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Posted by solgrabber on Dec-11-2005 12:49:

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Swamper, please close this thread, for I do not know what else needs to be said, posted, and quoted in order to prove these idiots wrong. It's one thing when you argue and the people you're arguing with actually read your proofs and try and refute them. it's quite another when they treat every single one of your posts as a blank.


nothing you or others post will covince us otherwise, if you have not noticed this is the "conspiracy thred" genius.

the point is to look beyond what you post as "facts" and start asking why they are so inconsistent when you start actually applying them to what happened.

nearly half of new york believe the government had prior knowledge of the attacks but we should close the thread because you posted some white papers explaining what temperature steel melts at. give me a break.


Posted by DigiNut on Dec-11-2005 16:07:

quote:
Originally posted by solgrabber
nothing you or others post will covince us otherwise, if you have not noticed this is the "conspiracy thred" genius.

Okay, well essentially you just proved to us that you are in fact retarded. If NOTHING that ANYONE says can convince you otherwise then it means you have no objectivity whatsoever, and that it's impossible for anyone to have an intelligent debate (or even a polite conversation) with you.

Believe me, I say this out of pity and concern, not anger or frustration: if you truly believe everything that you've said in here, you have a psychiatric condition. Seek professional help - you clearly need it.


Posted by solgrabber on Dec-12-2005 01:47:

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Okay, well essentially you just proved to us that you are in fact retarded. If NOTHING that ANYONE says can convince you otherwise then it means you have no objectivity whatsoever, and that it's impossible for anyone to have an intelligent debate (or even a polite conversation) with you.



yes i am objective digi, this is why i believe what i do and you will not covince me otherwise. i stood by the tv for pratically a week straight after hearing what took place on howard sterns radio show that awful morning like many others. for the most part i felt the anger that most felt and wanted to go to war with anyone or anything that had to do with what took place.

i remember sitting with a family member who grew up through world war 2 and was subjected through things most never have to as a child. she simply turned to me and said "what do you think about this?" (we were watching cnn). from that point on i understood exactly what she meant and through the next while i felt uneased and wanted more so i started to look for answers myself which leads me to what i believe now.

its very typical of modern day society to point to so called facts and discredit and ridicule people who actually use their own mind to think for themselves. this is something you cannot seem to comprehend and for this i truly feel sorry for you.

if you or others want the thread closed or me to leave it clearly shows you cannot handle the subject at hand. people who respond to matters using vulgar language and ridiculing people because of their beliefs are usually the ones who are insecure of themselves. you lost total credilbility from me from the start when you attacked people this way so maybe you should leave, there is no time and place for people like you in this forum and this world.

peace.


Posted by hardcore trancer on Dec-12-2005 08:07:

quote:
Originally posted by solgrabber
yes i am objective digi, this is why i believe what i do and you will not covince me otherwise. i stood by the tv for pratically a week straight after hearing what took place on howard sterns radio show that awful morning like many others. for the most part i felt the anger that most felt and wanted to go to war with anyone or anything that had to do with what took place.

i remember sitting with a family member who grew up through world war 2 and was subjected through things most never have to as a child. she simply turned to me and said "what do you think about this?" (we were watching cnn). from that point on i understood exactly what she meant and through the next while i felt uneased and wanted more so i started to look for answers myself which leads me to what i believe now.

its very typical of modern day society to point to so called facts and discredit and ridicule people who actually use their own mind to think for themselves. this is something you cannot seem to comprehend and for this i truly feel sorry for you.

if you or others want the thread closed or me to leave it clearly shows you cannot handle the subject at hand. people who respond to matters using vulgar language and ridiculing people because of their beliefs are usually the ones who are insecure of themselves. you lost total credilbility from me from the start when you attacked people this way so maybe you should leave, there is no time and place for people like you in this forum and this world.

peace.




Fuck Digi and his bullshit.Dont let him get into you.Believe what you believe.There are alot of people who think 911 was complete bullshit made up by the government.Iam glad there are people like you out there who have a mind of their own and dont let media tells them whats right and wrong.

so I say leave this thread open and please stay the fuck out if you dont like it,very simple.


Posted by l]evil on Dec-16-2005 18:06:

The Reichstag building, seat of the German government, burns after being set on fire by Nazis, February 27, 1933. This enabled Adolf Hitler to seize power under the pretext of protecting the nation from threats to its security.

This incident prompted Hitler to convince Hindenburg to issue a Decree for the Protection of People and State that granted Nazis sweeping power to deal with the so-called emergency. This laid the foundation for a police state.




lol srry for bumping old topic, but i had to post this.

when history repeats itself do we notice?

please stop flaming, no one will know the truth, it is senseless to fight about it. all you can do is read and take in all the information you can and make a reasonable opinion.


Posted by neuromancer on Jan-19-2006 18:41:

to add fuel to the fire :

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did not checked if this was posted already, excuse me if it was.


Posted by Dj Smitty20 on Jan-19-2006 23:23:

jesus christ.

I mean come on people.....there was definitely more going on there than we know.


Posted by Cosmic Fur on May-16-2006 16:33:

I'm reviving this thread because of the following news:

http://www.judicialwatch.org/5772.shtml

quote:

Department of Defense Responds to Judicial Watch Freedom of Information Act Request and Related Lawsuit

(Washington, DC) Judicial Watch, the public interest group that investigates and prosecutes government corruption, announced today that Department of Defense will release a videotape to Judicial Watch at 1:00 p.m. this afternoon that allegedly shows American Airlines Flight 77 striking the Pentagon on September 11, 2001. The Department of Defense is releasing the videotape in response to a Judicial Watch Freedom of Information Act request and related lawsuit.


so in 30 minutes the conspiracy theorists around the world will feel the cold, fresh, slap of truth to their face. And then procede to recoil with even more conspiracy theories.


Posted by simms327 on May-16-2006 17:42:

yes i saw this and im curious

however, a video, of the kind of quality we are going to liekly see, could EASILY be fabricated in 4+ years... why the delay?


Posted by neuromancer on May-16-2006 23:29:

quote:
Originally posted by Cosmic Fur
I'm reviving this thread because of the following news:

http://www.judicialwatch.org/5772.shtml



so in 30 minutes the conspiracy theorists around the world will feel the cold, fresh, slap of truth to their face. And then procede to recoil with even more conspiracy theories.


i'm sure they can even show a video of bin laden on a flying saucer hovering over the white house. it wouldn't surprise me. whats the point ?


Posted by solgrabber on May-16-2006 23:43:

well they sent in the same video that they showed the public years ago. the one with the incorrect date stamp on it and no plane actually hitting the pentagon.

two conclusions can be drawn from this.

1) The government truly is frightened to death of releasing any images which accurately depict what happened at the Pentagon because it doesn't jive with the official version of 9/11.

2) Or the government knows that Flight 77 hit the Pentagon and has clear footage of the incident, but is deliberately releasing these speculative images in order to stoke the debate so it can later release the high quality video and use it to debunk the entire 9/11 truth movement.


Posted by Orko on May-17-2006 00:14:

quote:
Originally posted by Cosmic Fur
I'm reviving this thread because of the following news:

http://www.judicialwatch.org/5772.shtml



so in 30 minutes the conspiracy theorists around the world will feel the cold, fresh, slap of truth to their face. And then procede to recoil with even more conspiracy theories.



Haha, have you seen the video? its old!

If you have seen "Loose Change 2nd Edition" then you have seen the video already, except that this 'new' one is even worse.

A few choppy frames will not prove anything.


Posted by KaiLee on May-17-2006 00:41:

quote:
Originally posted by Mag1k
Who cares. We will never know the truth, US is based on lies and deception. If you think this is the first or the last case of the American government deceiving their people, you deserve a slap.


US GOVERNMENT is based on lies and deception


Posted by solgrabber on May-17-2006 01:19:

why does the mass media continue to hide from the real facts on 9/11?

watch and decide for yourself.

ftp://911busters.com/Prof._Steven_J...son_256Kbps.wmv

i tend to agree tucker is on the payroll.


Posted by Cosmic Fur on May-17-2006 01:47:

This thread reminded me of how much I miss Diginut's coherent posts. Where did he go?


Posted by 7-4-7 on May-17-2006 01:49:

quote:
Originally posted by Mag1k
Who cares. We will never know the truth, US is based on lies and deception. If you think this is the first or the last case of the American government deceiving their people, you deserve a slap.


No offense, but saying "who cares"....deserves a slap....alot ALOOOOOOOT of people have been lied to.


Posted by VERTiG0 on May-17-2006 01:52:

quote:
Originally posted by 7-4-7
alot ALOOOOOOOT of people have been lied to.


And those people will never get a truthful answer, either, I'm sure.

IT WAS FUCKING WEATHER BALLOONS GUYS WE SWEAR IT

NO WAIT IT WAS SWAMP GAS

OH FUCK IT LETS TELL THEM IT WAS WEATHER BALLOONS FILLED WITH SWAMP GAS BUT THEY CAME FROM IRAQ AND THE SWAMP GAS ORIGINATED IN AND WAS TRAINED IN AFGHANISTAN


Posted by 7-4-7 on May-17-2006 01:53:

quote:
Originally posted by Cosmic Fur
I'm reviving this thread because of the following news:

http://www.judicialwatch.org/5772.shtml



so in 30 minutes the conspiracy theorists around the world will feel the cold, fresh, slap of truth to their face. And then procede to recoil with even more conspiracy theories.


umm where is the plane?


Posted by VERTiG0 on May-17-2006 01:55:

quote:
Originally posted by 7-4-7
umm where is the plane?


Also, your forum name is eerily appropriate here.


Posted by 7-4-7 on May-17-2006 01:56:

quote:
Originally posted by VERTiG0
And those people will never get a truthful answer, either, I'm sure.


I am glad that is good enough.


yeah my name has nothing to do with a plane or a model of a plane. But ironic nonethless.


Posted by Adamo on May-17-2006 02:12:

so they were suppossed to release 3 videos of the crash in different locations but all i've seen on the news is the old one thats in the conspiracy documentary. eeeeeeeeeeeeeee!


Posted by solgrabber on May-17-2006 10:51:

Below is the Video Evidence that will bring them down.

9/11 Eyewitness Documentary

http://www.torrentspy.com/torrent/726436/


It's really easy to see why the "media" offered the film maker $500,000 for this video at the time after watching this myself.

This is video and audio proof the two towers along with world trade center seven were brought down using EXPLOSIVES. There is no denying it because this video captures the siesmic audio of the explosives as they go off in all the buildings.

I urge everyone to download this torrent and watch it. You will be in shock by the basic science they used to prove the official story completly wrong.

Cosmicfur while you brought the thread back please find Diginut or who ever else you want (maybe your physics professor). Watch this video and come back here and lets debate it. (like adults)

I want to see you or anyone explain how all the buildings came down faster then gravity speeds that aweful day. No slinging matches if you choose to accept this, lets just use independent science.

This coming 9/11 2006 lets demolish the lies and deception once and for all. Spread the truth and pass this video to everyone you know, be the voice for the innocent 3000 people that died that day.

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Thank you.


Posted by mushyflowa on May-17-2006 12:52:

quote:
Originally posted by Mag1k
Who cares. We will never know the truth, US is based on lies and deception. If you think this is the first or the last case of the American government deceiving their people, you deserve a slap.



Posted by Cosmic Fur on May-17-2006 12:57:

I'm too sick of all the talk of 9/11 and the conspiracy theories to try to debate the issue again. Suppose you are right (I haven't actually watched the vid) and explosives were used, even then, you will accomplish nothing. The government will never admit it, and there will always be a large majority of people believing the official story because they believe the government has their best interest in mind (Ha!), much larger than the people not believing it. Sure, you might get some to jump to your side, but that number is marginal. So really, what is the point here?

Everyone and their mothers knew that there were no WMDs in Iraq, and that didn't stop the Bush Administration from saying there were, and acting based on that assumption. Every government lies. The Liberal government in Canada lied, the Clinton gov't lied, the Conservatives in power right now are in progress of making lies, the governments over in Africa lie, the governmemnt in Russia has been lying ever since the revolution, etc etc etc. Politics itself is based on deception, misrepresentation, and outright lies.

I myself don't know who to believe anymore, but I do know that regardless of who I believe, it will not change anything at all.


Posted by ChocolateTrance on May-17-2006 13:42:

hahahaha.. i can't believe that this thread has resurfaced!...i had so much fun reading it..

this debate can go on forever and will take you guys no further than where you originally started.. cosmic is right... give up already!

where is diginut by the way? i haven't seen him post lately


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