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Originally posted by thesuperfunk It will have taken him about a week to do maximum ... most of the tracks have actually had very little done to them and are mixed in a very 'standard' way. As others have said, this is a massive step backwards from TPOD1.

so you've allready listened to it to know how he mixed it?

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Originally posted by Rockabye so you've allready listened to it to know how he mixed it?

No i made it all up.

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Originally posted by Rockabye so you've allready listened to it to know how he mixed it?

Am I missing a joke here? Yes he has. And I will second what he put too, very little effort has been put into this compared to TPOD 1.

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Originally posted by thesuperfunk It all sounds very rushed & cobbled together last minute.

ditto

prelisten here : http://www.nettwerk.com/cd.jsp?cd=4091

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Originally posted by Magistrate prelisten here : http://www.nettwerk.com/cd.jsp?cd=4091

great thank you mate

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someone need to fix the clips

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works better with newest real alternative version but still not perfect

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Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike very little effort has been put into this compared to TPOD 1.

So literally VERY little effort?

I don't think there'd be all this promotion and touring involved for a normal run-of-the-mill CD.

As a PvD fan, I'd expect you to go and buy this album, and THEN criiticse it.

Of course you're gonna say it's not as good as TPOD 1, but some other smart ass would say that TPOD 1 was not as good as his techno sets in the early 90s.

See the connection?

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Originally posted by _Ocean_Drive_ So literally VERY little effort?

Yes. Every track on TPOD 1 was reworked or re-edited in someway, on every transition you could actually hear the thought and detail put into it (especially cd 1), the playlist overall was just far superior, and the flow was brilliant. If you honestly think TPOD 2 rivals any of these points that TPOD 1 has to offer then you are a fucking idiot.

But that doesn't mean to say I don't like it. It's still better than I was expecting (admittedly my expectations were pretty low to begin with.)

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Originally posted by _Ocean_Drive_ As a PvD fan, I'd expect you to go and buy this album, and THEN criiticse it.

Was this implying that everything I have said was made without hearing it in full? I don't need to 'buy' it, I was sent a copy for free over a week ago, in which I then proceeded to listen and make my comments. Idiot.

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Originally posted by _Ocean_Drive_ I don't think there'd be all this promotion and touring involved for a normal run-of-the-mill CD.

And i'd also like to point out that there was just as much, if not more, promotion involved for his Reflections Album, and that wasn't even of a high enough standard to be considered a 'run-of-the-mill CD,' let alone something good. It was just plain shit.

I bought 'Reflections' and quite enjoyed it (cue: flame)

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Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike It was just plain shit.

Well that's the end of the discussion then.

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Originally posted by DJ Mikey Mike But that doesn't mean to say I don't like it. It's still better than I was expecting (admittedly my expectations were pretty low to begin with.)

so, it would be interesting to hear a review by you! you can leave the bad things out (which are obvious because they were already mentioned I guess) and concentrate on the better side of this cd. I'm just curious, because I don't thing it is thaaat bad.

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Originally posted by _Ocean_Drive_ Of course you're gonna say it's not as good as TPOD 1, but some other smart ass would say that TPOD 1 was not as good as his techno sets in the early 90s. See the connection?

Erm, no. Why would someone compare a liveset to a mix compilation brough out 10+ years later?

Facts are facts, it doesn't live upto the first one.

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Originally posted by thesuperfunk Erm, no. Why would someone compare a liveset to a mix compilation brough out 10+ years later? Facts are facts, it doesn't live upto the first one.

Erm, yes. Live or not is irrelavent to my point. I'm talking about purely the actual tracks themselves.

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Originally posted by _Ocean_Drive_ Erm, yes. Live or not is irrelavent to my point. I'm talking about purely the actual tracks themselves.

Then why mention it if it's irrelevant?

The tracks on TPOD1 (in production terms and general quality) are far superior to anything he was playing 10+ years earlier ... much like they're generally far superior to anything on TPOD2.

the fools are out in force in this thread, big time.

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Originally posted by _Ocean_Drive_ I don't think there'd be all this promotion and touring involved for a normal run-of-the-mill CD.

The promotion is going to be there because he is running a business and trying to sell cds and make money off shows just like any major artist.

That said, it is pretty obvious to me that he has lost the love for the music and what he is doing. His shows and productions have convinced me of that, not because i don't like what he is doing, but it just seems pretty obvious that he doesn't have the love that Tiesto or Armin does. I think he is just going through the motions to keep his career going. That is mostly just my own opinion and conjecture though.

i like out there and back. its such a well-thought-out album.

oops. wrong thread.

i think i'll wait till i hear the album for myself.

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Originally posted by _Ocean_Drive_ Of course you're gonna say it's not as good as TPOD 1, but some other smart ass would say that TPOD 1 was not as good as his techno sets in the early 90s.

i'm gonna be that smartass. if by any chance you or anyone else happen to own this cd:

http://www.discogs.com/release/11647

i'd be more than glad to swap it for my copy of TPOD1. i fucking love that MFS Trip cd, while TPOD1 is just ok at best.

haven't heard TPOD2, not interested in the slightest.

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Originally posted by RJOllos it just seems pretty obvious that he doesn't have the love that Tiesto or Armin does.

It was all going so well up until this point.

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Originally posted by RJOllos That said, it is pretty obvious to me that he has lost the love for the music and what he is doing. His shows and productions have convinced me of that, not because i don't like what he is doing, but it just seems pretty obvious that he doesn't have the love that Tiesto or Armin does. I think he is just going through the motions to keep his career going. That is mostly just my own opinion and conjecture though.

uhm...without hearing that CD I can tell you that even if Paul has lost a lot of love for the music he still has more love for it than Tiesto does. And I can tell you that this CD will be mixed much better than Tiestos ISOS 4.

And comparing livesets from Paul and Tiesto, Paul is still in front of Tiesto.

Yeah, all people chear for Tiesto...but why? Because he is #1 and not because of the tracks he play like the people cheer when Armin or Paul appear...

Please please plase don't compare Paul with Tiesto...Paul is not at his best at the moment and we all know that, but even a bad Paul is better than the current Tiesto...

Haha dont you love how all the PvD whores are all twisting and turning like the Tiesto whores when he was being criticized first to still talk their way out of liking him by criticizing other dj's.
Ignorant comments about one dj loving music more than another are pitiful at best.... just get over it
The dj's you once loved are getting beat in every single way by other/newer better dj's

And btw... listened to this a coupla days back and it was pretty damn disappointing... not that I expected something better from Paul... but well, you never know... This will be the last thing I will have checked from Paul for a very long time I bet

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Originally posted by Rockabye uhm...without hearing that CD I can tell you that even if Paul has lost a lot of love for the music he still has more love for it than Tiesto does. And I can tell you that this CD will be mixed much better than Tiestos ISOS 4. And comparing livesets from Paul and Tiesto, Paul is still in front of Tiesto. Yeah, all people chear for Tiesto...but why? Because he is #1 and not because of the tracks he play like the people cheer when Armin or Paul appear... Please please plase don't compare Paul with Tiesto...Paul is not at his best at the moment and we all know that, but even a bad Paul is better than the current Tiesto...

Paul has much better technical skills for sure. And ISOS was not mixed that well. In fact it has recently occured to me how much better Tiesto's mixing skills where even a few years ago. But Tiesto is alot better to his fans, that is part of the reason why people cheer for him, and he is a better entertainer. He is also a better producer in my opinion, but he certainly isn't a great dj for his technical skills. Your arguement doesn't make much sense though. People cheer for Tiesto becasue he is number 1 ? ... Or he is number 1 because everyone cheers for him?

any other opinions on this one? or does everyone think that this cd sucks?

My opinion is that I'm dying for a new cd, and I think that this one will do nicely....

That and if you like the music, then yay!

Otherwise, move on to the next cd.

Edit: I wouldn't mind finding a review for Timo Maas' new album. I just got that at my store today and am tempted to buy it.

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