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Originally posted by DOOMBOT That is like saying, about a good pitcher, that he whores out his fastball alot. If it is working for you, then why change it?

My god.

"It's good, so it can never be better."

Is that really how you people think?

*officially boycotting this topic*

sorry threadstarter

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Originally posted by Ory My god. "It's good, so it can never be better." Is that really how you people think?

I was thinking in perspective of Andy Moor and how HE might feel about his music. It is quite possible that he notices that this bassline works very well for him and his record sales so why not keep using it? He isnt thinking about nitpickers like yourself.

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Originally posted by Ory My god. "It's good, so it can never be better." Is that really how you people think?

why are you so concerned with how others think?

maybe doombot loves andy moor's basslines... maybe he thinks they MAKE his tracks, and he or anyone else can think what they damn well please.

you've made your points already and have nothing left to say, so stop trying and shut the fuck up already.

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Originally posted by DOOMBOT I was thinking in perspective of Andy Moor and how HE might feel about his music. It is quite possible that he notices that this bassline works very well for him and his record sales so why not keep using it? He isnt thinking about nitpickers like yourself.

If he does it for money, it ceases to be music and becomes a product.

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Originally posted by Ory If he does it for money, it ceases to be music and becomes a product.

So you have taken what I stated as fact. Wow, please stop posting on this forum!

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Originally posted by DJ Intrigue My 2 cents: If we are strictly speaking about the current Andy Moor sound and productions, then I am quite disappointed. Why? Because he is capable of making much better and more qualified music. I'd venture a guess and say that many of the people in this thread who praise Andy to the highest extent, giving him 11/10 reviews and such, have never heard his older works. With tracks like Dark Amendments, Passenger, Athena, and Violent City I couldn't believe what I was hearing when I took a listen to Halcyon the other day. His older style just seems to have more quality as far as track substance, groove, and melodies are concerned. Halcyon and his newer stuff just seems to fluffy and overdone without any real substance to give the track a push forward. Not to mention the melodies sound like something a 12-year old could make on a Fisher Price or Casio keyboard/xylophone. I guess all the hardcore trancers and "McProg" listeners love this type of sound, but I find it completely cheesy, Nintendo sounding, and definitely forgettable. It's a damn shame too because Andy has the potential to create great music, but chooses instead to produce the sub-standard twinkly music that is all the rage right now. So, cheers to Andy Moor for making decent progressive house like the dirty and driving Dark Amendments and the grooving Passenger, but jeers to the newer stuff and his collaborations with Adamn White and Above & Beyond.

I totally agree.
all those kiddies just heard Whiteroom and Halcyon and were like "omfgzorz this Moor guy just roxorz arminz show!!!1"
then they never heard any of his old stuff which was much cooler, groundbreaking and funkier. And the stuff he made with Tilt as poor. You can really tell that Parks & Wilson miss Quivver.

And some of the kids in this thread are hilirous. The argument they use such as "if you dont like it, do it better yourself" is the most childish shit Ive read.
Do you ever see a movie director which get bad reviews telling the movie journalists to make a better movie themselves?

NO so just shut the fuck up with this 5 year old comments.
its amazing to see the ppl here who cant simply accept that there are ppl out there who finds their choice of music as shit.

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Originally posted by RebeL9 I totally agree. all those kiddies just heard Whiteroom and Halcyon and were like "omfgzorz this Moor guy just roxorz arminz show!!!1" then they never heard any of his old stuff which was much cooler, groundbreaking and funkier. And the stuff he made with Tilt as poor. You can really tell that Parks & Wilson miss Quivver. And some of the kids in this thread are hilirous. The argument they use such as "if you dont like it, do it better yourself" is the most childish shit Ive read. Do you ever see a movie director which get bad reviews telling the movie journalists to make a better movie themselves?

Yeah, it's like people don't go looking for better music. What kind of a limited attention span do you have, seriously? If there wasn't any better music, even I'd listen to all the crap trance that's released today. Thank god it isn't like that.

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Originally posted by RebeL9 I totally agree. all those kiddies just heard Whiteroom and Halcyon and were like "omfgzorz this Moor guy just roxorz arminz show!!!1" then they never heard any of his old stuff which was much cooler, groundbreaking and funkier. And the stuff he made with Tilt as poor. You can really tell that Parks & Wilson miss Quivver. And some of the kids in this thread are hilirous. The argument they use such as "if you dont like it, do it better yourself" is the most childish shit Ive read. Do you ever see a movie director which get bad reviews telling the movie journalists to make a better movie themselves? NO so just shut the fuck up with this 5 year old comments. its amazing to see the ppl here who cant simply accept that there are ppl out there who finds their choice of music as shit.

The MarathonMan endorses this statement!

Also the fact that he rates Oliver Lieb as well makes his opinion count more IMO!

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Originally posted by MarathonMan The MarathonMan endorses this statement! Also the fact that he rates Oliver Lieb as well makes his opinion count more IMO!

Oliver Lieb eats 10 Andy Moors for breakfast

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Originally posted by DJ Intrigue My 2 cents: If we are strictly speaking about the current Andy Moor sound and productions, then I am quite disappointed. Why? Because he is capable of making much better and more qualified music. I'd venture a guess and say that many of the people in this thread who praise Andy to the highest extent, giving him 11/10 reviews and such, have never heard his older works. With tracks like Dark Amendments, Passenger, Athena, and Violent City I couldn't believe what I was hearing when I took a listen to Halcyon the other day. His older style just seems to have more quality as far as track substance, groove, and melodies are concerned. Halcyon and his newer stuff just seems to fluffy and overdone without any real substance to give the track a push forward. Not to mention the melodies sound like something a 12-year old could make on a Fisher Price or Casio keyboard/xylophone. I guess all the hardcore trancers and "McProg" listeners love this type of sound, but I find it completely cheesy, Nintendo sounding, and definitely forgettable. It's a damn shame too because Andy has the potential to create great music, but chooses instead to produce the sub-standard twinkly music that is all the rage right now. So, cheers to Andy Moor for making decent progressive house like the dirty and driving Dark Amendments and the grooving Passenger, but jeers to the newer stuff and his collaborations with Adamn White and Above & Beyond.

Fantastic post, I completely agree with it on all counts. While I haven't heard much of Andy Moor's older stuff, his remix of Medway - Release for example, is a world away from all the twinkly garbage he's making today.

I'd say the same goes for Markus Schulz to a lesser extent. He is capable of making really good stuff, just listen to the Edge Factor productions from the mid 90's or his remix of Billy Paul Williams - So In Love then listen to any of his remixes from mid 2004 onwards.

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Originally posted by aloep Fantastic post, I completely agree with it on all counts. While I haven't heard much of Andy Moor's older stuff, his remix of Medway - Release for example, is a world away from all the twinkly garbage he's making today. I'd say the same goes for Markus Schulz to a lesser extent. He is capable of making really good stuff, just listen to the Edge Factor productions from the mid 90's or his remix of Billy Paul Williams - So In Love then listen to any of his remixes from mid 2004 onwards.

yeah you wouldnt be able to tell its the same Markus which made mindblowing remixes of Dream Traveler - Time and Kaistar - The Promethean Groove

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Originally posted by torontotrance listen to Mick Wilson talk about the difference between Andy Moor and Quivver http://www.tranceaddict.com/forums/...81031&forumid=1

So it's only Park Wilson and Andy Moore as Tilt now? That's a shame

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Originally posted by RebeL9 yeah you wouldnt be able to tell its the same Markus which made mindblowing remixes of Dream Traveler - Time

Indeed much better.

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Originally posted by RebeL9 I totally agree. all those kiddies just heard Whiteroom and Halcyon and were like "omfgzorz this Moor guy just roxorz arminz show!!!1" then they never heard any of his old stuff which was much cooler, groundbreaking and funkier. And the stuff he made with Tilt as poor. You can really tell that Parks & Wilson miss Quivver. And some of the kids in this thread are hilirous. The argument they use such as "if you dont like it, do it better yourself" is the most childish shit Ive read. Do you ever see a movie director which get bad reviews telling the movie journalists to make a better movie themselves? NO so just shut the fuck up with this 5 year old comments. its amazing to see the ppl here who cant simply accept that there are ppl out there who finds their choice of music as shit.

Christ, at least someone gets it. Nicely said.

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Originally posted by iammesol *officially boycotting this topic* sorry threadstarter

*agreed*

No fun when people don't respect each other's taste in music.

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Originally posted by Dinaire Force 1 Andy Moor is an incredibly talented producer those of you that hate on him and say hes crap, try making a record and see how you do

this is just taking the piss.

how many times do we have to explain how dumb is this argument?

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Originally posted by MarathonMan The MarathonMan endorses this statement!

Because referring to yourself in the third person is cool.

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Originally posted by Ory Yeah, it's like people don't go looking for better music. What kind of a limited attention span do you have, seriously? If there wasn't any better music, even I'd listen to all the crap trance that's released today. Thank god it isn't like that.

You have no idea how rediculous you sound.

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Originally posted by aloep Fantastic post, I completely agree with it on all counts. While I haven't heard much of Andy Moor's older stuff, his remix of Medway - Release for example, is a world away from all the twinkly garbage he's making today. I'd say the same goes for Markus Schulz to a lesser extent. He is capable of making really good stuff, just listen to the Edge Factor productions from the mid 90's or his remix of Billy Paul Williams - So In Love then listen to any of his remixes from mid 2004 onwards.

Yeah, I like his remix of Release too. I'll have to pull that out and listen to it again. It's interesting that you bring up Markus Schulz. He's probably number one on my shitlist at the moment, and as much as I don't want to, I'll give credit where credit is due and say that his song "Swirl" under his alias Dakota is pretty nice. I think that song came out in 1999 and was used on Digweed's original Bedrock compilation. I liked the song enough that I ended up buying the vinyl release. I remember searching eBay and finding the record sometime late last year during the whole Schulz explosion and was very, very suprised to see his name on the vinyl label when I opened the package. Also when I got the record, I honestly had a hard time believing he produced it and in a way, I still do considering the short audio clips I've happened to hear of the recent "First Time" and "Electro Hairspray".

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Originally posted by miamitranceman You have no idea how rediculous you sound.

And guess what? You listen to pop music, because you're too lazy to actually LOOK for new stuff to listen to. Poser.

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Originally posted by miamitranceman Because referring to yourself in the third person is cool.

Got it in one, maaaaaaaaaan!

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Originally posted by Ory And guess what? You listen to pop music, because you're too lazy to actually LOOK for new stuff to listen to. Poser.

Weak Ory, especially for you.

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Originally posted by miamitranceman Weak Ory, especially for you.

You don't have any arguments, so I win by default.

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Originally posted by Ory You don't have any arguments, so I win by default.

Everything's a competition to you, and that's the problem. Go listen to your oh-my-god-it-took-me-45hrs-to-find-this-track trance in peace, no one gives a shit.

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