mostly because of MP3. This is affecting not only artists and labels but also vinyl-record stores and distributors. Luckily enough there is some new way to earn some bucks because of this new legal downloading. For labels it is good because they don't have to rely on distributors anymore, who are taking a big piece in the total costs for one vinyl. On the otherhand the only way to get this legal downloading working is to offer tracks at a low price. Before getting some money as a label or artists; taxes, billing company and downloadsite has to be paid leaving little profit

Somebody said that the labels should quit sending promos and offer the track to everybody. This is really not an option, sending promos is very important. First of all new tracks can be tested when they are promo. If you send a promo to an DJ and he spins it and the crowd goes nuts then as an label you know that it is a wise decision to release that track.
Also it is important to create a hype. When you are a label and you finally signed a track that will become huge or a classic you try to get this track as big as possible hoping for a good sale. Because sales are really low at the moment you have to squeeze as much as possible to get the most money out of a track.
Big name DJ's are very important in this proces: If they play a certain record and everybody goes wild then this track will be higly anticipated for release. If this track is released without being played by the big names it simply won't sell as much.

Posted by THE_Chris on Oct-09-2005 22:39:

But on the other hand, you have tracks which are said to be classics - everyone seems to like them, the hype builds, and builds. Everyone waits for the release. Nothing. Delays, bullshit and fornicating. More delays. And it ends up being months and months before the release, which comes with some godawful comissioned remixes. In the end, the hype has died down and noone really cares about the track anymore.

Creating a hype is one thing, but creating a hype, raping the track and waiting too long is the stupid reality we have to deal with

Posted by THE ROOKlE on Oct-09-2005 23:38:

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Originally posted by THE_Chris
But on the other hand, you have tracks which are said to be classics - everyone seems to like them, the hype builds, and builds. Everyone waits for the release. Nothing. Delays, bullshit and fornicating. More delays. And it ends up being months and months before the release, which comes with some godawful comissioned remixes. In the end, the hype has died down and noone really cares about the track anymore.

Creating a hype is one thing, but creating a hype, raping the track and waiting too long is the stupid reality we have to deal with

That's one of the worst things that could happen to a producer[s] of any release. Like that thread about Mike Foyle/Signalrunners love theme dusk. I'm sure they suffered a big LO$$ because of all the delays.

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