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Posted by arnoldjch on Sep-02-2005 22:19:

quote:
Originally posted by PatMcGroin
well, i heard some shit a couple of days ago that they were gonna move some navy ship to the gulf coast so they can use it as a floating hospital, but it wasnt gonna start moving until sept 2 (today) and it wasnt gonna get there until the 7th. what the fuck is the point of that? my "planning" would include moving that ship or more BEFORE the storm hits so that it would actually arrive when needed, not 2 weeks after the fact.


Dude i got a plan... If i was the mayor of NO, and knowing that this shit was coming towards NO, i would have contacted many hospitals, telling them to have rooms ready for those that need medical attention, like the elderly and little kids, and also i would have suggested to many businesses(supermarkets) to have back up food for the people. but the problem here was diff, this hurricane basically destroyed the area, its like you cant do nothing about it, there is nothing to do but to aide the people, and restore order. Also i would have suggested to the peep in NO to be forced out of the state, very hard to do. eventhough some peep did leave but it wasnt enough, i think that the NO underestimated the hurricane.


Posted by PatMcGroin on Sep-02-2005 22:20:

quote:
Originally posted by arnoldjch
Dude i got a plan... If i was the mayor of NO, and knowing that this shit was coming towards NO, i would have contacted many hospitals, telling them to have rooms ready for those that need medical attention, like the elderly and little kids, and also i would have suggested to many businesses(supermarkets) to have back up food for the people. but the problem here was diff, this hurricane basically destroyed the area, its like you cant do nothing about it, there is nothing to do but to aide the people, and restore order. Also i would have suggested to the peep in NO to be forced out of the state, very hard to do. eventhough some peep did leave but it wasnt enough, i think that the NO underestimated the hurricane.


not even gonna read what you said, just responding to tell you i didnt read it.


Posted by DarkAngel on Sep-02-2005 22:22:

Thumbs up

quote:
Originally posted by PatMcGroin
not even gonna read what you said, just responding to tell you i didnt read it.



LMFAO


Posted by nchs09 on Sep-02-2005 22:23:

quote:
Originally posted by PatMcGroin
not even gonna read what you said, just responding to tell you i didnt read it.
u didnt miss much

i read it


Posted by rhaney on Sep-02-2005 22:24:

quote:
Originally posted by PatMcGroin
oh yeah, lemme listen to someone i've never met before.

it was in my post, but i deleted it cuz it was too drawn out, but if you want my reasons here you go...

i'm only 22, its kinda hard for me to just up and move right now. my mom wanted to move from germany to here when she was very young, but she couldnt until she was almost 30. it takes time asshole. you have to get A LOT of shit together to leave. you cant just pack your bags and go.

so what my plan is, is to use this country for the only thing its good for (money) and then leave once i got all my shit together.

europe > usa. any fucking day.


HAHAHAAHAHAHAHA - OKAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY. That explains your dumb fucking politics comments.


Posted by arnoldjch on Sep-02-2005 22:25:

quote:
Originally posted by PatMcGroin
so what my plan is, is to use this country for the only thing its good for (money) and then leave once i got all my shit together.

europe > usa. any fucking day.


Why do we suck man? Well i understand that you are taking advantage of what this country has to offer. Well man since your from Germany you like it better, but to say that we suck.... well idk about that we are having problems thats all, but hey we arent fukin perfect. When you say Europe>USA, do you mean politically,economically, culture wise? Well if its politically and econo, i dont think so, like Germanys economy is shit right now, you have to acknowledge that man? and its also having some political wars, lets acknowledge that. Okay now dont fuckin think im obsses with this country, i just like how it was established and shit, and if i dont like what these dumb politicians are doing i always want to have a voice. my 2cents


Posted by PatMcGroin on Sep-02-2005 22:28:

quote:
Originally posted by rhaney
HAHAHAAHAHAHAHA - OKAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY. That explains your bonehead comments.


get a fucking life dude. we all have our own opinions. we all have our own morals by which we live. and you're a fucking...let me say this really big so your redneck ass can understand it... TOOL for not respecting other peoples wishes.

you're actually one of the exact reasons i hate this country so much. you FORCE your opinions and views on other people and then call them "boneheads" when they disagree with you.

in europe they actually accept people for being different, here you're crusified if you think differently.


Posted by Mattivi on Sep-02-2005 22:29:

quote:
Originally posted by FallingMoon
sure fucking took long don't ya think?

"Four days after Hurricane Katrina struck, the National Guard arrived in force Friday with food, water and weapons, rolling through the floodwaters in a vast truck convoy."

Let me add, cuz this is a topic many people don't recognize...the reason we're getting such bad storms and they keep coming like bullets is because of global warming WHICH Bush hasn't addressed as an issue AND if he has...he's doing nothing else about it.


not defending bush...but GLOBAL WARMING IS A GLOBAL ISSUE, not solely a US issue, bush isnt the only one being indifferent to this GLOBALLY enigmatic issue.
on a side note i think moore makes some valid points, but they get lost in a litany of mindless hyperbole and slanderous inferences. if he came off less sardonic and with more tact and political polish, people might be more apt to take him seriously instead of a overzealous liberal.


Posted by arnoldjch on Sep-02-2005 22:36:

quote:
Originally posted by PatMcGroin

you're actually one of the exact reasons i hate this country so much. you FORCE your opinions and views on other people and then call them "boneheads" when they disagree with you.

in europe they actually accept people for being different, here you're crusified if you think differently.


I dont want to get in your bis with that guy. but i will suggest when making a point onyour point of view, to support them with examples and facts, for example the U.S suks?what are those reasons get me? you are just talking and not bakin up your points


Posted by arnoldjch on Sep-02-2005 22:37:

Thumbs up

quote:
Originally posted by Mattivi
not defending bush...but GLOBAL WARMING IS A GLOBAL ISSUE,


true but Bush aint going to do anything about it, he is into other things, supporting companies that contaminate our hemisphere and crap


Posted by PatMcGroin on Sep-02-2005 22:38:

quote:
Originally posted by arnoldjch
I dont want to get in your bis with that guy. but i will suggest when making a point onyour point of view, to support them with examples and facts, for example the U.S suks?what are those reasons get me? you are just talking and not bakin up your points


i dont need to back anything up. unlike some people in this thread, i'm not trying to force my opinions on anyone. i'm simply stating what i feel, not telling people they are wrong.


Posted by PatMcGroin on Sep-02-2005 22:41:

Satan (eek!) BRAND NEW NEWS UPDATE FOR YOU ALL...

THIS THREAD IS GAY

*insert one of koky's photochops here*

p.s. i'm done with this thread (again). say what you want, insult me, my mother, i dont care. i'm out.


Posted by nchs09 on Sep-02-2005 22:42:

Re: BRAND NEW NEWS UPDATE FOR YOU ALL...

quote:
Originally posted by PatMcGroin
THIS THREAD IS GAY

*insert one of koky's photochops here*

p.s. i'm done with this thread (again). say what you want, insult me, my mother, i dont care. i'm out.
your mom is over!


Posted by PatMcGroin on Sep-02-2005 22:46:

Re: Re: BRAND NEW NEWS UPDATE FOR YOU ALL...

quote:
Originally posted by nchs09
your mom is over!






i only make that exception for you mario








Posted by DarkAngel on Sep-02-2005 22:46:

Thumbs up

quote:
Originally posted by PatMcGroin
THIS THREAD IS GAY

*insert one of koky's photochops here*

p.s. i'm done with this thread (again). say what you want, insult me, my mother, i dont care. i'm out.


Agreed, dude. And I couldn't find any of his chops, so I had to settle for using this.


Posted by Mattivi on Sep-02-2005 22:49:

quote:
Originally posted by gerrycueto
nope... that's when national security is at stake... in that case the federal government NEEDS to focus their attention on that, but this case with the hurricane. Yes, Bush would be a fucking cockbag to ignore it, but it's mostly up to the government of Louisiana to keep its area safe from storms.



did the point that louisianna is one of the poorest states in the union pass you by? they dont have the money, thats why they were depending on federal money to subsidize the levees, which he in turn cut to reallocate to iraq. just goes to show ya that past actions have dire consequences, they just arent immediately forseable.
prolonged war in iraq> bush cuts federal aid to lousianna in favor for iraq>katrinna hits coasts>louisianna cant withstain flood waters because of inadequate levee and dikes infrastructure> catastrophe.


Posted by PCP2017 on Sep-02-2005 22:50:

cnn.com

"In the Netherlands, much of which lies below sea level as in New Orleans, there was some consternation that the Louisiana city was so poorly prepared, AP reported.

The nation installed massive hydraulic sea walls known as the Delta Works after devastating floods in 1953.

"I don't want to sound overly critical, but it's hard to imagine that the damage caused by Katrina could happen in a Western country," Ted Sluijter, press spokesman for Neeltje Jans, the public park where the Delta Works are exhibited, was reported as saying by AP.

"It seemed like plans for protection and evacuation weren't really in place, and once it happened, the coordination" was poor."

They can put a man on the moon, but don't know how to handle a storm!?
haha, what a jip!


Posted by rhaney on Sep-02-2005 23:16:

quote:
Originally posted by PatMcGroin
get a fucking life dude. we all have our own opinions. we all have our own morals by which we live. and you're a fucking...let me say this really big so your redneck ass can understand it... TOOL for not respecting other peoples wishes.

you're actually one of the exact reasons i hate this country so much. you FORCE your opinions and views on other people and then call them "boneheads" when they disagree with you.

in europe they actually accept people for being different, here you're crusified if you think differently.


chill out dude.

you just talk shit without backing up your comments. Everything is either GAY and SUCKS to you... dont be so sensative... its only a message board about opinions. Im not forcing shit on you.


Posted by glittergirl on Sep-02-2005 23:32:

just saw the mayor of NO talking on tv... and he's really fucking pissed about the relief efforts. i have been following this story as much as i possibly can with the little time i have to spend at home, but i didnt really understand how slow the relief efforts were til i heard him basically yelling about it.

it doesnt even seem right to place blame anywhere anymore. its such a tragedy, and i cant even watch the tv without being so sad for those people. that feeling totally surpasses any anger i could have for the govt, or for whoever. we ALL need to help, not just the govt. even if a billion people gave just one dollar, that is still a billion dollars.


Posted by FallingMoon on Sep-02-2005 23:54:

Closing party.

for the right wingers, left wingers & all those in between.

COUP...I beg!


Posted by ex-dj on Sep-03-2005 00:23:

quote:
Originally posted by The Peach
i blame mother nature, that bitch!

mother nature is definately on the rag lately...


Posted by XxGrOoVeERICxX on Sep-03-2005 00:41:

Wow! Damn it Renzo, what did you start by posting this here?


Anyway, I tried to read all of this and I have so many things to say and respond to some comments made....
























But I won't! I think everything that could be said has been said in one way or another. This is turning into a war, and we know we don't need anymore wars. So everyone STFU, roll up a blunt, bring out the peace pipe, smoke it, and be happy you are alive and well!


It's a tragedy with what happen with the hurricane. My heart goes out to all those affected.


Posted by ex-dj on Sep-03-2005 00:48:

quote:
Originally posted by Mattivi
not defending bush...but GLOBAL WARMING IS A GLOBAL ISSUE, not solely a US issue, bush isnt the only one being indifferent to this GLOBALLY enigmatic issue.
on a side note i think moore makes some valid points, but they get lost in a litany of mindless hyperbole and slanderous inferences. if he came off less sardonic and with more tact and political polish, people might be more apt to take him seriously instead of a overzealous liberal.

well put, Moore actually had some facts and points but his phrasing just makes him come off like a joker. i don't like him or Bush, they're both douschebags.


Posted by NateF on Sep-03-2005 03:45:

Obviously you all care enough to get somthing done. It would be a shame to waste this emotion on simply hating each other....thats what hip-hop is for (seriously).

I and my colleagues have tried (see dance4relief.org) to extract the goodness out of what I believe to be a loving people, the supporters of electronica. Dont make a fool out of me, please.

However, it cant be more obvious that many here do not recognize the magnitude of what has happened. If that were the case, this argument would be put into perspective as a trifle.

Blue ones-


Posted by trancebrat on Sep-03-2005 06:28:

Confused

What exactly were you guys trying to accomplish in this thread?


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