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My dislike for trance bumper stickers and ringtones has alot to do with the way EDM is treated in America. Americans love EDM, but they just don't realize it. EDM is in the background of all our commercials, we hear it when we go to the mall and walk by the abercrombie, we hear it behind our tv shows, we hear it everywhere,
except on the radio and at the parties.
It really pisses me off that trance music and most other EDM is considered by most Americans as background music that is not to be paid attention to. Way too much talent is wasted making music that goes into the background of stuff that the typical person just ignores. When someone comes along who has one of those songs on the cd, kid will recognize it but not know where it came from, until somebody chimes in, "hey is that the song from the mitsubishi commercial with the stupid bitch in the pink hat squirming in the passenger seat?"
So my previous rant about eliminating tance from the selection of background material available to marketers was mainly because I think trance music deserves much better, it deserves to be in the places where people go when they want to listen to music and not behind commercials acting as some silly trendy sound that nobody will ever really appreciate. The general masses who see your bumper sticker or hear your ringtone don't deserve to be hearing the music if they are going to just treat it as background material, you should save your need to express yourself for the people who are willing to actually listen to EDM for the joy of it instead of using it as background material, or else your just gonna be the nerdy kid who listens to songs from behind commercials.
Anyway, I would make trance available only at places where people go for the purpose of listening to music, no more of this background music crap.
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| Originally posted by Abhay I agree, but to what point do u think it should go at???!?!? that's the question.... I think it should stay the way it is (to some extent), and just get BIG, WITHOUT all the commericalism coming into it... the only way i could think of doing that, would be to do what i said previously, in like, the first post of mine in this thread. |
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| Originally posted by sshyperion I agree with the idea and reality that it's a paradox to have trance "mainstream" and "Underground". I think it's a cycle-based thing running over the years. One genre takes the scene, bloats and creates a mix of both good and arguably bad artists (remember there's no such thing as a definite bad artist; everyone's personal preferences in trance artists and any music artist will be different in a genre), then the genre deflates and goes into a more dormant and/or "original" state, with changes to it that can't be ignored, for better or worse. Anyways back to the original line of question and away from the personal attacks: should I have the fate of Trance in my hands, I'd make it more mainstream than it is currently, to a certain point. Assuming that fate control could last for a while then I'd mainstream it for a few years then have it recess, giving the starting artists a taste for what happens out there when they become mainstream and hold their integrity in check accordingly and change accordingly. We can't always be bent on having trance styles stay a certain way 'cause music is not like that. It's about commonality but not absolute commonality; one can't see this until it goes mainstream and sees what happens. I know it's a bit vague but I can write on for pages. Let Trance ascend mainstream status and we'll take it accordingly, then have it recede and go back to a starting point and see how it goes.  |
i'd bring it back to being darker, northern exposure style 
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| Originally posted by feidias Ok very good points from all of u guys!But this one i think deserves a reply ,i think 1)Evolution is the key to everything!But trance would never stop evoluting if most good producers didn't leave somehow the trance scene!That type of trance we are talking it was just discontinued!The trance that exists today is something totally different which created a big flow of such trance tracks is not an evolution its a revolution to me(to a worse state of trance) 2)Liking m.i.k.e instead of Taucher ,Solar Stone instead of insigma is different tastes within trance indeed! But liking Ian Van Dahl instead of Airwave ,Lasgo instead of the (old good) tiesto is a differenet thing!Things are getting away,here we are not talking about tastes we are talking about liking something completely different,so some things I believe must get a red line.. 3)If u steer it to mainstream ,more and more 'non-relevant with the original trance'producers will enter the scene (due to the more "friendly" to the non-relevant people with original trance) hype it will have ,the perception to what is trance will change due to those producers basicly because of the new ppl those producers will bring to the so called "trance scene",some pure trance producers that still exist today will destroy theirselves to follow the "trend" other will stop other will go to other scenes and trance will transformed to just a name for a music with stupid pop melodies and "cool" electronica elements and things will get worse day by day and will have nothing relevant with what many of us here tend to name trance ...Of course other things will happen too some good some bad i am sure that u will analyse them back to me though I believe the loss of the good producers will harm trance to death Peace |
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| Originally posted by flavdave You consider the popularity of trance to be a "serious matter?" |
I would crush trance with a cement truck. Then bury it under the ocean in a block of concrete for 100 years. Then I would have it dug up and shot into space.
i can provide succour!!
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| Originally posted by Linden Flowers I would crush trance with a cement truck. Then bury it under the ocean in a block of concrete for 100 years. Then I would have it dug up and shot into space. |
ha
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| Originally posted by sshyperion *blinks* uuh right? |
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| Originally posted by Linden Flowers Yes, right. By the way, your avatar > * - Startrek owns. |
it's one of the stock avatars on here . I love Star Trek, TNG in particular but they're all good in the end . Too bad they didn't have Trance music on there. That'd really push Trance out to the trekkies and up the popularity.
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| Originally posted by sshyperion but they're all good in the end |
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| Originally posted by Linden Flowers Except that new Enterprise rubbish. |
Enterprise was alright once you got past the first season or two but yeah I wasn't too much of a fan of Scott Bakula. Ah well there are some good things about him that I can't think of right now but are there in his favour lol.
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| Originally posted by sshyperion Enterprise was alright once you got past the first season or two but yeah I wasn't too much of a fan of Scott Bakula. Ah well there are some good things about him that I can't think of right now but are there in his favour lol. |
TNG forever! ^_^. If in the next several years they create a new ST series they better put Trance music in there. That's another thing I'd do if I had the fate of Trance in my hands.
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| Originally posted by sshyperion TNG forever! ^_^. If in the next several years they create a new ST series they better put Trance music in there. That's another thing I'd do if I had the fate of Trance in my hands. |
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| Originally posted by sshyperion TNG forever! ^_^. If in the next several years they create a new ST series they better put Trance music in there. That's another thing I'd do if I had the fate of Trance in my hands. |
However I doubt there will be a new series for many years to come. There is a new movie in production, an Enterprise sort of thing...another prequel. :/
What would I change?
Instead of electronics and computers....
I'd devise crazy mechanical, electro-acoustic instruments that produce the lead, chord and rhythm sounds.
They could be taken apart, modified, retuned and reconstructed and would produce ever cooler sounds when you stick coat hangers, wads of kleenex, etc. in them. You'd plug them into a Marshall amp for distortion. Gold pipes would sound better than the plastic ones that are included with the kit, and fat stings would work for techno and thin ones for trance.
They'd be recorded with microphones onto 2-inch analog tape. Several microphones would pick up all the nuances in the room. Every producer would have a unique sound just by doing things the "wrong" way or by fluke.
forget the "if's" and "f's" there no fuckin' way a human being will ever be in control of the fate of trance.period.
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| Originally posted by DJFreaq God. What's horrible. You know someone has already done the "STAR TREK TECHNO REMIX SONG MUSIC.MP3" I GOT IT OFF KAZAA I'M AWESOME. I already made something lame like that. I'm sure you'll dig sshyperion.here you go. :P |
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| Originally posted by Fire999 forget the "if's" and "f's" there no fuckin' way a human being will ever be in control of the fate of trance.period. |
IMO, there's only 3 big "groups" left in the Trance-scene:
-Hardstyle
-BreakTrance
-Epic/pop (that includes Crazy Frog
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-Progressive Trance is dead 2 you tards, that has all changed into Progressive House by now.
-Psy seemed to be promising, but it's just too unlistenable to attrack large groups and inspire new producers enough.
-An attempt to bring back the ol' acid days would be unable due to the lack of interest of the 'anthem'-generation. Maybe it's possible to add more acid to the breaktrance-scene, though
There probably is NO suitable alternative to attrack the mainstraim effectively... Perhaps Trance is dead, to be continued into endless AXEL F-covers and the german cheese sound.
I'll give it one last chance on breaks
that's all fine and dandy but still doesn't really answer the thread's primary question: what would you do if you had the Fate of Trance in your hands? 'cause you know it's soooo nice to read about how we're all tards and that certain genres of trance are gone. 
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